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One president, please, with a side of Rice (Condoleezza could accept VP nod)
The Washington Times ^ | Sunday, December 18, 2011 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 12/19/2011 5:08:49 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

"America’s first black female secretary of state is quietly positioning herself to be the top choice of the eventual Republican presidential nominee, ready to deliver bona fide foreign-policy credentials lacking among the candidates. The 56-year-old has recently raised her profile, releasing her memoir in November and embarking on a monthlong book tour."

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"Her addition to the ticket, which wouldn’t come until late next summer, would dramatically change the dynamics of the 2012 election. As a black woman - her family has roots in the Deep South stretching back to before Civil War era, and worked as sharecroppers after emancipation - she would mute Democrats’ charges of racism among conservatives, especially tea party members. And her sex would likely prompt moderate women to take a serious look at the Republican ticket."

"Plus, her selection would be a giant chess move to counter the expected replacement of Vice President Joseph R. Biden with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Sure, the White House denies and denies, but that should really make any political watcher more suspicious. One White House insider even told me that the position swap was the only reason Mrs. Clinton joined the administration in the first place..."

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Mikey likes it. :D

1 posted on 12/19/2011 5:08:53 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Condi Rice = Pro Abortion and Vice President?

NO.


2 posted on 12/19/2011 5:11:10 AM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No thank you.


3 posted on 12/19/2011 5:12:39 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TheCause

Condi Rice = Obama defeated.

Vice Presidents do not set policy.


4 posted on 12/19/2011 5:13:58 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No thank you....


5 posted on 12/19/2011 5:14:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Noooooooooo

Rice is NOT a conservative.


6 posted on 12/19/2011 5:17:50 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry, no. She is a person of tremdendous accomplishment, but the unproductive approaches of the last 10 years are not what we need today.


7 posted on 12/19/2011 5:18:57 AM PST by Tax-chick (Two women in one house ... and one of 'em a redhead!)
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To: Vaquero

I see our first knee jerk as per usual, is to criticize our own.

Starting to get used to that.


8 posted on 12/19/2011 5:19:15 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I don’t believe she desires the job at all.


9 posted on 12/19/2011 5:25:47 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

On the surface, the idea intrigues me.

However, the electoral math might dictate a choice of someone who could deliver a particular swing state.

However, if Newt gets the nod, I can see him inviting Condi for the ride...


10 posted on 12/19/2011 5:27:01 AM PST by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

she is the one that thought it was ok to give weapons to the palestinian “police force”.....at the time the palestinians “promised” not to use them against israel... as soon as they got them, they used them against israel.. a numbskull like this should never have any position of power anywhere at anytime


11 posted on 12/19/2011 5:27:21 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: TheCause

Cringing at the thought. The Bushes reclaim the WH by black proxie! Hell, if you’re going to waste a vote on this moron, you might as well put Colin Powell again! Rice is a loser, votes and otherwise! Yuk!


12 posted on 12/19/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: joe fonebone

It seems to me, we are becoming a party of one-issue voters.

This is why Dems win elections.

Dems vote to win. We too often, vote just to make a point.

Then we lose. Making that point, moot.


14 posted on 12/19/2011 5:30:20 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

your own...not mine

so vote for Romney and Rice....that’s obviously the kind of ‘Beltway Republican’ you are.


15 posted on 12/19/2011 5:30:50 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

I would prefer, Palin and Rice.

Your accusation is without merit.


16 posted on 12/19/2011 5:31:59 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: TheCause

condi is to the left of colon powell and obama.

LLS


17 posted on 12/19/2011 5:32:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

She’s a member of the establishment repubs.

No thanks.


18 posted on 12/19/2011 5:39:41 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

She voted for Obama. Putting her on the ticket would be insane.


19 posted on 12/19/2011 5:41:33 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bull Pucky

name one significant contribution she made to our national security or foreign policy

I would bet she voted for obama, just like Colin Powell

If she was a white man, she would be teaching JR college somewhere- maybe- without tenure


20 posted on 12/19/2011 5:42:34 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: cowboyway

At some point, we need to consider how we’re going to win.

Seriously.

Our nation is well and truly on the line. If we lose, there will be no nation which will save the world.

This is for all the marbles.

We have already knocked several very good candidates from the race, just by being “against” things.

It’s time for us now, to start planning to win.


21 posted on 12/19/2011 5:43:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Republican establishment retreads’ time has passed.


22 posted on 12/19/2011 5:44:32 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; All
Condi Rice is probably the most incompetent National Security Advisor this country has ever had, and the second most incompetent Secretary of State, after Madeline Halfbright. She was the one who pushed for elections in Pakistan and Gaza/West Bank, and look where that got us. Moreover, she just loves Obama. That alone disqualifies her from any future National office.

Condoleezza Rice on Obama's Victory

Condi Rice defends Obama foreign policy

Rice meets with Obama, then defends his administration's approach

Rice Urges Israel to Aid Palestinian Election

Condoleezza Rice tells Pakistan not to delay elections amid growing fears of martial law

23 posted on 12/19/2011 5:45:31 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I see our first knee jerk as per usual, is to criticize our own.

Condi Rice is NOT "our own." She's just another big government liberal Republican, who BTW has NEVER been elected to any office at any level of government.

24 posted on 12/19/2011 5:48:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

the “knee jerk” is conservatives feeling like that have to cast everywhere for a nonwhite candidate to prove the GOP is not “racist” and going all squishy everytime they find a “minority” who is articulate. Or not even articulate.

Enough already.

Just choose someone of principle and competence who has actually achieved something. Someone with a track record.
DeMint/Ryan/Cantor.. even the dullard Jindal has a track record. Rice is no leader. She was an employee.


25 posted on 12/19/2011 5:49:29 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
At some point, we need to consider how we’re going to win.

Quite frankly, as Conservatives, our chances of winning flew right out the window when Sarah Palin called Mark Levin and told us that she's not running.

26 posted on 12/19/2011 5:51:19 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

NO.

Allen West for veep in 2012, for president in 2020!

Let’s besiege the editorial page of the Washington Times with our opinions on this. The people on Third Street in DC read it and note what’s on its pages.

To be honest, I don’t think Condi would run. I think she has some areas of vulnerability in her private life and doesn’t want to lose her privacy.


27 posted on 12/19/2011 6:01:15 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Timber Rattler

“our chances of winning flew right out the window when Sarah Palin called Mark Levin and told us that she’s not running”

****

Palin never planned to run. She never assembled a team for running. She didn’t put any effort into qualifying to be on the ballot in a single state.

This isn’t criticism of her decision. Just wondering why so many ever thought she was running in the first place.


28 posted on 12/19/2011 6:04:01 AM PST by peyton randolph (B. Hussein Obama solved Bush's "problem" of a AAA credit rating)
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To: TheCause

OMG. . .leave Condi to her Profession; and pick Lt. Col. Allen West. It is MItt who offered Condi as a consideration. Bad, and worse; this team.


29 posted on 12/19/2011 6:06:28 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: Junior_G

Bingo.


30 posted on 12/19/2011 6:06:44 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your #8 post and this one are 100% accurate!! It is getting pretty tiresome. There’s not a lot of deep thinking going on at FR these days. People even fall for John Semmens satire over and over just because they can’t resist latching onto the negative!! Some still don’t get it even when the threads end!


31 posted on 12/19/2011 6:10:35 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Would not believe, so readily; the 'insde the White House scource'. There is a whole lot of 'Brer Rababit' gamesmanship going on here. Or, just the 'battle of wits' as unfolds in poison scene in Princess Bride.

Take nothing; any of these people say; at face value.

32 posted on 12/19/2011 6:12:17 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“(Condoleezza could accept VP nod)”

On which ticket? Like Colon Powell, didn’t Condo back Barry in 2008?

I can’t imagine any conservative picking her.

What are her domestic policy positions?


33 posted on 12/19/2011 6:19:03 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

NEVER! If you want true conservatives to not vote, put Rice on the ballot.


34 posted on 12/19/2011 6:21:36 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: peyton randolph
Just wondering why so many ever thought she was running in the first place.

She had a very large grassroots network primed and ready to go. The MSM just ignored us, but the GOP-E was deathly afraid.

SarahPAC

Team Sarah

Conservatives4Palin

Palin TV

Organize4Palin

Palin Lays Out What Her Campaign Would Look Like

Palin in Madison: "Game on, Mr. President!"

Sarah Palin's Speech in Indianola, Iowa

Sarah Palin to Embark on Surprise ‘One Nation’ Tour

Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin

35 posted on 12/19/2011 6:28:48 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There ya go again, playing identity politics. It’s neither needed nor wanted.


36 posted on 12/19/2011 6:35:31 AM PST by old school
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To: ottbmare
Allen West for veep in 2012, for president in 2020!

Perry and Allen West! Now there is a ticket. The testosterone in the White House would be through the ROOF!

37 posted on 12/19/2011 6:55:30 AM PST by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It’s time for us now, to start planning to win.

You are fighting a good fight here on FR, but FReepers here have decided that it's all or nothing.

It does no good to explain to them that our first objective is to remove Obama. Condi? Not good enough. Mitt? Not good enough. Newt? Not good enough. Perry? Not good enough.

Instead, people who regard themselves as conservatives need to realize that "Good Enough" equals an Obama replacement. President Good Enough will at least prevent Obama from the destruction he has started. We have to stop the bleeding before we can call the surgeon.

But freepers want to hold out for the perfect conservative, and in doing so, they will give Obama a free ride through 2016.

38 posted on 12/19/2011 7:10:12 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Thank you for the list of links. I was so excited after Indianola...so on fire and accurate. A real treat of 40+minutes of ‘red meat’. I understand the decision

“We’re here because America is at a tipping point. America faces a crisis. And it’s not a crisis like perhaps a Midwest summer storm – the kind that moves in and hits hard, but then it moves on. No, this kind will relentlessly rage until we do restore all that is free and good and right about America. It’s not just fear of a double dip recession. And it’s not even the shame of a credit downgrade for the first time in U.S. history. It’s deeper than that. This is a systemic crisis due to failed policies and incompetent leadership. And we’re going to speak truth today. It may be hard-hitting, but we’re going to speak truth today because we need to start talking about what hasn’t worked, and we’re going to start talking about what will work for America. We will talk truth.” — Sarah Palin, Sept 3, 2011 at Indianola.

I understand why she chose not to run at this time. A portion of this decision was was made clearer to me after reading Executive Orders and Debt of Honor (fictional novels by Tom Clancy). In Executive Orders you can see the family sacrifice required by a President. With young children and a special needs child to consider, I can see why Sarah struggled with the decision to be President. It is not a part time job but a full and consuming job.

It is up to us!!!

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Vote out your current incumbent Representative in Washington. It is the peoples house, the United States House of Representatives belongs to us and we must take it back.


39 posted on 12/19/2011 7:11:10 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: TheCause

I’ll be happy to accept the nomination.


40 posted on 12/19/2011 7:12:59 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: McGavin999

I was thinking more of Newt and West. West is a reasonable, patient man. It’s my belief that he would have a moderating effect on Newt’s brilliant but uncontrolled all-over-the-place ideation. West is really very presidential and has a great role to play for this nation.


41 posted on 12/19/2011 7:13:05 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: An American!

The crisis is that those who should be making America stronger, are busy destroying American jobs and manufacturing in the name of “free trade”.

The people who should be helping, are instead joining the problem.


42 posted on 12/19/2011 7:18:14 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Condoleezza could accept VP nod”

No.

Haven’t we learned ANYthing?


43 posted on 12/19/2011 7:33:50 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Semper911
It does no good to explain to them that our first objective is to remove Obama.

The first objective is to elect a Conservative as President, not a liberal in Republican's clothing. People seemed to have forgotten that.

And many of us are tired of holding our noses and voting for lesser evils. A vote for a lesser evil is still a vote for evil, and we're not going to do it anymore. And if the Republican Party and the country burn for it, then so be it. The country deserves the government and President it elects. Period.

44 posted on 12/19/2011 7:34:52 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Road Glide

Well I cannot speak for you, but I’ve learned that we as a party are like a bucket of crabs.

Every time one of our side starts to climb up the side of the bucket, a bunch of other crabs drag them down.

What have you learned?


45 posted on 12/19/2011 7:35:57 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

In early December 2008, Rice praised President-elect Barack Obama’s selection of New York Senator Hillary Clinton to succeed her as Secretary of State, saying “she's terrific”. Rice, who has spoken to Clinton since her selection, said Clinton “is someone of intelligence and she'll do a great job”.

Rice said “If you go back to 2000 when I helped the president in the campaign. I said that I was, in effect, kind of libertarian on this issue. And meaning by that, that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I am a strong proponent of parental choice—of parental notification. I am a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself at times mildly pro-choice.”

Conservative criticism According to the Washington Post in late July 2008, former Undersecretary of State and U.N. Ambassador John R. Bolton was referring to Rice and her allies in the Bush Administration whom he believes have abandoned earlier hard-line principles when he said: “Once the collapse begins, adversaries have a real opportunity to gain advantage. In terms of the Bush presidency, this many reversals this close to the end destroys credibility... It appears there is no depth to which this administration will not sink in its last days.”[107]

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld repeatedly criticized Rice after their terms in office ended.[clarification needed] In 2011 she finally responded, saying that Rumsfeld “Doesn't know what he's talking about.”[108]

Former Vice President Dick Cheney's new book, In My Time suggested that Rice had misled the president about nuclear diplomacy with North Korea, saying she was naïve. He called her advice on the issue “utterly misleading.” He also chided Rice for clashing with White House advisors on the tone of the president's speeches on Iraq. And says the secretary of state “tearfully admitted” that the Bush administration should not have apologized for a claim the president made in his 2003 State of the Union address on the supposed search for uranium. She “came into my office, sat down in the chair next to my desk, and tearfully admitted I had been right,” Cheney wrote. Rice responded: “It certainly doesn't sound like me, now, does it?”, saying that she viewed the book as an “attack on my integrity.”[109]

Rice has also been criticized by other conservatives. Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard accused her of jettisoning the Bush Doctrine.[110] Other conservatives criticized her for her approach to Russia policy and other issues.[111] Many criticize Rice in particular for her opposition to the change of strategy in Iraq and surge in U.S. forces that began in 2007.[112]

I have seen it in print that she voted for obama.

LLS

46 posted on 12/19/2011 7:49:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld repeatedly criticized Rice after their terms in office ended.[clarification needed] In 2011 she finally responded, saying that Rumsfeld “Doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”[108]”

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Think I’ll agree with Condi on this one. :D


47 posted on 12/19/2011 7:53:34 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You can bet your life that Rummy didn’t vote for obamao but condi and powell both did.

LLS


48 posted on 12/19/2011 8:28:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
At some point, we need to consider how we’re going to win.

Do you think that Romney/Rice will repeal 0bamaCare?

Do you think they'll reduce the size of gubmint?

Do you think they'll secure the borders and deport the millions of border jumpers that are already here?

If you don't believe that they'll do any of the above (and if you do believe they'll do any of the above then you're fooling yourself) then precisely what do 'we win' with left of center establishment repubs in the Oval Office?

49 posted on 12/19/2011 9:00:57 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Timber Rattler
The first objective is to elect a Conservative as President

It would be nice if there was one on the ballot for us. But there isn't.

I will be voting against Barack Obama.I hope others will join me, regardless of how perfect the GOP candidate is or is not.

50 posted on 12/19/2011 9:08:57 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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