if you have to ask, you're prolly too stoopid to understand the answer...
Posted on 12/11/2011 5:35:03 PM PST by NeinNeinNein
OK, this is not a flame thread. I'm genuinely curious why conservatives think Communism is so evil.
I am a Communist. I am also a God-fearing Christian, a tax-paying and loyal American, and a generally nice guy. Communism was perverted by third world despots and was never implemented fully in its true form.
Communism is about cooperation and good will. And it's important to note that economic success and cooperation are not mutally exclusive. In fact, I would argue greater cooperation among individuals leads to more prosperity and more overall happiness.
This one’s a HOF’er!
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...at the point of a gun.
OK. I’ll bite.
I like choices. I like to make them.
I also like thinking $#it up. All kinds of stuff, ideas, thoughts.... I like being able to choose whether to pursue them, give them away, protect them for me, etc.
I do NOT like being told what to do. By anyone. I recognize that courtesy and civility is a question of developed ways of behaving so people don’t beat the living crap out of each other. So, I am ordinarily courteous and civil.
Furthermore, I do not like other people being nosy. Ever. About me. I will tell you what I want, when I want, and that’s that. This also applies to me. You keep your distance, and I’ll keep mine.
The assumption that people will be given, each to his ability and need, is patently absurd for me. I don’t want anyone to give me anything. I’ll fend for myself, and I expect others to do so, too. The ‘givenors’ are described as vague, control-happy busybodies who use the guise of The State to ride their power trip in telling and allotting. It’s none of their business.
Oddly enough, conservatives like putting their boots on one-at-a-time, without anyone thinking they should TELL a person to do so.
Ultimately, free will is so much more difficult than living life will-free that apparently, someone came up with an idea of total blurring of everyone’s stuff, money, talents and entire beings that makes everyone as gray as Mao suits. How blah is that kind of life, anyway?
Don’t you understand ruggedness? Don’t you understand how important it is to learn and do and think about stuff? Do you not value your own mind and spirit?
Communism is about the forceful seizure of private property. There is no freewill invovled, unlike in Christianity where one gives freely to others in need. I am also willing to bet that you do not give up everything you do not need to help out those who have less than you, which would make you part of the bourgeiosie.
Communism is about cooperation? It would work, if the masses would cooperate with the few at the top, community organizing us into the zombie servants of the warped vision of the “vanguard class.” Because most have not wanted to submit to it in the past, scores of millions have been murdered. How bout you pursuing your own dream, and leaving the rest of us to go after what we want? The Soviets were able to put the empire in place by force; That will NEVER happen here. So give it up loser.
Why do I perceive Satan is evil? Because it just is.
Communism does nothing but enslave people everywhere it is tried.
You might be happier in Communist North Korea.
Any questions?
“And communists throughout history have been making that same excuse all along.”
The only problem with Capitalism is that there tends to be unequal distribution of wealth.
Far from being a better system, Communism ensures that there is equal distribution of misery.
If communism is so great why have people risked their lives to escape it?
Communists create the worse places in the world to live.
Proverbs 23:9 “Speak not for the fool’s hearing; he will despise the wisdom of your words.”
Your response was my first thought: "You've got to be kidding!" I also forgot to ping the mod.
The communists believe they have found the path to deliverance from our evils. According to them, man is wholly good and is well-disposed to his neighbour; but the institution of private property has corrupted his nature. The ownership of private wealth gives the individual power, and with it the temptation to ill-treat his neighbour; while the man who is excluded from possession is bound to rebel against his oppressor. If private property were abolished, all wealth held in common, and everyone allowed to share in the enjoyment of it, ill-will and hostility would disappear among men. Since everyone's needs would be satisfied, no one would have any reason to regard another as his enemy; all would willingly undertake the work that was necessary. I have no concern with any economic criticisms of the communist system; I cannot enquire whether the abolition of private property is expedient or advantageous. But I am able to recognize that the psychological premisses on which the system is based are an untenable illusion.
Freud - Civilization and Its Discontents
Sure looks like a flame thread. Saying it isn’t doesn’t make it not one.
You might want to consider studying both Communism and Christianity and than pick one. One sells your soul, the other saves it.
Think about why third world despots choose Communism.
Communism is about coercion, they just like to call it cooperation.
Communism is about ill will. Making everybody equal does nobody good.
Nothing has ever failed economically like Communism.
Greater cooperation among individuals does lead to economic success, hence the free market.
Happiness in Communist society is typically found in a bottle.
You can get answers here on FR, but you won’t be convinced of truth until you read the Bible, study history, and come to conclusions by sound thinking.
I only give you this input because I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt thinking you are being honest with your questions. It seems more likely to me you are just trolling for FR handles of any people who are anti-liberal/communist/progressive/or whatever you want to call it.
“In fact, I would argue greater cooperation among individuals leads to more prosperity and more overall happiness.”
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Yea, really great when the leaders say you can check in, but you can never check-out.
Perhaps you should go to Slovakia and stand on the bank of
the Danube, overlooking Austria.
There is a monument to the dozens that were shot while trying to swim to the free side.
The building with three gun ramps on the roof is still there.
Communism is government by despots.
A person can willing give all they of themselves to other... that free will.... it requires no government...but if you use force to take it
It not what you give ...its what you take by force...you demand all
To each according to their ability to each according to their needs?...who decides?...a slave has someone one decides their ability and their needs and has it imposed on them every day
A free man is one that decides for himself and accept the responsibility of that freedom
if you have to ask, you're prolly too stoopid to understand the answer...
Hi Nein,
I understand the fantasy of communism, where we’re all in it together and raising up the weak. But that is a fantasy.
In reality, those who choose not to be productive act as anchors for the productive and, when there are enough unproductive people, it destroys society.
Every communistic society has ended up destroying itself at some point, because it goes contraire to the human nature that God has endowed man with.
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