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Gulfport officer shoots pit bull during search
Sun Herald ^ | December 15, 2011 | ROBIN FITZGERALD

Posted on 12/20/2011 9:51:28 AM PST by Altariel

GULFPORT -- Spook was chained in his front yard on 20th Street when police officers with a search warrant went to the house and one of them shot the 3-year-old pit bull, witnesses said.

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She said Spook was a gentle inside dog but was outside on a chain while relatives were outside. Clark was inside when she heard the commotion.

“If the officer felt threatened by my dog, he had time to back off. I kept hearing my child saying over and over, ‘Please don’t shoot my dog,’” Clark said. “My dog was my best friend,” she said.

Clark’s daughter, Christa Turner, 25, said several police vehicles drove up quickly and officers jumped out.

“The dog started barking and my 3-year-old daughter ran toward the dog,” Turner said. “An officer pulled out a gun and I started yelling over and over, ‘Please don’t shoot my dog.’”

Turner said she and her child were about three feet from the dog when the officer shot it in the leg.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; meth; methlab; methlabrador; rapeofliberty; warondogs; wod; wodlist; wosd
If the dog broke the chain, I could understand shooting it. But a chained dog? And to fire a service weapon so close to a three year old?
1 posted on 12/20/2011 9:51:37 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

It’s not the officer’s fault. Shooting dogs is in their blood.


2 posted on 12/20/2011 9:54:55 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: Altariel

There is absolutely NOTHING these people can do about it either. That is the worst part.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 9:57:19 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

If I were police chief, that officer would be off the force, on the grounds that he acted foolishly and tarnished the department’s good name. The family would receive a check reimbursing them for the dog without prompting.


4 posted on 12/20/2011 10:07:30 AM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Altariel

Just idiocy on steroids ... Literally.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 10:30:56 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Altariel

Pets today, people tomorrow.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 10:32:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Altariel

It is now policy, likely unofficially, in many police departments to “gratuitously” kill dogs. The rationales for this are twisted, but make sense to the police.

1) To establish police dominance over people. Police regard this as an *essential* part of what police do. They want to be totally in charge and in control of all situations at all times. A dog hinders this dominance. Officers regularly kill even small dogs like Chihuahuas and Dachshunds, that present zero threat to anyone.

Importantly, anything that interferes with this control, be it a locked door or anything else, will get a similar harsh treatment. Do not knock on the door, kick it in or batter it down. A lot of it can be traced to steroid abuse.

If a person is not traumatized, they are not submissive enough, which is the intent of face down, handcuffed, gun to head and knee in back control measures; as well as taking small children away on any pretense.

2) The courts have established that things smashed or animals killed by police have a minimal value, so the most even a champion, papered AKC dog and service animal is worth is from $300 to $500, even if it cost thousands, and its training cost thousands more. Likewise, the replacement value of a windowed, solid oak door is just that of a cheap, hollow plywood door.

Importantly, the way around this problem is not what most people do, which is to complain or curse at and sue the police. Instead, the most effective way of fighting back is to publicly humiliate individual officers who have done such things.

The way to do this is to describe what they did as being an act of sexual gratification, suggesting that they found killing a dog to be sexually stimulating, and afterwards they showed a degree of “unprofessional intimacy and visible arousal” amongst themselves, touching each other briefly, yet inappropriately while “asserting dominance” in a sexual way over the people held at gunpoint.

This would make such police lose their marbles, and should only be done by those who don’t fear vigorous retaliation by the police.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 10:49:00 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Altariel
But a chained dog? And to fire a service weapon so close to a three year old?

The dog is mere property with the potential to interfere with the officer's wellbeing as some future time. And a three-year old what? An incorporated civilian? That's just a dispensable human resource of the State. Your objections are irrelevent.

Next case.

8 posted on 12/20/2011 10:49:36 AM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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One less pitbull. Can’t complain.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 10:51:49 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: Godwin1

The pitbull was incapable of inflicting harm to the officer.

A bullet could easily have ended the life of the three year old child rushing to her dog’s side.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 10:56:32 AM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Altariel
Ugh. I hate these stories. I know there are plenty of LEO FReepers. I always wait to see if any of them post to say "that's rotten, my squad would never do that." But so far none ever have, that I have seen.

Somebody is going to get killed some day over one of these incidents.

11 posted on 12/20/2011 10:57:31 AM PST by jboot
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To: driftdiver

No, the worst part is that:

“Kimberly Clark said the person police were seeking hasn’t lived at her home for three years. She said their search turned up no drugs or guns, and police left without making an arrest.”

A citizen who committed no crime lost a restrained dog on its master’s property.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 11:01:43 AM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: jboot

“Ugh. I hate these stories. I know there are plenty of LEO FReepers. I always wait to see if any of them post to say “that’s rotten, my squad would never do that.” But so far none ever have, that I have seen. “

I am certain that LEO FReepers and other conservative police officers here would not tolerate the cowardly behavior of an officer who shoots a chained dog. :-)


13 posted on 12/20/2011 11:04:25 AM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Altariel

I like to think that you are right.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 11:11:18 AM PST by jboot
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To: Altariel

What is the officer’s name?


15 posted on 12/20/2011 11:11:26 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Altariel
I was a LEO about 30 years ago. No comparison between officers then and now. Now we have too many “robocops” on the force. Bulked up on steroids. Can't wait to pull the weapon. Sad really. We would have caught holy hell from the rest of the guys for shooting a chained dog.
16 posted on 12/20/2011 11:18:17 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Altariel

I agree thats horrible. IMO its made worse by the fact that this is acceptable to our militarized police departments, city leaders, and judges.

When these things happen the aubj...er citizens have no recourse.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 11:22:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Altariel
If I were police chief, that officer would be off the force, on the grounds that he acted foolishly and tarnished the department’s good name. The family would receive a check reimbursing them for the dog without prompting.

Though noble, and I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment, it would just create an even bigger problem. In court it would be viewed as an outright admission of guilt, and open the police department to further lawsuits, basically giving the victims a blank check and the city and police department no defense.

Secondly, the officer involved will also sue for wrongful termination. His defense will always be that he was defending himself. It will be the onus of the department to prove him wrong.

So on the one hand, you do whats right, admit fault and get sued by the victims, with no defense, THEN you also get sued by the officer, and thus get your butt fired by the mayor. Or, you swallow the bile in your throat, and cover your, the city's, the department and the cops collective asses.

18 posted on 12/20/2011 11:50:11 AM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It is now policy, likely unofficially, in many police departments to “gratuitously” kill dogs. The rationales for this are twisted, but make sense to the police.


I would never believe that if I had not seen the evidence in so many cases now. These soldiers of hell will “progress” to gratuitously killing people if we fail to prosecute them. The only way to do that is to replace their political protectors. Since the GOP is a one note nelly, the solution is going to be outside GOP circles of power.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 11:53:59 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: prof.h.mandingo

Thank you for your service on the police force.

We need more like you today.


20 posted on 12/20/2011 12:04:58 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: jboot
Somebody is going to get killed some day over one of these incidents.

That's how Ruby Ridge started. Jackboots shot the kids' dog, kid shot the jackboot, jackboot shot the kid ...

21 posted on 12/20/2011 12:38:48 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Ding! Frog's done!)
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To: prof.h.mandingo
...Now we have too many “robocops” on the force. Bulked up on steroids...

And what's with the buzz cuts and shaved heads?

22 posted on 12/20/2011 12:41:25 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Ding! Frog's done!)
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To: mountn man
Sounds like you come down on the side of ass covering for bad players.

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23 posted on 12/20/2011 1:50:27 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: SaraJohnson

This is not a federal problem. It is a state and local problem, and it would be a grievous mistake to involve the feds in it, in any capacity.

Much of the problem began with the federal government in the early 1970s, after a few police assassinations by radicals, they actively encouraged police departments around the country to discontinue what could be called “Old West” rules, and instead adopt “SWAT tactics” and weaponry in their routine dealings with the public.

This is the underlying cause of much of this nonsense, yet it was the choice of states and municipalities to accept it.

It accelerated with additional federal involvement, which was to provide local police departments a cut of federal seizures of property and money with the RICO and other anti-drug laws. In effect, they “arrested” property and money, which itself does not have civil rights, and could only be recovered by its rightful owner in superior court, at a cost of around $100,000. At its peak, $300m was being confiscated annually, with 10% to local police departments who were in that jurisdiction.

So what do local and state authorities need to do?

1) Recognize the problem, and learn that minor reforms and training cannot correct it, because it affects all parts of police procedure.

2) Demand that all funds received by the police from the federal government as grants, instead go to the elected government, with the police only getting the portion they need.

3) Discontinue SWAT policies and require police to strictly follow pre-Patriot Act 4th Amendment procedures, including getting and using warrants for all searches; suspending the use of “no knock” home invasions, except under strict supervision; and require annotation and civilian review of every instance in which an officer brandished his firearm or Taser.

4) The establishment of majority non-affiliated with law enforcement civilian review boards, that only have police on them in an advisory capacity. Create a policy by which officers who are subject of multiple complaints by different citizens are placed on probationary status, and fired if they continue with the offending behavior.

5) Weekly, random blood tests for police officers, looking for any unlawful anabolic steroid use. First use they get counseling and probation. Second use is termination and a criminal offense.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 2:32:00 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yes, all your reform ideas sound good to me.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 2:39:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Forgotten Amendments
And what's with the buzz cuts and shaved heads?

Intimidation. Even 'cops' in small towns are doing it...

26 posted on 12/20/2011 2:43:07 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Police also need to be held financially accountable for their actions...I don’t mean paying for the dog, either...kill the dog, lose your home.


27 posted on 12/20/2011 2:46:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Altariel
"the person police were seeking hasn’t lived at her home for three years. She said their search turned up no drugs or guns, and police left without making an arrest."

More fine Drug War police work.

28 posted on 12/20/2011 2:54:43 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I swear to God, if a cop gratuitously killed my dog, I would never lay a finger on him.

But, I would bet quite a lot that he would end up, within a couple of years, setting on a flop house bed with an empty quart of Thunderbird, playing Russian Roulette with two chambers loaded.

29 posted on 12/20/2011 4:27:49 PM PST by Rifleman
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To: Forgotten Amendments
That's how Ruby Ridge started. Jackboots shot the kids' dog, kid shot the jackboot, jackboot shot the kid ...

And then the guy with the kid blew the jackboot away. Best use of an M1917 since WWII. Too bad he didn't get more of them.

30 posted on 12/20/2011 6:14:36 PM PST by jboot
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
"I kept hearing my child saying over and over, ‘Please don’t shoot my dog!’” ... their search turned up no drugs or guns, and police left without making an arrest.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

31 posted on 12/20/2011 8:07:10 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: SandRat; Joe 6-pack; bamahead

A regrettable story for the Doggie ping list.

Thanks for the ping, bamahead


32 posted on 12/20/2011 9:15:47 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; apackof2; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; metmom; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReepmail joe 6-pack.

33 posted on 12/20/2011 9:21:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Altariel

Shoot a K-9 “police officer” who is charging your 3-year old child and find out what happens.


34 posted on 12/21/2011 1:10:25 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Jack Hydrazine

and it’s going to get worse

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/20/local-cops-ready-for-war-with-homeland-security-funded-military-weapons.html


35 posted on 12/21/2011 9:24:30 AM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: Altariel

If you go to the first comment in the Sun Herald story, you see this comment:


kimberlaya5400

once again a lie per gulfport police department the dog was not even chained on my property he was on my moms property next door no where near my front door the chain is still where it was when he was shot and the blood stains are still where they are at sorry to bust ur bubble but he was nowhere by the house!!!!!!!!! u are welcome to come by and check it out 1816 20th street....please dont judge me ,my family or my dog marky ....yOU have no heart at all a dog is what u make him....if u train him to fight thats what he will do if you train him with love thats what he will do...nice try marky u probably run around killing ur neighbors animals...


If she is who she leads us to believe and is being truthful, the dog was chained next door, not even near her front door. So why kill the dog? Especially around little children?

Ever since the Waco massacre, it seems to be standard operating procedure for police to kill the dogs first no matter what the circumstances.

Also note from the story that the person police were seeking hasn’t lived at the home for three years. The search turned up no drugs or guns, and police left without making an arrest.


36 posted on 12/21/2011 9:30:22 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: Godwin1

wishing you Chet’s fate


37 posted on 12/21/2011 9:30:51 AM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: dervish; Godwin1

I second that, dervish....


38 posted on 12/21/2011 2:51:14 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Keep the CHRIST in Christmas!!!)
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To: SaraJohnson
I have long maintained steroid abuse is at the root of many police abuse cases. There is a mindset of Them and Us that is also fostered by access to military grade hardware so as to make the thin Blue line become the hardened Black occupiers. Just as a slight aside MTV(of all people) produced two rather good commercials that show the possible end result of the erosion of our rights. Welcome to the future and may God have mercy on our souls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppRqRae0TAs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s19fU9HgefA&feature=related
39 posted on 12/21/2011 3:22:16 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Altariel

I am so sick of reading these stories. Why doesn’t it stop? What can be done to MAKE it stop?

I will never call the police. I’d rather risk dealing with a burglar myself that probably won’t shoot my dog than a LEO that probably will. It is a disgrace.


40 posted on 12/27/2011 11:04:24 AM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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