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Subsidies on Domestic Ethanol & Tariffs on Imported Ethanol End
Cars In Depth ^ | December 26, 2011 | Ronnie Schreiber

Posted on 12/27/2011 7:28:47 PM PST by mamelukesabre

Lost in the hustle and bustle of the holiday season, Congress has quietly ended subsidies on ethanol fuel as well as ending a special import tariff on Brazilian ethanol. The ethanol subsidy paid fuel blenders 45 cents per gallon to make E10, gasoline blended with 10% ethanol. The tariff added 54 cents to the cost of importing a gallon of ethanol from Brazil. The ethanol subsidy currently costs US taxpayers about $6 billion per year. Over the past 30 years, the program has cost $45 billion. By taking no action on the subsidy before adjourning for the end of the year, Congress effectively killed the program.

Though ethanol interests, like corn growers and affiliated industries, have considerable political power, a wide variety of critics, cutting across political lines, had coalesced around the issue, encouraging Congress to let the subsidy end. The food processing and livestock industries joined with environmentalists to oppose the subsidy. The policy was encouraging diversion of corn from feedlots and food processors to ethanol production, raising the cost of foodstuffs. Environmentalists, some of whom used to endorse ethanol as a biofuel, now say that it’s “dirty” because its production is carbon intense.

Ethanol trade groups have said that the industry would survive the loss of the subsidy, now that the US ethanol production industry has become established. The industry is still protected by congressional mandates that call for 15 billion gallons of renewable fuels by 2015 and 36 billion gallons by 2022.

The ethanol issue involves a number of powerful players, corn growers and affiliated industries on one side and food interests, automakers and engine builders on the other. Then there’s the EPA to consider. The EPA has approved the use of E15, an 85/15 gasoline/ethanol blend, for use in post 2001 cars. Manufacturers say that without modifications, E15 will damage engines. In February, in a bipartisan move the House voted 285-136 to block the EPA from moving ahead with E15 regulations.

While ending the subsidy would seemingly discourage ethanol’s use, the end of the 54 cents per gallon tariff on imported Brazilian ethanol might do more to encourage that use than the subsidies did. Brazil is one place where it makes sense to use ethanol as a fuel because of Brazil’s huge sugar industry. The ratio of energy needed to produce it vs the energy obtained in the fuel for ethanol made from corn is barely greater than one, 1.3:1, compared to 2:1 for using sugar beets and 8:1 for sugar cane, the feedstock for Brazil’s ethanol. It costs half as much to make Brazilian cane ethanol as it does to make American corn ethanol. According to one academic study transportation costs to US ports eliminate that competitive advantage, but if that was a certainty, Brazilian sugar cane producers wouldn’t have threatened to start a trade war if the tariff wasn’t ended.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: ethanol; subsidies

1 posted on 12/27/2011 7:28:51 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
Talked to a farmer last year. Said he grows only one kind of corn...and it goes to the ethanol plant.

Farmers play the market, too so they have to be backing this somehow.

2 posted on 12/27/2011 7:33:08 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: mamelukesabre

Hey!
Washington State has Ethanol Free gas stations!
Yes, during Winter!!
12-26 to be exact.....

How do we get some of those in Colorado?


3 posted on 12/27/2011 7:33:17 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: mamelukesabre

seems to me, this should knock food prices down a little


4 posted on 12/27/2011 7:36:08 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: G Larry

What happens with the price??


5 posted on 12/27/2011 7:36:44 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: mamelukesabre

Sure would like to buy a better cut of beef again.


6 posted on 12/27/2011 7:37:50 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: mamelukesabre

Wow! Now I can have nachos again.


7 posted on 12/27/2011 7:38:05 PM PST by Jukeman (No Romney, No Bush, No Trump. No, No, No. Never. Final Word!)
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To: Sacajaweau

It goes DOWN!

Ethanol costs more to make than the gas equivalent.


8 posted on 12/27/2011 7:42:57 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: mamelukesabre

sfl


9 posted on 12/27/2011 7:44:06 PM PST by phockthis
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To: mamelukesabre

End US sugar cane tariffs and subsidies, too.


10 posted on 12/27/2011 7:44:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Lobbyist money to Newt was not high enough? You just can’t bribe fast enough.

Seriously, how can anybody, apart from Newt and other paid lobbyists, support ethanol subsidies?


11 posted on 12/27/2011 7:45:18 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t see how farmers could’ve backed this. It means the end of corn based ethanol. corn can’t compete with sugar cane for ethanol production and sugar cane can’t be grown in north america.


12 posted on 12/27/2011 7:46:53 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
does this mean we get that sh!t out of our gasoline now???
13 posted on 12/27/2011 7:48:41 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: heiss

seriously? anyone who grows corn would support it. Anyone who works at an ethanol plant would support it.


14 posted on 12/27/2011 7:50:48 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Chode

unfortunately no.


15 posted on 12/27/2011 7:51:38 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
and sugar cane can’t be grown in north america.

Sugar cane is grown in Florida...last time I checked, we're still in North America.

16 posted on 12/27/2011 7:52:36 PM PST by Florida native
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To: Florida native

good to know. I thought only hawaii could grow it.


17 posted on 12/27/2011 7:55:48 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

Corn squeezin’s should be only used to fuel human metabolic oxidation.


18 posted on 12/27/2011 7:57:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

my dog would disagree.


19 posted on 12/27/2011 7:59:25 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

The subsidy went to the blenders, the gasoline co.s, not the farmers, mills or ethanol makers. It was to sweeten the deal for the ones who least needed it, the oil co.s. Now, the same per cent ethanol blend is required by law and the oil. co.s won’t get the subsidy. The farmers, mills and ethanol makers won’t see more money and the gas price probably won’t change much. Obama will have a few extra billions he can squander elsewhere.


20 posted on 12/27/2011 8:01:34 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: mamelukesabre

Lucky Dog....


21 posted on 12/27/2011 8:02:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: RicocheT

It doesn’t matter if the farmers don’t receive the subsidy directly. They still benefit from higher corn prices.


22 posted on 12/27/2011 8:04:28 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: G Larry

Check out www.pure-gas.org for a state-by-state listing.

Since I have been using uncontaminated gasoline in my small engines all of my carburetor problems have stopped.

I DESPISE contaminated gasoline!


23 posted on 12/27/2011 8:05:07 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: mamelukesabre

IIRC, the federal excise tax on ‘gasoline’ at the pump is 7 cents more than the tax on ‘gasahol’...which is e85...so there is still a backdoor subsidy. Also, the mandates to use ‘alternative’ fuel, coupled with the illogical EPA decision that e15 is okee-dokee will mean most motorists will be getting ethanol in their fuel. Personal story - the fuel line on my car rusted through. This wasn’t on the bottom of the car, but right under the hood near the fuel rail. It rusted through from the Inside...so I will continue to try to avoid ethanol, until the feral government eliminates all choice.


24 posted on 12/27/2011 8:31:58 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

the article says E15 was killed by congress.


25 posted on 12/27/2011 8:42:34 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
Interesting..Brazil is importing more and more US Ethanol.
They've changed their laws to allow it to have 1% water (as opposed to .04%).
If this continues, maybe ethanol can survive on it's own and the farmers wont take a shot in the shorts.
The last time the elimination of subsidies was proposed, Archer Daniels whispered it would close it ethanol operation immediately.


26 posted on 12/27/2011 8:48:50 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: Florida native

And Louisana.


27 posted on 12/27/2011 8:54:19 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: mamelukesabre

I expect a lot of ethanol plants to soon be closing as without these subsidies the cost of ethanol laced gasoline will be on par if not higher than regular gasoline. Consumers buy this crap largely because it is about 10 cents per gallon cheaper. Without the price advantage and that consumers are waking up to the fact that ethanol blends lower your miles per gallon and may damage engines especially with higher ethanol content blends I see demand tumbling.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 8:58:27 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
End US sugar cane tariffs and subsidies, too.

I second that!

29 posted on 12/27/2011 9:07:42 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

We need to pass a law to mandate the use of cane sugar in Coke and Dr. Pepper.


30 posted on 12/27/2011 9:11:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mamelukesabre

We shall see. Sure the house voted yes on a bill to block the EPA from using their regulatory power. I don’t see the senate following suit, and I certainly don’t see Obama signing that into law. The EPA and other executive agencies are out of control...and I don’t see this vote as stopping anything. Same goes for the congression vote against regulation of farm dust a few weeks ago...your congressmen gets a lot of great material to run on; but, I fear these symbolic votes have no effect.


31 posted on 12/27/2011 9:28:38 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: The Great RJ
Consumers buy this crap largely because it is about 10 cents per gallon cheaper.

THIS consumer buys this crap because it is the ONLY thing available within reasonable driving distance. There is a marina about a 45 min. drive away (65-70 mph) that has raw gas, but they only dispense in season and even then, only to boats in the water.

32 posted on 12/28/2011 5:50:50 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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