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Dad's "weird" text message referred to death in Grapevine, recipient says (murderer was muslim)
Star-Telegram ^ | Tuesday, Dec. 27, 2011 | Domingo Ramirez and Aman Batheja

Posted on 12/29/2011 8:42:12 AM PST by ME-262

Edited on 12/29/2011 9:20:22 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GRAPEVINE -- A conflicted picture emerged Tuesday of a Colleyville man believed to have fatally shot six people, including his estranged wife and two children, and then himself on Christmas morning.

One woman who was part of a happy hour group that included Aziz "Bob" Yazdanpanah described him as a sweet joker who adored his family.

But another said she received a puzzling text message from him on Dec. 4, a few months after his wife and two children moved out of their Colleyville home and into a Grapevine apartment complex.

The shootings occurred inside the apartment amid opened Christmas gifts, police said.

The message, the friend said, went like this: “What do u call a guy who’s born in Austin and grows up in Dallas and then dies in Grapevine? ......... DEAD."

"He was always telling a joke," said the friend, who asked that her name not be used because she doesn't want to get involved in the tragedy. "But when he sent me this, I thought it was weird. I didn't even respond."

Yazdanpanah had attended several happy hours at a Colleyville restaurant with the two women and others in the past six months.

"He was just a sweet man," said Colleen Gedrose of Bedford. "He was outgoing, kind and adored his children."

Gedrose said Tuesday that Yazdanpanah didn't talk about problems with his family.

"I never saw him angry," she said.

On Christmas morning, police said, a middle-aged man dressed as Santa Claus fatally shot two men and four women and then himself inside a unit at the Lincoln Vineyard Apartments. Police said the attack was planned.

Police have yet to identify any of the victims, but various friends and neighbors said Yazdanpanah was believed to be the gunman.

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Baum said the family was Muslim but celebrated Christmas as a cultural holiday. The parents were originally from Iran.

Read more here: www.star-telegram.com


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KEYWORDS: camelhumper; hate; imshockedshocked; islam; muslim
Why am I not surprised?
1 posted on 12/29/2011 8:42:25 AM PST by ME-262
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To: ME-262

Satan must love muslims.


2 posted on 12/29/2011 8:43:45 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Satan must love muslims.

He hates them as much as he hates us. They're just very useful.

3 posted on 12/29/2011 8:48:50 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: ME-262

Nothing to see here - just move along.....


4 posted on 12/29/2011 8:49:05 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: ME-262; Admin Moderator

I knew you must have made up that headline. No way the MSM would be so politically uncorrect.

Now the questions is.. Why?


5 posted on 12/29/2011 8:51:13 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: ME-262

It sounds like the being Muslim part was secondary to the being left by his wife part.

Divorce is a travesty and should not be encouraged.


6 posted on 12/29/2011 8:53:26 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ME-262

7 posted on 12/29/2011 8:54:05 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ME-262

Color me surprised.

The ultimate F U. Dress up in a Santa outfit and kill innocent kids celebrating Christmas.

Wow, what a guy.


8 posted on 12/29/2011 8:54:11 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: ME-262

No where does the article say the guy was muslim.

It say the guys marriage was falling part.
Maybe he was muslim, but can we stick to the facts?


9 posted on 12/29/2011 8:55:13 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: yldstrk

He probably blamed it on the infidels and saw fit for an infidel to pay the price.


10 posted on 12/29/2011 8:55:30 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ME-262
“Grapevine gunman is described as protective, conservative”

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/27/3620614/grapevine-gunman-is-described.html#storylink=cpy

This was the Star Telegram headlines a couple days ago.

11 posted on 12/29/2011 8:55:50 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: ME-262
Shooter called 911 and said: "I am shooting people."

kxan.com

(They don't report whether he uttered "alla akbar".)
12 posted on 12/29/2011 8:56:14 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: ME-262
Related article

Texas Christmas Honor Killings: Mass Murderer Didn’t Want Daughter Dating Non-Muslim

13 posted on 12/29/2011 8:57:07 AM PST by opentalk
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To: ME-262

The family is Persian (i.e. Iran) in origin. I was surprised to learn in recent years that Persians in general (outside of the radical mullahs & their followers) are very tolerant of other religions and cultures, and often go out of their way to demonstrate this by adopting many of the cultural traditions of the country where they live.

We had a Persian Muslim family across the street from us when we first moved to our current house. Every Christmas they decorated their house, and they even wrapped a cross in Christmas lights and put it in a prominent place in their front yard. Some of the nicest people on our street at the time, and we were sorry to see them move away.

I learned this also through the various Persians that have come to the English conversation class I teach — of all Muslims, they are by far the most relaxed around Christians.

Obviously (to me, anyway), this fellow had stability issues beyond his religion, but I expect he used his religion to rationalize what he ultimately did to his family.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 8:57:46 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: mylife
The article says: the family was Muslim
15 posted on 12/29/2011 8:58:03 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Who was the infidel that died? Thought he killed his muslim family, ohm and BTW, were these people converts or from the Middle East?


16 posted on 12/29/2011 8:58:25 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ME-262

My mistake.


17 posted on 12/29/2011 8:59:10 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Jeez - it only gets worse. Here I am complaining about the FReeper making up his own headline. And now I see he posted a two day old story in Breaking News?

Oh well.


18 posted on 12/29/2011 9:01:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I too have the impression that Iranians are the most likely to assimilate here. I suppose that has much to do with the masses that came here following the Islamic Revolution in 1979, and family that were chain immigrated subsequently.


19 posted on 12/29/2011 9:03:15 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (MERRY CHRISTMAS to the ACLU)
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To: yldstrk

It sounds like the being Muslim part was secondary to the being left by his wife part.


This article is written to achieve that exact result from you.

I have read other articles that quote friends of the gunman’s daughter. They discuss how the father did not like her non-Muslim ways. He did not like her clothing, her friends or her non-Muslim boyfriend. He went through her phone to read her texts.

Whether his primary anger was directed at his wife for divorcing him or his daughter for dating a non-Muslim, his Christmas Day actions reek of Honor Killing to me.


20 posted on 12/29/2011 9:03:29 AM PST by Brent Calvert 03969-030
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To: yldstrk
The guy shooting at cars in the middle of Hollywood shouting Allahu Akbar (according to witnesses) was reportedly having woman problems too.

Its the new media narrative. I guess they were having trouble selling the 'it was racism made him do it' line.

21 posted on 12/29/2011 9:04:21 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Brent Calvert 03969-030

Yep I think you are right


22 posted on 12/29/2011 9:05:10 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Brent Calvert 03969-030

Generally people don’t blow their own brains out in honor killings.


23 posted on 12/29/2011 9:05:30 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The ‘honorable’ ones do.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 9:08:56 AM PST by Brent Calvert 03969-030
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To: mylife

“Protective” fathers don’t generally blow their kids brains out, either.


25 posted on 12/29/2011 9:10:21 AM PST by skeeter
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To: ME-262
celebrated Christmas as a cultural holiday

Ah, yes. The decadent Western culture of buying people gifts and exchanging them on one day. Even Muslims can be seduced by this nod to crass capitalism. Worse, they spend even more money by wrapping the gifts with paper that will no-doubt be in the next day's garbage and the next week's landfill.

No wonder this devout Muslim wanted to stop this activity in its tracks. Wonder if he shaved all his chest hair first?

26 posted on 12/29/2011 9:11:07 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: ME-262

Moslems are committed to a policy of achieving the ultimate goal of global Islamic theocracy, a policy that causes harm to freedom and natural rights and is an affront to reason. Therefore there are few things that can contribute more to world peace than the overthrow and elimination of Islam.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 9:11:53 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: skeeter

true enough.


28 posted on 12/29/2011 9:12:31 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The perp’s name is Aziz “Bob” Yazdanpanah.

The victims were “his estranged wife, Fatemeh Rahmati, who left her husband this year; their children, Nona, 19, and Ali, 15; Fatemeh Rahmati’s sister, Zohreh Rahmaty, 58; her husband, Hossein Zarei, 59; and their daughter, Sahra Zarei, 22.”

At the bottom of the story it says:

“Baum said the separation was very difficult on the family’s father. Baum said the family was Muslim but celebrated Christmas as a cultural holiday. The parents were originally from Iran.”

So we have an Iranian Muzzie family who were allowed to immigrate to the USA because the Feds love Muzzies. Then the family becomes spoiled/contaminated by Western values which are anathema to Islam.

He and his wife started arguing because of the more liberal values she had assimilated while living here and she separated herself from him by taking the children and living in an apartment.

This was a major, major insult to the man’s honor so he did what a good Muzzie man will do when he is dishonored - commit an honor murder against all of those involved.

This is yet another fine example of the ‘blessing’ of Islam to this country.


29 posted on 12/29/2011 9:13:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I just pulled this off of the DRUDGEREPORT. Their made up headline was "UPDATE: Killer 'Santa' was a Muslim..."
Sorry you are so disappointed with my post.
30 posted on 12/29/2011 9:15:09 AM PST by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: yldstrk

This is the first time I’ve ever heard of an angry, ex-spouse killing relatives during a holiday.
(sarc)


31 posted on 12/29/2011 9:16:48 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Most Persians will get mad if you call them Arabs.


32 posted on 12/29/2011 9:19:13 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: mylife

They strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up don’t they?


33 posted on 12/29/2011 9:20:08 AM PST by DManA
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To: yldstrk

Infidels were not murdered but women in Islam are valued only slightly above infidels. His wife and daughters taking on Western values and moving away from him made them pretty much coverts to the infidel’s ways therefore rendering them traitors with the resulting judgment being death.

The guy probably grew up in a home that was a little traditional in their Islamic practices. I’m sure he saw honor murders committed by other Muzzie men in Iran.

The problem of Muzzie women who come here and get spoiled by Western ways is a big one for the men in the ummah!


34 posted on 12/29/2011 9:21:25 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A dichotomy for muslims colonizers - how to help Islam take over the world while keeping the wife & kids from slipping the plantation.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 9:25:01 AM PST by skeeter
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To: ME-262
Some more good info from Atlas Shrugs:
More info
36 posted on 12/29/2011 9:29:23 AM PST by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: ME-262

Oh, yeah, real sweet guy who adored his family so much he killed them. Adored them so much he bought a gun because he thought the daughter’s bf was stalking him. Why the heck would the bf stalk him? Crazy thinking. Adored his family so much he wouldn’t let go of the controlling when the daughter became an adult. Maybe his going out to happy hour with women is one of the thousand reasons his wife left him.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 9:32:49 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: ME-262

Sorry you are so disappointed with my post.

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Well, your made up headline and your posting a 2 day old story into Breaking News is disappointing. But as you see - the mods fixed all your errors.

But - I’m hopefull you realize your mistakes - and you’ll do better in the future.


38 posted on 12/29/2011 9:33:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: yldstrk
It sounds like the being Muslim part was secondary to the being left by his wife part.

Well stated.

Is it possible his islamism was a factor? Sure! That entire belief system increases a person's propensity for murder. The divorce could very well be because he didn't approve of his daughter's "western ways".

But because he killed everyone, including his son (I'm assuming Ali is a boy's name) and himself makes me suspect that it was a wish to wipe out the entire family and put himself out of his misery rather than carry out a religious obligation.

39 posted on 12/29/2011 9:39:09 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Brent Calvert 03969-030
He went through her phone to read her texts.

1) don't text

2) if you must text, delete it

3) same rules apply to voice mail, email, IM and all other such forms

40 posted on 12/29/2011 9:43:23 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: mylife

This isn’t the ME. He knew he wasn’t going to be praised for honor killing them in the US. Better to kill himself than get the death penalty or life in prison with Big Bubba as his cellmate.


41 posted on 12/29/2011 9:46:31 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I work with an Iranian that celebrated Christmas. He is very tolerant of others and is outspoken(to me) about radical islam. He was born a muslim but is the nicest guy. He wouldn’t hurt a fly. And he’s the best employee we have.


42 posted on 12/29/2011 9:50:43 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: ME-262

"Yazdanpanah."

43 posted on 12/29/2011 9:54:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: South Hawthorne

According to other interviews and articles, the son Ali would side with the sister. Dad would take away her phone and either the mother or Ali would give it back to her. The son was disobeying the father so he was killed, too. There was no greater statement he could make against the western Christian world than to dress up as Saint Nick and murder them all on Christmas Day.


44 posted on 12/29/2011 9:58:08 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: ME-262

I worked with an Iranian woman once....sweetest woman ever!
They really do distinguish themselves from the Arabs.
Too bad Odumbo did not back up the uprising in Iran when they needed our support to be free again!


45 posted on 12/29/2011 10:37:19 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

According to the 911 tape, he said, “Help...help...I am shooting people”
That’s extremely sad and doesn’t sound like your typical honor killing to me.


46 posted on 12/29/2011 11:30:04 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: astratt7
Too bad Odumbo did not back up the uprising in Iran when they needed our support to be free again!
All I can think is Obama wanted the tyrannical and anti-American mullahs to keep control of the nation. Lest the Middle east take a pivotal turn towards western civilization and away from Islamic backwardness.
47 posted on 12/29/2011 1:08:29 PM PST by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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