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Utica (NY) Police Officers Caught on Tape (Planting drugs?)
Youtube ^ | Jan 2, 2012 | Youtube

Posted on 01/03/2012 10:04:29 AM PST by thefactor

I don't think there are any real articles written about this yet. Seems to have occurred about 11 months ago and is just coming to light. The action occurs at exactly the 1 minute mark.

As many of you know, I'm a cop. I complain about the anti-cop posts and posters, but I also have the responsibility to bring things like this to light. If this went down, this guy needs to be fired and sent to prison. I have also heard that one of the cops is the son-in-law of the new Mayor.


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To: driftdiver
There has to be a component of individual responsibility. I agree the City Leaders are ultimately responsible but there is already a law against planting evidence. If the cop doesn’t pay a criminal and civil penalty there is nothing to stop them.

I agree.

It's the elected District Attorney who decides whether or not to file charges and prosecute the case.

If the electors don't hold him responsible, then no one will.

21 posted on 01/03/2012 1:14:19 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: driftdiver
There has to be a component of individual responsibility. I agree the City Leaders are ultimately responsible but there is already a law against planting evidence. If the cop doesn’t pay a criminal and civil penalty there is nothing to stop them.

I might also add that his 'brother' goons, er, officers also probably knew about his illegal actions and did nothing.

22 posted on 01/03/2012 1:18:48 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Oh it has been. You should see the UPD’s facebook page! Ha. People are going off.


23 posted on 01/03/2012 2:11:35 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Smiley - Clapping
24 posted on 01/03/2012 2:23:16 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: thefactor
LEO’s who betray the public trust like this should pay additional penalties.

Unfortunately they almost always tend to pay a much lesser penalty than any non LEO would caught in similar circumstances.

There is a point of no return - past which an organization built to enforce the law becomes nothing more than an ongoing criminal conspiracy. And those boys in blue look out for their own. By by “their own” they often mean the most reprehensible sort of scum.

25 posted on 01/03/2012 2:26:01 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: thefactor

http://www.wktv.com/news/local/Video-of-Utica-Police-traffic-stop-goes-viral-alleging-drug-planting-UPD-says-watch-the-full-video-136604293.html

UPD says the entire video tells a different story.


26 posted on 01/03/2012 2:50:32 PM PST by Mr.Unique (Very generic, non-offensive, tagline.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Then I hope that is the case. Thanks for that. None of my googling returned that result. Then it just may simply be a case of sloppy evidence handling.


27 posted on 01/03/2012 3:29:17 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

http://www.wktv.com/news/local/FULL-DASHCAM-VIDEO-OF-21111-Utica-traffic-stop-136602198.html

Snippets on youtube NEVER tell the whole story.


28 posted on 01/03/2012 9:02:41 PM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: thefactor

http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x1819707736/As-video-alleges-Utica-police-planted-evidence-chief-responds


29 posted on 01/03/2012 9:02:54 PM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: LaRueLaDue; driftdiver; momtothree; heartwood; qaz123; Ol' Dan Tucker; JustSayNoToNannies; ...

So, now that the whole video is out, have you learned anything about making judgments from edited youtube snippets?

Remember, youtube agitators (many affiliated with libertine organizations like occupy wallstreet and copblock) have an agenda, and they will deliberately edit to push an agenda.

Contrary to what people think, videos do lie, and the camera does not always tell the whole story.


30 posted on 01/03/2012 9:04:19 PM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
So, now that the whole video is out, have you learned anything about making judgments from edited youtube snippets?

Sorry, but the full video is not as clear-cut as you and your Chief would like us to believe.

First, the search was conducted on the extreme left side of the screen. Second, the suspect's jacket blocked most of the view of the search. Third, the cop's left hand was not visible when he placed it inside the pocket, but was when he pulled it out.

I say the cop palmed the evidence going in and exposed it coming out.

Remember, youtube agitators (many affiliated with libertine organizations like occupy wallstreet and copblock) have an agenda, and they will deliberately edit to push an agenda.

And, of course, police officers and their unions don't have an agenda.

Contrary to what people think, videos do lie, and the camera does not always tell the whole story.

Which is why the cops have dashboard cameras in their cars, but arrest people who videotape the cops and charge them with wiretapping?

When Officer Friendly pulls someone over he approaches the car as if every occupant is a hardened cop-killer.

Why should we trust them any more than they trust us?

31 posted on 01/03/2012 11:18:13 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: willamedwardwallace

Video’s don’t lie, they simply show what happened and its up to people to interpret.

People lie, and that includes cops and people who aren’t cops.


32 posted on 01/04/2012 4:08:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Sorry, but the full video is not as clear-cut as you and your Chief would like us to believe.

My chief? (Oh, I get it... ITS A CONSPIRACY!) Actually, the video is pretty clear cut. However, you were called out, and you want to double down on your agenda. I understand. However, be aware that its obvious what you are doing.

First, the search was conducted on the extreme left side of the screen. Second, the suspect's jacket blocked most of the view of the search. Third, the cop's left hand was not visible when he placed it inside the pocket, but was when he pulled it out. I say the cop palmed the evidence going in and exposed it coming out.

IOW: You got caught making a rush to judgment, you are mad that you got called on it, and now you rush to the last refuge of the internet... "ITS A CONSPIRACY!"

And, of course, police officers and their unions don't have an agenda.

Collective bargaining is illegal for public employees in many states. You know that right? In any case, your argument is pretty sad. Its one thing to point out an agenda when an EDITED snippet of a video is released by the NAACP. The police department released the entire unedited video. If the NAACP didn't have an agenda, and weren't agitating, why didn't they release the whole thing?

Which is why the cops have dashboard cameras in their cars, but arrest people who videotape the cops and charge them with wiretapping?

Or perhaps the particular state law allows for recording by police, but not the other way around? Then its actually a problem with the law, and not the police.

When Officer Friendly pulls someone over he approaches the car as if every occupant is a hardened cop-killer.

So this is really what your veiled anger is all about? I have news for you, an officer has no idea who it is they are dealing with when they approach a car. So yes, you do approach such an unknown risk with a heightened state of awareness. Funny... people who exercise their second amendment rights are told to do the exact same thing. Same for the military.

What this really boils down to is the entitlement culture and the ITS ALL ABOUT ME mentality that is stroked by the internet and the anti-authority libertines and liberals.

I guess Romans 13 can just be cut out of scripture, right?

Why should we trust them any more than they trust us?

If you can't figure out the logical fallacy in this, then you are beyond help.

33 posted on 01/04/2012 6:57:42 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
I have news for you, an officer has no idea who it is they are dealing with when they approach a car. So yes, you do approach such an unknown risk with a heightened state of awareness. Funny... people who exercise their second amendment rights are told to do the exact same thing. Same for the military.

As I suspected. You are a cop. I know you'll deny it, but your own words betray you. This explains your righteous indignation over your brother officer being accused of planting evidence.

There are two types of cops in this world --those who've been caught in their lies and those who have yet to be caught lying.

34 posted on 01/04/2012 7:45:55 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: willamedwardwallace
I guess Romans 13 can just be cut out of scripture, right?

Romans 13 assumes that the governing authorities are honest. When you find an honest governing authority, please be sure to let us know.

35 posted on 01/04/2012 7:50:44 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: willamedwardwallace

Nothing can be cut. Read the whole Bible and don’t focus on one verse.


36 posted on 01/04/2012 7:54:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
As I suspected. You are a cop. I know you'll deny it, but your own words betray you. This explains your righteous indignation over your brother officer being accused of planting evidence. There are two types of cops in this world --those who've been caught in their lies and those who have yet to be caught lying.

LOL! More libertine foaming at the mouth. And you continue to make assumptions. A textbook example of an internet warrior.

You are desperately trying to deflect from the fact that you got caught in a rush to judgment (lie). It isn't working.

37 posted on 01/04/2012 8:16:39 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
You are desperately trying to deflect from the fact that you got caught in a rush to judgment (lie). It isn't working.

I'm not the one defending the cop who got caught on video planting evidence.

38 posted on 01/04/2012 8:25:24 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Unfortunately, I can’t see how Romans 13 makes that assumption. The Roman goverment in Judea/Palestine was notoriously corrupt, and extremely hostile to first Jews, then in turn to Christians. Revolts and rebellions were commonplace throughout the region, so Paul’s comments here are difficult to understand except as divinely inspired Scripture. I know some will say that he was a Roman citizen, so he was a Rome-bot, in modern parlance; or alternately that he was so afraid of death, that he could do nothing other than support Rome in writing... but that ignores the divinely inspired nature of Scripture, IMHO. BTW, I would love to make the assumption you state, I just don’t see how it is warranted.


39 posted on 01/04/2012 9:25:03 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: willamedwardwallace
"Minutes before Paladino enters the rear passenger side of the vehicle, the footage shows him removing similar looking baggies from the pockets of handcuffed suspect Grady Jones, 51. [...] The shorter controversial segment of the footage, Williams said, actually shows Paladino later removing those same baggies of marijuana from his pocket so that he could separate them in the backseat of Jones’ vehicle."

Why would he need to separate them? And why would the back seat of the suspects' vehicle be the place to do that? This still smells very fishy.

40 posted on 01/04/2012 10:25:52 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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