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Tennessee tourist arrested for bringing pistol into 9/11 Memorial
nypost.com ^ | 12/29/2011 | JAMIE SCHRAM, C.J. SULLIVAN and DAREH GREGORIAN

Posted on 12/29/2011 11:03:08 AM PST by massmike

A tourist from Tennessee waltzed into one of the most secure sites in the city — and politely asked a cop if she could check her weapon.

Instead, she was dragged out in cuffs.

Now, Meredith Graves, 39, is facing at least three years in prison for thinking New York’s gun laws are anything like those in the Bible Belt.

Graves, a fourth-year medical student, showed up at the memorial on Dec. 22 to pay her respects during a trip north for a job interview.

She didn’t realize that the loaded .32-caliber pistol in her purse would be a problem until she saw a sign at the site that read, “No guns allowed,” sources said.

“She remembered she had the gun on her,” a source said. She walked up to a security guard and said, “I have this gun. Where can I check it?”

The guard told her that she was in luck because of “law enforcement day” — and led her to another area.

When she got to that section, she asked another cop, “We have this gun — can we check it in here? We [my husband and I] are not law-enforcement.”

That’s when she was arrested.

Graves, who has a full legal carry permit in Tennessee, was locked up on a weapons-possession charge and held on $2,000 bond that she posted yesterday. She is due in court on March 19.

She’ll soon find out exactly how serious New York City is about illegal guns. The Manhattan DA’s Office is pursuing a conviction on felony gun possession — carrying a minimum sentence of 3 1/2 years.

Mayor Bloomberg, with the help of the five district attorneys, has crusaded against the flow of illegal guns, especially from the South.

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1 posted on 12/29/2011 11:03:15 AM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

And she was gonna’ be a doctor ?


2 posted on 12/29/2011 11:04:47 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: massmike

A tourist from Tennessee waltzed into one of the most secure sites in the city — and politely asked a cop if she could check her weapon.

Instead, she was dragged out in cuffs.
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It wasnt a nice thing to do to Nana


3 posted on 12/29/2011 11:05:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: maine yankee

She’s in big trouble. Bloomberg is not gun friendly.


4 posted on 12/29/2011 11:06:27 AM PST by y6162
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To: massmike

That was a gross over-reaction on the part of NYPD and the rent-a-cop. Looks like another good reason for those of us in the Bible belt to avoid NYC, as if we needed one.


5 posted on 12/29/2011 11:07:48 AM PST by LifePath
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To: y6162

Time for another court case to take to the Supremes.


6 posted on 12/29/2011 11:09:46 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: massmike

A responsible CHL holder checks the laws in the State to which they are traveling before they leave.

When I went to NY a month ago I KNEW I couldn’t carry my gun. I didn’t even need to check the laws.


7 posted on 12/29/2011 11:12:13 AM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: massmike

For someone so bright, she is awfully stupid. First rule of traveling with your gun, know the laws of the state you are traveling to.

When my mother got a CCW because she travels, I made simple summaries of what she could and could not do, how do carry, if the CCW was reciprocated in that state, dealing with the common Indian reservations she goes through and which ones to avoid, etc. and made her a booklet. I update it for her every year, even though most times I now drive her.


8 posted on 12/29/2011 11:13:18 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: massmike

I’m sorry but this lady is just incredibly obtuse. Any gun owner who doesn’t know about New York City’s horrible gun laws is simply pitiful!


9 posted on 12/29/2011 11:14:15 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: massmike
Doh!


10 posted on 12/29/2011 11:15:02 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<0> - - -)
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To: massmike

why do people want to volunteer info about their own personal firearms like this? KEEP YOU STUPID MOUTH SHUT


11 posted on 12/29/2011 11:15:28 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: massmike

12 posted on 12/29/2011 11:15:47 AM PST by Theoria
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To: massmike
Felony gun possession from the people's republic of New York will keep this woman from practicing as a physician. It may keep her from writing prescriptions for her patients and may even prevent her from obtaining a license.

There is absolutely no reason for someone from the South to go to New York.

13 posted on 12/29/2011 11:16:16 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: massmike

The reaction by New York officials seems extreme. She should pay her bail then go back to her home state requiring New York to apply for extradition-which they will not do. The governor of her home state would not send her back to New York even if New York requested it.


14 posted on 12/29/2011 11:18:16 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: LifePath

Looks like it’s worse to carry a gun than to kill someone with it.

Terror keeps the people in line.


15 posted on 12/29/2011 11:18:34 AM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: vetvetdoug
There is absolutely no reason for someone from the South ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND to go to New York.

There! Fixed it!

16 posted on 12/29/2011 11:19:30 AM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike
Graves, who has a full legal carry permit in Tennessee, was locked up on a weapons-possession charge

Article IV, Section 1, also amendment the 2nd. Plus, she did not show intent to cause any harm.

Under the law, however, she is presumed guilty and will never be innocent again...

17 posted on 12/29/2011 11:20:01 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It certainly was a stupid thing to do, but clearly this woman was not a threat to anyone.

Now, thanks to NYC's idiotic firearms laws, she will like do more jail time than most real career criminals in New York.

One of the responsibilities of having a CCW permit is knowing the laws of states and countries to which you travel, and taking care to obey them. I hope she gets a good lawyer.

18 posted on 12/29/2011 11:23:03 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Eaker

Yer a smart feller!

This lady sounds like a dimwit.


19 posted on 12/29/2011 11:23:42 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<0> - - -)
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To: Eaker

Of course, you are entirely correct in your estimation and actions which are in keeping with what responsible people do. Sometimes you wonder about so-called smart people.


20 posted on 12/29/2011 11:26:48 AM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: maine yankee
And she was gonna’ be a doctor ?

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"Hi everybody!"

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21 posted on 12/29/2011 11:26:56 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

That’s an interesting tactic. If the feds pass the CCW bill, would that make her arrest moot? If not, I wouldn’t want to be be her with an arrest warrant out if she travels to other states and gets stopped for something. She’s screwed.


22 posted on 12/29/2011 11:27:23 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Vote 'em out!)
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To: reaganaut

There’s smart and then book smart and I think she is probably the latter.


23 posted on 12/29/2011 11:29:08 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: massmike

If you don’t care for culture in general or music or the arts or sports or great food then there is no reason to go just stay home and watch tv.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 11:29:23 AM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: smokingfrog

High praise coming from a frog!

;<)


25 posted on 12/29/2011 11:31:37 AM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: massmike

Two can play:

They should pass a law in Tennesee that says

(1) that any person, including law enforcement or mayors,

(2) who arrests, prosecutes, or convicts a Tennesee concealed handgun licenese holder for a weapons violation when said CHL holder, if a concealed license holder in that state, would otherwise be legally in possession of the weapon;

(3) commits a felony against the People of the State of Tennesee punishable by no less that 20 years in prison, no possibility of parole.


26 posted on 12/29/2011 11:32:25 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Eaker

She was effectively turning her gun over to law enforcement. There is still an active Gun Buyback program in NYC. If a Gangbanger was turning in a probable murder weapon he’d do it with no questions asked. She has a 14th Amendment case here.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 11:34:20 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massmike

Silly lady, thought she lived in a free country.


28 posted on 12/29/2011 11:36:26 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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NRA where are you?. The Second Amendment is clear. This case should be fought all the way to the Supreme Court. What happens if she goes home and simply fails to return to NY for a court hearing? Surely Tennessee authorities would not extradite her. Or would they?


29 posted on 12/29/2011 11:39:39 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: andy58-in-nh
She is obtuse enough to be looking for a job there.

There isn't enough money in the world to get me anywhere near NYC.

30 posted on 12/29/2011 11:40:30 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
There isn't enough money in the world to get me anywhere near NYC.

I wouldn't mind visiting, but I wouldn't want to live there.

31 posted on 12/29/2011 11:41:47 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: massmike

It was stupid of her to assume. All I can say to her is to get a good lawyer or she will be facing jail time.


32 posted on 12/29/2011 11:43:53 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: massmike

Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.


33 posted on 12/29/2011 11:44:06 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: massmike

Now she may lose her right to carry in Tennessee. Depending on the charges. New York’s unconstitutional Sullivan Law has been in effect for damn near a century.
What a Maroon!


34 posted on 12/29/2011 11:44:30 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: arrogantsob

We have culture, excellent music, awesome food, plenty of sports professional and college, we do not have broadway, but we have the arts. NYC needs to be reminded on occasion that it is nolonger the center of the universe.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 11:45:35 AM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: arrogantsob
If you don’t care for culture in general or music or the arts or sports or great food then there is no reason to go just stay home and watch tv.

Last time I checked,I could find all that in Boston....

36 posted on 12/29/2011 11:48:21 AM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

New York’s a fun city to visit - and also has enormous photographic potential. I’ve taken some great shots in Central Park and along the rivers. But I wouldn’t live there now for all the money in the world. With his fetish for lifestyle laws and social controls, Nanny Bloomberg has turned it into a neo-fascist theme park.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 11:48:44 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I was there for 3 weeks almost 50 years ago. I finished my business and never looked back.

I did carry while I was there but I damned sure didn't tell anyone. I had a .357 double deringer in a boot top holster.

The lady would have been fine if she'd kept her mouth shut!

38 posted on 12/29/2011 11:49:21 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Boy, there are a lot of idiotic posts on this thread. One poster called her a “marone”. Who is the dumb-bell?

The 2nd Amendment trumps state attempts to restrict gun possession. If the NRA takes her case, it may be interesting to watch what New York does to avoid overturning an unconstitutional city and state ‘law’.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 12:09:19 PM PST by mountaineer1997
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To: massmike

I’ve never been a big fan of boycotts, but this is one I could get behind, gun owners should make an issue of this and boycott NY, in a very big way, there were approximately a million and a half guns purchased in December alone, that’s a lot of gun owners, many new owners. I have no reason to go to NY at the moment, but I would be willing to write a letter in support of a boycott, to whom ever in NY would be appropriate. If all gun rights organizations got behind such a movement, it could have an impact.


40 posted on 12/29/2011 12:19:44 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: mountaineer1997
The NRA should be interested - this is clearly a case where a completely innocent, law abiding citizen is being singled out for simple gun possession absent any other crime. She's a model defendant.

If DC v. Heller has any teeth, this would seem to be the test case to challenge NYC.

41 posted on 12/29/2011 12:28:16 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: mountaineer1997
The insanity of the hoplophobes cannot be overestimated.

They are like the people who faint at the sight of blood or spiders, beyond all reason.

Many years ago a couple with 2 boys, about 6 and 8, came in the store for paint. They picked the colors and I was mixing them and talking to the husband. The mother and kids were just looking around. All of a sudden she came charging by dragging a kid in each hand and ran out the door. The husband went after her to see what the problem was.

We had a large display of machetes, cane knives and axes, she saw them and didn't want her sons to see them! The husband actually asked me why we displayed things like that openly.

Can you guess where they were from?

It is just unmitigated Batcrap crazy!

42 posted on 12/29/2011 12:33:17 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: LifePath
That was a gross over-reaction on the part of NYPD and the rent-a-cop. Looks like another good reason for those of us in the Bible belt to avoid NYC, as if we needed one.

I had an apartment in NY city for years and I always carried a snubby 38 {without a NY permit}.

I knew the legal risk, but in the last year I had my place in the city they set a record with 2,000 + gun murders in the city.

I decided that carrying was worth the legal risk.

The last time I was in the city I was carrying {went to see the Rocketts at Christmas a few years ago, had dinner and went to ground zero.

I would never go into that hell hole unarmed, and I rarely go back.

I would also not advising using a gun unless it was your absolute last resort to save lives, because you will go to jail.

43 posted on 12/29/2011 12:35:39 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: massmike

Meanwhile bumberg allowed the occupiers to rape,steal property and break multiple laws, nyc is really the theatre of the absurd


44 posted on 12/29/2011 12:39:14 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: massmike

It is a pity that this happened anywhere in these United States. I guess she wasn’t aware she left when she entered NYC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxtdoJN-IIw


45 posted on 12/29/2011 1:45:13 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: massmike

The way I look at it, if my gun is not allowed then I don’t want to be there anyway!


46 posted on 12/29/2011 3:23:11 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: Tennessee Nana
Sorry! it was actually ME.

Maria from Memphis

47 posted on 12/29/2011 3:32:53 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: massmike
The liberals have done this crap all the time and taken to the Supremes, i.e. the Texas privacy laws.

I have gotten so cynical, is she part of a set up to take it to the Supremes....

48 posted on 12/29/2011 3:39:29 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: massmike
The liberals have done this crap all the time and taken to the Supremes, i.e. the Texas privacy laws.

I have gotten so cynical, is she part of a set up to take it to the Supremes....

49 posted on 12/29/2011 3:41:10 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: massmike
The liberals have done this crap all the time and taken to the Supremes, i.e. the Texas privacy laws.

I have gotten so cynical, is she part of a set up to take it to the Supremes....

50 posted on 12/29/2011 3:41:49 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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