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‘We can do wonders if we get them early’: young twin boy undergoes sex change into ‘Nicole’
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/we-can-do-wonders-if-we-get-them-early-young-twin-boy-undergoes-sex-change ^ | 12/14/2011 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 12/14/2011 3:55:42 PM PST by Morgana

BOSTON, December 14, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A front-page story on the Boston Globe’s Sunday edition highlighted the work of a prestigious Massachusetts hospital which blocked and altered the development of one young boy’s body to match his self-identification as a girl.

Wyatt Maines, now 14 years old, is the identical twin of brother Jonas - but thanks to powerful hormone blocking drugs, he is now five inches shorter and several pounds lighter than Jonas, sports more feminine features, and goes by the name “Nicole.” “The thought of being a boy makes me cringe,’’ said Maines. “I just couldn’t do it.’’

Soon, Maines plans to begin taking estrogen to develop hips and grow breasts, an irreversible change that will cause permanent sterility. The last stage - what the Globe calls Maines’ “final step on her journey to womanhood” - will be surgery to remove Maines’ penis and create a vagina-like structure.

The Maines family said they opted for the treatment to remedy young Wyatt’s gender identity disorder (GID), recognized as a psychiatric condition by the American Psychiatric Association. The APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual states that only a very small number of children with GID maintain the symptoms into later adolescence or adulthood.

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1 posted on 12/14/2011 3:55:49 PM PST by Morgana
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2 posted on 12/14/2011 3:59:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Morgana

Criminal abuse of a minor. I guess we now see what kind of parents this “Brave New (secular) World” of political correctness has created. Parents should be imprisoned for child abuse, the doctors stripped of their right to practice medicine anywhere in America.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 4:01:16 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Morgana
“The thought of being a boy makes me cringe,’’ said Maines. “I just couldn’t do it.’’

better to do expensive, life-altering surgery now, than wait and see if he grows out of it. (sarcasm off)

4 posted on 12/14/2011 4:03:44 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: Morgana

Pure child abuse. The parents are disgusting.


5 posted on 12/14/2011 4:07:27 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny ("Fair share" are the last two words I hear before I stop taking someone seriously.)
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To: Morgana

Mengele-level evil.

Where is the outrage from the American people?

Shoot, where is the outrage from Christians?


7 posted on 12/14/2011 4:20:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Morgana
“We can do wonders if we can get them early,” he said.

Do you mean, while they are still young enough to fall for your lies?

I realize I never had a son,’’ he said

Wrong! You did have a son... and you still do!

to perform such changes on a gender-confused individual was to “cooperate with a mental illness rather than try to cure it.”

Exactly!

attempts to change Wyatt’s body was only a temporary fix that didn’t have the child’s best interests in mind

Right, it is child abuse!

“Is this the best we can do?”

No, it isn't!

8 posted on 12/14/2011 4:22:32 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: EternalVigilance

Outrage from Christians?

What Christians?

Outside of Free Republic they all tell me they are liberals.

How can you be Christian and liberal?


9 posted on 12/14/2011 4:25:50 PM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: wagglebee; Morgana
Even the medical establishment says this:

The APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual states that only a very small number of children with GID maintain the symptoms into later adolescence or adulthood.

And the John Hopkins Hospital won't do sex change or as they are now called "gender reassignment" surgeries any more as the cater to the mentally ill and do not help the person's condition at all. Or the reverse, make it worse. It should be a felony to do this to a child.

10 posted on 12/14/2011 4:28:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
It should be a felony to do this to a child.

It should be a capital crime.

11 posted on 12/14/2011 4:30:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Morgana

God is not mocked. They will reap what they sow, in permanent physical damage & as well as psychological & emotional & spiritual damage. This sick BOY and his equally sick parents will pay for eternity as they roast in Hell and the Lake of Fire.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 4:32:24 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: EternalVigilance

“Mengele-level evil.”

And they are proud.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 4:42:45 PM PST by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: little jeremiah

What kind of psychological imprinting (abuse) did the parents do to this poor child in order to produce their “girl”? Horrid.

Remember the terrible/infamous case many years ago of the twin boys? One was accidentally disfigured in a botched circumcision, so he was raised as a girl. Both boys’ lives were ultimately destroyed by the tragic, misguided attempt to thwart nature as a way to solve the problem of his missing parts. I forget their names but IIRC there is even a wiki article about them.

I suspect that the modern explanation [of the disaster] would be that the child was wired normally and thus did not start off “wanting” to be a girl. This one wanted to be a girl so it’s okay?

Truly Sodom fried for less.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 4:46:40 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Morgana

They used to sterilize the mentally ill...

...oh wait! They still do!


15 posted on 12/14/2011 4:49:41 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Having A Communist Joke In The White House Takes Graveyard Humor To New Heights.")
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To: Morgana

the claim that children are “born that way” is shown to be false here...these are identical twins, so genetically they are the same.

So his problem is “developmental”: due to something that happened to him early in his upbringing.

However, there is a photo of the “boy” in a pink tutu. So where did he get the “tutu”? I had boys, and didn’t have any in my house (does he have an older sister?)

Which makes me think that he was somehow “programmed” by his parents to be a girl to get attention...either because he saw a sister (is there one? I didn’t read the article) or that he found that he was given positive feedback when he did such things.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 5:09:28 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: rcrngroup
I think your evident desire to see these people punished in hell is an ugly display which does justice neither to them nor to God.

Yes, I believe the surgical mutilation of this boy is gravely wrong. Yes, it is the maiming of a healthy body to make it match a confused and unhappy mind. Yes, I believe the parents are cooperating in a grave evil and the doctors are acting in a blatantly unethical act: an act of medical destruction rather than healing.

However there is no way one can blame the boy, Wyatt, who is under his misguided parents' control and is not making the decisions for himself. As for the parents, God (and not you and I) will judge whether they are acting with true knowledge and culp[able consent, or whether they have been deceived and victimized as well.

I can only agree that objectively this is parfticipation in the evil of sexual mutilation. However as to the judgment of souls, leave that to the Creator. He knows souls. He can judge justly and compassionately. He does not hate His creatures; He wills that none should perish; He reaches out at every moment to save.

17 posted on 12/14/2011 5:25:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for us sinners.)
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To: LadyDoc

When the boys were 5, Kelly and Wayne threw a “get-to-know-me’’ party for classmates and parents. Wyatt appeared beaming at the top of the stairs in a princess gown, a gift from HIS GRANDMOTHER!
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/12/11/led-child-who-simply-knew/SsH1U9Pn9JKArTiumZdxaL/story.html


18 posted on 12/14/2011 5:28:23 PM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Morgana

child abuse plain and simple.

the doctors should have their license pulled.

other states should pro activly bar this procedure and these doctors specifically.


19 posted on 12/14/2011 5:34:06 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Morgana

A few important points.

Halfway through gestation, male mammal fetuses excrete a bit of testosterone from their testes, which goes to their brain and tells it, it is a male brain. If that testosterone does not arrive, the human brain is female by default.

In animals this is enough to determine their mating behavior, BUT NOT IN HUMANS. It DOES NOT determine either sexuality or sexual attraction in humans.

But what it does do is strongly influence a child as to whether they have masculine or feminine behavior. A very masculine woman can be very heterosexual, and a very feminine male can also be very heterosexual. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE GAY.

However, it can result in truly impressive gender identity confusion. This can be very pronounced to the point that a child deeply dislikes their natural gender, and in rare cases, it can haunt a child all the way to adulthood.

The dangerous part of this is that there are natural and artificial chemicals that can make this gender confusion much worse.

So the question becomes: is transgenderism legitimate?

If a boy thinks he is a girl, all the way through to adulthood, and suffers accordingly because he is not a girl, is hormone therapy and surgery acceptable?

This problem is not correctable through drugs or psychotherapy, it should be noted.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 5:51:49 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: massmike

thanks for the link.

Yup. A sick family and a boy who needs our prayers. Sigh.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 6:24:14 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc

I wonder if he grew up having mommy say...I wish I had a little girl......son, too young to know anything give her what she wanted...


22 posted on 12/14/2011 6:25:41 PM PST by goat granny
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Psychiatry has no “easy” answer to homosexuality or even transgendered folks.

However, these things are not “all or nothing”.

And there is a good argument that the present day “epidemic” of transgenderism is due to obsessive/compulsive ideas being reinforced.

In Asian religions, (e.g.Confucius) one rejects one’s personal desires and does the right thing. Marriage doesn’t require love, but obedience to the role model.

So you quietly do such things in private while playing the role given to you in society.

For gays, it means in the closet, or else living on the fringes of society where there is a “space” for gays (e.g. theatre, transvestites in India, gay subculture in the Philippines).

In the west, you change society to “accept” deviant behavior.

The question is: Is this “good” for society? Will other children become confused about what is male and female?

A lot of the “culture wars” today are not about religion per se, but about the confusion of sexuality, where sexual activity is outside the sphere or morality, and male and females are the same in everything, ignoring the reality of sexuality in the personality.

Great for women with careers, who now are “free” to live as men, but not great for those who want to be moms.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 6:35:00 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Morgana

Several years ago, Johns Hopkins University Hospital disbanded its “sex-change” program because of serious concerns within the group that it was doing more harm than good. In November, 2004, Paul McHugh, Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins and a director of the program, wrote about it in an article in First Things Magazine.

In the article, Prof. McHugh said:

I have witnessed a great deal of damage from sex-reassignment. The children transformed from their male constitution into female roles suffered prolonged distress and misery as they sensed their natural attitudes. Their parents usually lived with guilt over their decisions-second-guessing themselves and somewhat ashamed of the fabrication, both surgical and social, they had imposed on their sons. As for the adults who came to us claiming to have discovered their “true” sexual identity and to have heard about sex-change operations, we psychiatrists have been distracted from studying the causes and natures of their mental misdirections by preparing them for surgery and for a life in the other sex. We have wasted scientific and technical resources and damaged our professional credibility by collaborating with madness rather than trying to study, cure, and ultimately prevent it.

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2009/02/surgical-sex—35

In 2010, Richard Fitzgibbons MD, Philip Sutton PhD, and Dale O’Leary — a psychiatrist, psychologist, and researcher associated with NARTH, all with several years experience in this field — published an article in National Catholic Bioethics Center titled “The Psychopathology of “Sex Reassignment Surgery”:

In the paper they concluded:

Sex reassignment surgery (SRS) mutilates a healthy, non-diseased body . . . Candidates for SRS may believe that they are trapped in the bodies of the wrong sex and therefore desire, or more accurately demand SRS; however, this belief is generated by a disordered perception of self.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10b/transgender_health/index.html

Child psychiatrist Dr. Miriam Grossman testifies before the California Legislature on the effects of acceptance of “transgenderism” on children.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MassResistance?feature=mhee#p/u/17/eTglqQFkbGY

Walt Heyer, a former transsexual (who had surgery to “become” a woman) has lectured internationally about his horrible experience “becoming” a woman and realizing he wanted to be a man again. He describes his experiences in a book titled “Paper Genders.” Working with MassResistance, he submitted compelling testimony before the Massachusetts Legislature earlier this year:

“This surgery is absolutely destructive” — sad message from former transgender to warn others
What the activists don’t tell you . . .
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt11/tranny_bill/testimony/walt_heyer.html

Sarah Allis Yang is a young woman who identifies herself as a recovered transsexual. Earlier this year, working with MassResistance, she submitted testimony to the Massachusetts Legislature.

In her testimony she said:

I spent 19 years of my life living as a man. My first words were “I’m a boy.” If anyone could claim that they were “born this way,” it was me.

I thought I had no choice but to either get surgery or continue dating women as a man trapped in a girl’s body. I became suicidal not because of societal pressures or lack of understanding or acceptance from others but because I personally didn’t want to live this way because it was a detrimental and painful lifestyle and no one offered me any other choice or option but to be this way.

That led to hopelessness and depression, because of the belief that I could never change. That is until God came into my life.

Thirteen years later, I now totally embrace and accept myself for who I really am, a woman. I’m even marrying the love of my life, a man named Matt this September. This is the happiest I’ve ever been with myself.

Sarah was one of the lucky ones. She did not have the hormone treatments or body mutilating surgery, which the activists constantly are pushing.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt11/tranny_bill/testimony/sarah_yang.html

http://www.massresistance.com/docs/gen/11d/globe_kid_sex_change/index.html


24 posted on 12/14/2011 6:45:11 PM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Absolutely.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 9:06:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: massmike

Thanks for posting this. Going to save it.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 9:10:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Morgana

I very rarely use this phrase, but “There oughta be a law!” In this case, there definitely should be laws against giving sex change treatments to minors. Anyone who would do this to a child should be thrown in prison, and I’m not joking. This article literally sickens me.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 9:25:55 PM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: LadyDoc

“In the west, you change society to “accept” deviant behavior.”

In either case, of accepting or rejecting behavior, ignores that such gender mis-identification is the result of women being exposed to significant amounts of natural and synthetic hormonal active chemicals, which in turn interferes with the gestation of their children.

One of the most profound concerns is the use of plant estrogen, to improve the health and yield of agricultural crops for decades. Plant estrogen is chemically very similar to animal estrogen, and is thought of as so potent that it could be a determinate factor in gender itself.

Here is a list of foods high in estrogen, and foods that *inhibit* estrogen. Importantly, since estrogen inhibits testosterone in both males and the tiny amount of testosterone in females, estrogen inhibitory foods are also very important.

http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id45.html

Thus, long before it becomes a “nuture” argument, it is a “nature” argument. It is also much easier to monitor and even adjust fetal development than it is to do so to a child or adult, through cultural or psychological means.

Finally, there is the as yet unmentioned problem of children who are born with gender variance. The extreme of this is Hermaphroditus, but many more have conditions like androgen insensitivity, so that, though male, they develop a female body type, even breasts.

If society deals with this formative problems, fussing about whether abnormal people should be fixed becomes far less pressing.


28 posted on 12/15/2011 7:57:50 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Morgana

This is medical “science” taking advantage of a profound mental illness. If this kid has XY chromosomes, he is a male.

Really, really sad and reprehensible.


29 posted on 12/15/2011 6:54:43 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

This is cosmetic surgeons taking advantage of people who are very mentally ill.

What a way to make money.


30 posted on 12/15/2011 7:42:10 PM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: Morgana

Sick,sick,sick.

What is wrong with this world?


31 posted on 12/16/2011 5:31:42 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Morgana

I cannot imagine the removal of a penis in order to “become a woman”.

I’m a woman and it makes me cringe.


32 posted on 12/16/2011 5:34:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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