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Newt Crashes, Romney Soars On InTrade
Business Insider ^ | December 15th | Zeke Miller

Posted on 12/17/2011 4:00:51 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt Gingrich's fortunes on the prediction betting website InTrade have collapsed in the past three days, amid an unrelenting assault from all sides in the Republican field.

After pushing close to 40 percent on the site, he's down to a 16.5 percent chance of winning the nomination. Mitt Romney, who fell as low as 42 percent on the site last week, is back up to 64 percent.

The radical swing is a reflection of the growing unease on all sides about Gingrich's viability as the nominee - and recent polling showing that Gingrich's rise to the top in Iowa was just a blip.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.businessinsider.com ...


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Normally I'd be worried that the republican establishment has yet again taken out one of our guys,(with the help of the liberal media of course) but realistically, Newt's a progressive anyways. The republican establishment is only taking out one of their own. I can't say I'll cry a river.

Let's go Santorum! Let's go Bachmann!

Heck, why not. Even Perry.

Let's drive a real conservative to the nomination!!!!!!

1 posted on 12/17/2011 4:00:57 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What part of “I will never vote for Romney” do these people not understand?


2 posted on 12/17/2011 4:06:41 PM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

We DON’T want another Dole another McCain! #nonromney #antiromney


3 posted on 12/17/2011 4:08:46 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Of course the Democrats want Romney to succeed because they know he is beatable. Why else would they be supporting him against a powerful Newt?

Newt has my vote!

4 posted on 12/17/2011 4:09:33 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: mckenzie7

the powerful newt? lol..ya ok


5 posted on 12/17/2011 4:11:01 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Bachmann liked Newt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8zz5myJ_hs


6 posted on 12/17/2011 4:11:54 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Look at their accomplishments. Newt allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.

Romney, on the other hand, vehemently denied Ronald Reagan and aligned himself with Ted Kennedy and the left. Romney accomplished installing liberal big government programs, defended and promoted Roe v Wade and legalized abortion as “settled law,” advocated and implemented RomneyCare with its liberty killing government mandates against formerly free citizens and its taxpayer funded or subsidized and mandated abortion procedures. He ran and governed to the left of Ted Kennedy on the “gay agenda” resulting in gay marriage in Massachusetts. He appointed liberal judges and liberal appointees throughout his government. Under his “leadership” conservatism and the Republican party was all but destroyed in Massachusetts.

Romney is one evil liberal progressive. No way in hell will MittBots be allowed to support this abortionist, big government, socialist scumbag on FR!

Guess my message isn’t clear enough. I have to keep repeating it and zotting would be MittBots.

79 posted on Sat Dec 03 2011 19:59:37 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by Jim Robinson


7 posted on 12/17/2011 4:13:16 PM PST by narses
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

not sure anyone commenting on this thread even knows what Intrade is and whose opinions it normally reflects.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 4:14:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Bob Dull II.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 4:15:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Since it is technically illegal for Americans to bet on InTrade, the majority of the wagers are from Europeans that don't necessarily know what the political climate is here in the U.S.
10 posted on 12/17/2011 4:15:36 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yes, there are still forty seconds left until the nomination, so let’s defeat Newt and throw up a Hail Mary pass that some four-percenter will pull-out a miracle, last-second, come-from-nowhere, unprecedented upset victory for the ages - the greatest upset ever, EVER. All we have to do is get all the people who haven’t seen that Bachmann should be the choice and not Perry, that Santorum should be the choice and not Bachmann, that Perry should be the choice and not Bachmann, and that Perry should be the choice and not Santorum to suddenly all drop the candidate they are praying will be the one who pulls off the miracle victory and unite behind one of them. So which of you Bachmann supporters is ready to dump her right now and get behind Perry? Now is the time!!!

Then let’s all bitch that Romney won the nod.

Intrade had Giuliani winning and Palin about a 1000:1 shot for Veep. Stop pretending a gambling site is the authority on the GOP nonination.

Say, what are Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum at on Intrade, Halfman?

Stick with Newt. Everyone has had the chance to make their case, Newt has made it. He is the alternative to Mitt, period. There is no time left for fantasies about someone else winning the nomination.


11 posted on 12/17/2011 4:16:30 PM PST by TitansAFC (I will never, EVER, under any circumstance, EVER support Ron Paul over ANYBODY.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I wouldn’t count Newt out yet.


12 posted on 12/17/2011 4:17:24 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: TitansAFC

Yep, it’s newt or Romney, the other have all proven themselves over land over and over and over again to be not up to the task

I’m with Newt!


13 posted on 12/17/2011 4:19:23 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Are you serious? Your dumb*ss attitude will give us Mitt - you bought their crap, hook line and sinker.


14 posted on 12/17/2011 4:31:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt has my vote also.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 4:34:00 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Grunthor
What part of “I will never vote for Romney” do these people not understand?

F.R. members are maybe 98% against Milt but F.R. members are a miniscule percentage of the voting population.

16 posted on 12/17/2011 4:35:43 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: skaterboy

You’ll get weak romney and screw America for good and then you won’t be laughing - he and his crew, commies and all will be laughing at the dumb voters.


17 posted on 12/17/2011 4:36:30 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Could you please take a minute and explain Intrade, because I really don’t know what it is, and I see it cited a lot of times... thank you.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 4:37:24 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What fools these mortals be!


19 posted on 12/17/2011 4:39:55 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What fools these mortals be!


20 posted on 12/17/2011 4:40:18 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
THE TRUTH ABOUT INTRADE: Why You Should Totally Ignore It During The Election

businessinsider.com

Nov. 11, 2011
Because by looking at it you might think you're getting fresh insight into the data or more information somehow, but what you're really getting is a different way of seeing the same mainstream groupthink that you could get anywhere else. That's very dangerous.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 4:43:55 PM PST by Daaave ("I don't apologize to take care of my family.")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

They will try to re-roll the dice hoping that Romney comes up 7’s. Try as they may, Newt Gingrich will come up on top because he is the most qualified to get it done in Washington D.C. In fact, if you told Mitt that Washington was bordered by the Potomac River, he might ask, “Are you talking about Washington where the Space Needle is?”


22 posted on 12/17/2011 4:44:41 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: true believer forever
Could you please take a minute and explain Intrade

I just looked up InTrade. Go to the link in post #21.

23 posted on 12/17/2011 4:48:44 PM PST by Daaave ("I don't apologize to take care of my family.")
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To: Grunthor

I agree. I will never vote for Romney.

Let’s up the ante:

“I will work to defeat Romney in either the primary or the general election no matter where he appears.”

That would require:

1. The desire to build a new party with this as a propitious moment to do so, or

2. A belief that Romney will actually be worse for Republicanism, or

3. An alternative candidate or party to vote for, or

4. A belief that a vote for either violated one’s religion, ethics, morality, etc.


24 posted on 12/17/2011 4:50:36 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Daaave

thanks so much... i am going there now...


25 posted on 12/17/2011 4:51:55 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: mckenzie7
Of course the Democrats want Romney to succeed because they know he is beatable. Why else would they be supporting him against a powerful Newt?

It doesn't seem to be quite so simple.

The Democrats don't think Romney is easily beatable. Most of their earlier obvious ("signed") effort was directed at Romney. The official YouTube videos, etc.

Since then, there seems to have been a realization on some level that the Democrats don't lose if Romney is elected. Romney seems to be more or less ok with Democrats at the moment, and as a result, the Democrats seem to have backed down a bit from the Romney hate and have set about getting rid of everyone else. Good for Romney, bad for Conservatives. What else is new?

If Obama wins, Democrats get a liberal. If Romney wins, they get a liberal. Obama is probably the easier to control of the two, which is why they'd more-or-less prefer Obama. But if Obama's number keep tanking, I think Democrats know that they will do fine with Romney.

It's a mess.

26 posted on 12/17/2011 4:53:51 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“Let’s drive a real conservative to the nomination!!!!!!”

We already are and his name is Newt Gingrich.

GO NEWT GO........


27 posted on 12/17/2011 5:01:02 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

well we need more blips


28 posted on 12/17/2011 5:03:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Daaave

Okay - that makes me feel a lot better. They are basically saying that the bettors read the papers and the pundits and then place their bets, according to what those sources say. So what else is new...


29 posted on 12/17/2011 5:04:41 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: xzins

I don’t like Newt, but I will vote for him, if I have to. Anyone, with the exception of Ron Paul would be better than Obama. I like Mitt Romney, and he did the best he could in Mass. with an 85% Dem. legislation. At least, he has been married to the same women for 45 years, and has wonderful family. Newt on the other hand was demeaning to Bachman, and I think he can’t be trusted on any position.
Romney has changed his positions as he got older, just like we all have. Newt changes his mind every minute.
I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.


30 posted on 12/17/2011 5:59:49 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: xzins

I don’t like Newt, but I will vote for him, if I have to. Anyone, with the exception of Ron Paul would be better than Obama. I like Mitt Romney, and he did the best he could in Mass. with an 85% Dem. legislation. At least, he has been married to the same women for 45 years, and has wonderful family. Newt on the other hand was demeaning to Bachman, and I think he can’t be trusted on any position.
Romney has changed his positions as he got older, just like we all have. Newt changes his mind every minute.
I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.


31 posted on 12/17/2011 6:00:00 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: Logical me

When are people gonna wake up to the fact that, in the general election, most people (Republicans included) vote on the basis of looks, personna, charisma, leadership qualities, did I say looks ....

The most conservative candidate is NOT always the best .... contrary to what rush limbaugh likes to claim. And I love Limbaugh.

People want a president that looks like a president. Usually someone tall and well manored.

Don’t get me wrong. I wish everyone would gravitate to the most conservative ... but that is just not the way the American electorate acts .... and considering that our first mission is to defeat Obama ... then Romney isn’t a bad choice.


32 posted on 12/17/2011 6:07:00 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Edit35
People want a president that looks like a president. Usually someone tall and well manored.

They also want a president who can spell correctly, so I guess that leaves you out.
33 posted on 12/17/2011 6:11:43 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

You have screwed the pooch this time in your spelling police action

Mitt is well manored....... he has a fantastic manor


34 posted on 12/17/2011 6:15:40 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

On Intrade less than a week ago, Romney was below 45%. He took a major hit as Gingrich was rising in the polls. Next thing you know, the media, Romney surrogates and establishment GOP pundits begin hitting Gingrich left and right (I have some issues with Newt, but the media NEVER attacked Romney’s terrible record the way they do everybody else’s... it’s sickening. He is coddled because he’s the liberalist candidate).

They’re pushing the same b.s. narrative that the guy who was pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-gay & made the blueprint for ObamaCare is inevitable & that he’s the only “electable” candidate, so we all have to “fall in line”.

The liberal media is blatantly manipulating the public... until he’s up against their true chosen ONE. The media is NOT going to keep throwing him softballs in the general election. They will suddenly start caring about abortion and conservatism. Now, do we think Romney’s going to stand up for conservative values against Obama or is he going to try to out-liberal him like he tried to do Ted Kennedy? Romney has never stood up for conservative values so we can take a wild guess what route he’s going. And he’s going to try to drag us down with him.

Can you imagine him as our nominee and trying to explain why “RomneyCare covers baby killing with a 50 buck co-pay and oh yea, it gives free healthcare to illegals too.”

The ONLY reason he’s considered electable to the MSM is because he’s viewed as a moderate/liberal. It’s not because he’s a “conservative”. All we have to do is look at his record to see he’s anything but conservative. He even described himself as progressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2XkKK1mio4

Then, real conservatives are stuck defending a tissue paper-thin candidate. Romney WILL lose in the general election.

DON’T fall for the media’s lies again.


35 posted on 12/17/2011 6:16:03 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Lady on the Lake
I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.

And the DNC machine is going to hammer Newt with that, you can count on it. I'd vote for Newt in a heartbeat over Obama but I still have doubts that he can win.
36 posted on 12/17/2011 6:16:20 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

I would have to hold my breath, in order to vote for Newt!
Romney’s my man!

That ought to stir you all up: Just like shooting fish in a barrel.


37 posted on 12/17/2011 6:23:43 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: Grunthor
My vote is for Romney, but if he loses, I'll vote for anyone other than Obama, CALM down now don't have a heart attack man.
38 posted on 12/17/2011 6:26:53 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: Lady on the Lake
I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.

G-d forbid female voters pay attention to actual issues for once in their lives...

39 posted on 12/17/2011 6:30:01 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Signalman

They’ve got way more material on Romney’s governing record, his own quotes and his past positions to hammer than they do Newt’s. I’m not understanding why people don’t see that Romney has more baggage than anyone else based on his liberal record, and that once he is put under the microscope he’s going to get destroyed. I can’t think of one of the candidates who has a more liberal record than Romney. All he does is SAY he’s a conservative. His record says otherwise.


40 posted on 12/17/2011 6:31:00 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Lady on the Lake; P-Marlowe; onyx
I don’t like Newt, but I will vote for him, if I have to.

In my case voting for Romney would violate my ethical and moral beliefs. I cannot support an anti-life, anti-gun candidate. (The 2 are similar: one is the preservation of life, and the 2nd is the defense of life.)

Anyone, with the exception of Ron Paul would be better than Obama.

Both Paul and Obama hate Israel and evidently want it destroyed. That makes them equally devilish.

I like Mitt Romney, and he did the best he could in Mass. with an 85% Dem. legislation.

I do not trust Romney, therefore I must not like him. He did the worst he could as a supposed republican. Go here to The Mitt Romney Report

At least, he has been married to the same women for 45 years, and has wonderful family.

So has Obama, Clinton, and that has not stopped their being socialists.

Newt on the other hand was demeaning to Bachman,

No he wasn't. He said her facts about him were wrong. They were.

and I think he can’t be trusted on any position.

Newt has always governed as a conservative and has always talked openly about ideas.

Romney has changed his positions as he got older, just like we all have.

Romney has always governed as a liberal, and talks to suit the audience.

Newt changes his mind every minute.

Gingrich has always governed as a conservative.

I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.

His daughters say his wife asked for the divorce, that she did not have cancer, and that she is not dead.

41 posted on 12/17/2011 6:36:08 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: Lady on the Lake; P-Marlowe; onyx; TitansAFC; Jim Robinson
CORRECTED FORMATTING

I don’t like Newt, but I will vote for him, if I have to.

In my case voting for Romney would violate my ethical and moral beliefs. I cannot support an anti-life, anti-gun candidate. (The 2 are similar: one is the preservation of life, and the 2nd is the defense of life.)

Anyone, with the exception of Ron Paul would be better than Obama.

Both Paul and Obama hate Israel and evidently want it destroyed. That makes them equally devilish.

I like Mitt Romney, and he did the best he could in Mass. with an 85% Dem. legislation.

I do not trust Romney, therefore I must not like him. He did the worst he could as a supposed republican. Go here to The Mitt Romney Report

At least, he has been married to the same women for 45 years, and has wonderful family.

So has Obama, Clinton, and that has not stopped their being socialists.

Newt on the other hand was demeaning to Bachman,

No he wasn't. He said her facts about him were wrong. They were.

and I think he can’t be trusted on any position.

Newt has always governed as a conservative and has always talked openly about ideas.

Romney has changed his positions as he got older, just like we all have.

Romney has always governed as a liberal, and talks to suit the audience.

Newt changes his mind every minute.

Gingrich has always governed as a conservative.

I don’t think women are going to like Newt, when they hear about how he treated his former wives.

His daughters say his wife asked for the divorce, that she did not have cancer, and that she is not dead.

42 posted on 12/17/2011 6:39:35 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: xzins

LOL!

That’s much better. The first one looked like you were arguing with yourself.


43 posted on 12/17/2011 6:49:21 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Graybeard58

“F.R. members are maybe 98% against Milt but F.R. members are a miniscule percentage of the voting population.”

And usually not representative of the country or the whole center-right side of politics, either.

More prone to following the latest fad; Palin, Cain, etc.


44 posted on 12/17/2011 7:14:18 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: SumProVita

Oh, yes, introductions given before keynote speeches are always full of constructive criticism!


45 posted on 12/17/2011 8:02:36 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: xzins

I’ll vote Constitution Party if Romney is the nominee.


46 posted on 12/17/2011 8:30:14 PM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Lady on the Lake

Well I guess SOMEONE must be supporting Romney.

That someone will never, not ever be me.


47 posted on 12/17/2011 8:32:24 PM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Romney sucks, sorry but if He’s the nominee (and realistically) 2 weeks out Bachmann doesn’t have a chance (and Perry is progressive also), then Newt is the only choice.


48 posted on 12/17/2011 9:11:47 PM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: bert
You have screwed the pooch this time in your spelling police action

Mitt is well manored....... he has a fantastic manor


Uh huh. In that case he would be "well-manored" rather than "well-mannered" or "well manored."
49 posted on 12/18/2011 4:48:01 AM PST by aruanan
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To: xzins

Well I guess we no who’s supporting a loser.


50 posted on 12/18/2011 3:02:51 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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