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The Hobbit Trailer (2012)
You Tube ^ | 12-20-2011 | Peter Jackson

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:45:05 PM PST by TitansAFC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G0k3kHtyoqc


TOPICS: TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: 2012; hobbit; movies; trailer
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Oh yeah, the trailer is here!!!!!
1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:45:07 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC
http://youtu.be/G0k3kHtyoqc?hd=1
2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:49:33 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: TitansAFC

Next December?!!

Oh well, I guess this year it’s “Harold and Kumar do Beer Bongs”


3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:55:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TitansAFC

Can’t wait! Looks well done! Glad Peter Jackson was at the helm again!


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:56:40 PM PST by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: TitansAFC

Just finished reading the Hobbit (for the umpteenth time), can’t wait for the movie version. Hope it holds to the book better then the trilogy of the Rings did.

By the way, the animated version wasn’t bad.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 9:02:28 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: TitansAFC

Hooks you in like the old LOTR ones. Peter Jackson’s still got it.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 9:09:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019

I just watched those movies about 2 months ago. I coulda swore frodo died in the end in the book. Am I remembering the book correctly?


7 posted on 12/20/2011 9:19:44 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

And he dies at the end of the movie. Into the West was an allogory for death.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 9:22:35 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: mamelukesabre

no... Frodo didn’t die in the book.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 9:24:15 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: mamelukesabre

Fordo didn’t die, he just moved on the authors version of Valhalla.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 9:26:30 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: TitansAFC

Amazing!

Cannot wait, thanks for posting this.


11 posted on 12/20/2011 9:28:33 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: doc1019

I thought in the book he fell into the fire with the ring and with gollum.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 9:31:26 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

Oh no, he gets the honor of passing into the afterlife without dying.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 9:38:26 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: mamelukesabre

No he didn’t. The ring and gollum fell into the pit of fire, the overall hero, Sam, pulled him back at the last minute.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 9:38:39 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Nope. I believe in the animated version and the book, he was whisked away by the eagles at the last moment.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 9:39:12 PM PST by perplyone
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To: doc1019

dang.

I am getting to the point I can’t trust my memory anymore. When I watched that movie I was stunned at the ending and yelled at the TV “No! He falls in with the ring!” I could’ve sworn the last chapter of the book was sam going back to the shire by himself.

Ya know what else? I read the hobbit too. And I can’t remember a single dam thing about it. It is a total and complete blank.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 9:50:54 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: perplyone

True that.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 9:52:42 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; osagebowman; 300winmag; ExGeeEye; Ramius

WooHoo!!! Here we go again!!


18 posted on 12/20/2011 9:55:03 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: TitansAFC

So will anyone try The Silmarillion? FWIW I stopped reading it because it seemed almost like an alternative bible/story of creation and it was getting that I knew more about it than the real thing.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 9:55:27 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Organic coconut oil.

Which reminds me. I should start taking it again.


20 posted on 12/20/2011 9:56:27 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Ramius

Don’t you love the dwarves singing? The beginning kind of reminds me of the song Aragorn sang at his coronation in the White City.


21 posted on 12/20/2011 9:58:34 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: doc1019

The trilogy held very close to the book.

Yes, there were some scenes cut like Tom Bombadil, but most of those scenes would have been either unnecessary or just plain confusing to the non-LOTR fan.


22 posted on 12/20/2011 9:58:49 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: perplyone

How LOTR ends:

Frodo claims the Ring o Mount Doom at the Crack of Doom.

Gollum knocks out Sam and attacks Frodo.

Gollum bites off Frodo’s ring finger and, gloating, trips and falls into the Crack of Doom.

Frodo and Sam leave the Crack of Doom, succumb to fumes, are carried away by the Eagles.

Frodo and the remainder of the Fellowship rest for some months in Minas Tirith, then take a scenic tour back to the Shire.

Mary, Pippin, and the Hobbit’s of the Shire rise up and rout Sharkey’s gang that have occupied the Shire.

Frodo confronts Saruman (Sharkey) and Wormtongue. Wormtongue kills Saruman and and is in turn killed by the Hobbits.

Frodo is Mayor for a couple years. Sam marries Rosie Cotton and starts a family.

Frodos wounds haunt and plague him. He decides to leave the Shire for the West. Sam goes with him as far as the Grey Havens.

There they meet Gandalf, Elrond, Bilbo, and Gandalf. Merry and Pippin also turn up (having been tipped by Gandalf).

There is a final farewell to Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel. They take ship and take the Straight Road into the West and to Valinor.

Sam, Merry, and Pippin return to the Shire. Sam becomes Mayor for many years and raises a large family.

All are great friends to the end of the days. Aragorn lives a very long life and finally decides to “lay it down” and dies. Arwen returns to Lorien, lives there a year, and finally lays down her life there.

Legolas and Gimli, many years after that, go into the West together. The last of the Fellowship.


23 posted on 12/20/2011 10:00:29 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Chickensoup

In the West is where the elves originally came from. It is where they went back to.

Frodo, Sam and Bilbo did die in the West, because they were mortal, but it wasn’t an allegory. It was just where they died. The elves being naturally immortal, did not die.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 10:02:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: prisoner6

I slogged through that finally a couple of years ago. More to keep straight than I really wanted to bother with.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 10:02:27 PM PST by perplyone
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To: mamelukesabre

Some read Shakespeare until it is memory, some read Greek tragedies and commit them to memory ... I have read the Trilogy of the Rings so many times, I’m sick of it, but yet I read them again. Sick I know, but I can’t help myself.

No, Sam and Frodo (and company) return to hobitville and kick some series ass.


26 posted on 12/20/2011 10:02:34 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: mamelukesabre

No.

Frodo didn’t die in the lava in the book. He lost a finger when Gollum bit it off to get the ring.

Gollum then fell into the lava and perished.


27 posted on 12/20/2011 10:05:09 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: BradyLS

I should have added:

The book we know as The Lord of the Rings was (in story) begun by Bilbo, nearly completed by Frodo, and finished by Sam.

Long years later, Sam turns stewardship of the book to one of his daughters and leaves the Shire, presumably to go into the West and to the Undying Lands to be with Frodo.


28 posted on 12/20/2011 10:08:05 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

AAAHHHH!! We are so there. I can’t imagine anyone else other than Peter Jackson doing this movie. My whole family loves the movies.


29 posted on 12/20/2011 10:08:29 PM PST by 1scrappymom
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To: Jonty30

BS. The movies were great, but nothing like the books. Have you read them? I have read the trilogy over 50 time in the past 30 years. The movies were somewhat close but not near what was portrayed in the books.


30 posted on 12/20/2011 10:10:40 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: doc1019

I’ve read the books three times.

How was it differnt, in your opinion?


31 posted on 12/20/2011 10:11:50 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

I should add that Gollum would have perished shortly after anyway, because once the ring was destroyed, you start aging again and you quickly catch up to your where you should be, which in Gollums case was dust.


32 posted on 12/20/2011 10:14:39 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

Once again, if you have read the books more than once and viewed the movie you wouldn’t have to ask the question. If you have to ask the question, I doubt you have read the books.


33 posted on 12/20/2011 10:16:49 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Not sure whats worse, someone who can’t remember what the Hobbit was about or someone who CAN remember the difference between the Vanyar, Nolder, and Teleri and how Feanor is Fingolfin and Finarfin’s half brother.

If the 2 Hobbit movies make big money like LOTR, they just have to find a way to make the Silmarillion.

Movie 1 - ends at Fingolfin’s arrival back in Middle Earth (Star Wars-a new hope)
Movie 2- ends at Fall of Gondolin (Empire Strikes Back)
Movie 3- ends at Valar’s final war on Morgoth (Return of the Jedi)
Movie 4- ends with fall of Numenor
Movie 5- ends with last alliance


34 posted on 12/20/2011 10:18:44 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Quix

It’s on the gigantic ceiling high 4.5’ wide turning table contraption you built. Somewhere. Spin it and see.


35 posted on 12/20/2011 10:23:19 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: Jonty30

“In the West is where the elves originally came from. It is where they went back to.”

Actually they originally came from the east but thats just dork nitpicking - lol.


36 posted on 12/20/2011 10:23:41 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: SunTzuWu

What the heck was Galadriel doing in The Hobbit????


37 posted on 12/20/2011 10:28:22 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: doc1019

If you can’t answer the question, just say so.

I have read the books. The only scene I am familiar that was missing was the hobbits encounter with Tom Bombadil and the man-eating oak and how the ring had no power over Tom.

Peter Jackson said he left it out because it wasn’t necessary for the essence of the movie and that it would have interrupted the flow of it.

The wonderful thing about literature is that the reader has an interpretation of the author’s work and this often conflicts with how a film-maker will interpret the work and this is where sometimes dissatisfaction develops because the reader disagrees with the film-maker.


38 posted on 12/20/2011 10:29:23 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: prisoner6

The Silmarillion would be many, many movies. I don’t think even Jackson could do it justice.


39 posted on 12/20/2011 10:31:17 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: TitansAFC

Can’t wait for “There and Back Again”. I want to see Smaug.


40 posted on 12/20/2011 10:36:39 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: icwhatudo

You’re right.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia.

I seem to remember their creation being in the West and them moving across the sea.


41 posted on 12/20/2011 10:38:43 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: TitansAFC

We wants it, we needs it. Cannot wait for the precioussss


42 posted on 12/20/2011 10:40:52 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Jonty30

Three other parts that were noticeably missing or changed were Frodo moving out of Bag End at the beginning, the Scouring of the Shire at the end, and the Field of Cormallen.

I also wished they had done the great darkness for the battle at Minas Tirith, instead of the vague overcast of the movie.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 10:41:26 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: icwhatudo

I doubt they movie theatres would make it, just because I doubt its ability to be a commercial success.

The story is too unfamiliar with film audieances and it seems sort of open-ended, when audiences like films that do end.


44 posted on 12/20/2011 10:42:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SuziQ
Don’t you love the dwarves singing? The beginning kind of reminds me of the song Aragorn sang at his coronation in the White City.

it sounds great.

45 posted on 12/20/2011 10:43:00 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: doc1019

When these sorts of book-vs-movie debates come up, I just say, “The movies are the movies and the books are the books. If I want to know what happened in The Lord of the Rings, I go look it up in Tolkien’s books.”


46 posted on 12/20/2011 10:43:29 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Explorer89

She was part of the “White Council” that took on the Necromancer (Sauron in disguise) that is mentioned in “The Hobbit book. She wanted Gandalf to be the head of the council rather than Saruman.

Cirdan-—the older elf in beginning of FOTR that puts on a ring and also the elf in the background when everyone is leaving on the ship in ROTK—— is also a member. I hope he appears in the movie as he ties everything back to the beginning.


47 posted on 12/20/2011 10:44:47 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: prisoner6
So will anyone try The Silmarillion?

In honor of Jackson's latest "offering", I t hought I'd better "bone-up" on middle-earth. So, I've just finished reading the trilogy. But before that I went through The Silmarillion, and The Hobbit.

Years ago, I happened upon The Silmiarillion and attempted to read it (before I'd read anything else concerning Hobbits) and adopted the same attitude as your own.

I found though that after going through The Hobbit, The Fellowship - then seeing Jackson's rendition of middle-earth, I found The Silmarillion to actually be an enjoyable read. One reason for this I believe, is simply that in the Silmarillion, you almost immediately are overwhelmed with so names and characters - and no categories with which to sort them out...

48 posted on 12/20/2011 10:51:51 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: TitansAFC

I have listened over and again to the Dwarven song. It sends chills up the back of my neck.

I hope they sing the rest of that magnificent poetry in the movie.

I don’t think there will be too many conflicts with the story. Sir Ian McKellan was famous for running around the LOTR set with a copy of the trilogy pointing out mistakes.

Thank you, for posting this!!


49 posted on 12/20/2011 10:59:50 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: icwhatudo

Excellent idea!

It would be interesting to see Jackson portray Morgoth - as compared to Sauron and/or the balrog.

Both of which of course, were mere two-bit hoods compared to the “big man”.

Also, to see Glorfindel contest the balrog - good theater indeed!


50 posted on 12/20/2011 11:02:20 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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