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To: Owl_Eagle

I am a christian and I think we are in what ever the tribulation is. I think next year is going to be the most trying time in the worlds history. I mean Obama is clearly the Anti-Christ or a demon. I said when Obama was nominated something was wrong with him. And I do still believe we are going to be put under martial law next year. Why would there be all the FEMA camps built around the country. I want to know? Or what will happen is Obama will go out with a BANG when he loses the WHITE HUT! If you all know what I mean? I hope not...


23 posted on 12/16/2011 11:15:50 AM PST by crazydad
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To: crazydad

All three of my daughters said independently (at different times and not around each other) including my 7 year old at the time, “Obama makes my stomach hurt.”


33 posted on 12/16/2011 11:45:02 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: crazydad
Obama is clearly the Anti-Christ or a demon. I said when Obama was nominated something was wrong with him. And I do still believe we are going to be put under martial law next year. Why would there be all the FEMA camps built around the country. I want to know? Or what will happen is Obama will go out with a BANG when he loses the WHITE HUT!

Exactly. What was with FEMA buying a billion dollars worth of dehydrated meals a few months ago? They bought up so much that those food companies weren't able to process shipments to their customers for several weeks or months. I doubt he waits for November. He'll declare martial law or create some crisis this summer. If by some miracle, he does leave peacefully, you can be sure it's only because he has installed enough thugs in high places to continue Soro's plan.

51 posted on 12/16/2011 12:26:35 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: crazydad
I mean Obama is clearly the Anti-Christ

Revelation 13:7 says the Antichrist will "make war with the saints and ... overcome them".

No way will Baraq do that in any sort of spiritual sense. He may be a lot of things, and I believe him to be a Marxist as just the start of those things ... but the Antichrist he is not.

60 posted on 12/16/2011 1:31:43 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: crazydad
I am a christian and I think we are in what ever the tribulation is

Please read Flavius Josephus's work "The War of the Jews" books VI and VII where he describes the Tribulation that our LORD predicted (Mark 13:2-23) forty years ("this generation") earlier. This display is much tamer than, say, mothers eating their own children.

I think next year is going to be the most trying time in the worlds history.

Not possible at all. Our LORD said, in v 19 "For in those days [70 AD] there will be a tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation...nor ever shall be.. Which would seem to be God Himself saying that next year, or any year for that matter, will ever equal or exceed the tribulation that brought down Jerusalem and started the Diaspora.

Simple history ought to convince you that we are actually living now in a virtual Golden Age. Lets merely look within the past century. Is our economy better or worse than the Great Depression? Would you say that we are having a Pandemic anywhere in the same league as seen in 1918 when a hundred million died of the Spanish Flu or three hundred million dying over Smallpox (which has been largely eradicated)? How about rounding up millions of Jews and shoving them into ovens? Happening in the next 12 months? How about a Stalin like purge of over 20 million to starvation and the elements? How about Mao's "Cultural Revolution" that left upwards of 200 million souls dead? Are we reaching the level of horror that is in your Crystal Ball?

We couldn't even dig a canal in Panama without tens of thousands dying of malaria, now huge building projects take place without scores killed - and the whole world is sitting on the edge of their seats when miners in Chile get trapped in a mine (yet survive). In 1920 an earthquake in China killed over a quarter million people, a decade later floods killed an order of magnitude more people.

Prosperity and Peace circle the globe now - never before in all of world history and you are declaring that we are in a tribulation with the worse conditions the world has ever seen to come with the new wall calendar?

Based on what facts?

I understand that as a "Christian" you may have spent many years being propagandized by professional fear-mongers who make a living as hucksters of Doom where if you donate to their ministry then God will grant you inside personal knowledge of all end-of-the-world scenarios.

The Great Tribulation was in 70 AD. So relax, it won't get like that - particularly since you weren't involved in killing our LORD and the prophets. Rather our LORD has promised all believers of all ages and cultures that in "this life you will have tribulation" (Jn 16:33) The Church in Smyrna (Rv 2) was characterized as undergoing "tribulation". Instead of bitching and moaning about some perceived future tribulation, Paul says that we are comforted in "all our tribulation" (2 Co 1:4) should be joyful in it (2 Co 7:4) and glory in it because it produces perseverance (Ro 5:3).

I know the Futurists would rather have a magic escape hatch so that they aren't inconvenienced with Tribulation, but I fear that the modern American Religion has absolutely no interest in taking up the cross and following Christ. (LK 14:27)

96 posted on 12/16/2011 8:22:51 PM PST by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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