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Electrical socket concept forcibly ejects plugs of inactive appliances and devices
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Posted on 01/04/2012 5:03:08 AM PST by DemforBush

Unplugging each and every appliance and device not in use can be a pain, but it's something you must do if you don't want to pay for standby power — or the energy consumed by electronics while they're switched off. Right now you can use a power strip to make unplugging easier, but if PumPing Tap's designers ever bring their product to market, you don't have to worry about unplugging at all...

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To: SumProVita
I saved thirty bucks a month by unplugging all appliances that were not being used.
Most home appliances use power when off. You can buy a tester at Lowes
that will tell you how much power is being consumed either on or off.

This little gadget is handy to find whats eating up a power bill.
I use it to quick test equipment also. You might be
surprised how much power a toaster uses just being plugged in.

51 posted on 01/04/2012 6:25:03 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: whd23

If you have a desktop computer with all the peripherals I think the $35 power strip will pay for itself. Likewise if you have an older, less efficient, flatscreen TV plus the cable box, DVD player, etc.


52 posted on 01/04/2012 6:25:15 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SumProVita

That 10% number might be right if you have a gas stove, gas dryer, gas hot water heater, and gas heat.


53 posted on 01/04/2012 6:26:07 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: SumProVita

This is pretty amusing. It means that

1. You won’t be able to turn on anything by a remote control, because it will be unplugged. You’ll have to plug in your TV, etc, every time you want to watch it.

2. Forget anything with a built-in clock, or timer that’s supposed to turn something on (like a coffee maker). The power consumption of those electronics is indistinguishable from the ‘standby’ power that causes the plug to eject.

3. Don’t try to charge any battery-operated device with its wall-wart charger. The proposed plug device will not be able to reliably sense the difference between moderate-to-small operating and charging current and true standby condition of the portable device.

I wonder how much extra energy this gadget itself consumes, and what it will cost to buy and replace when it breaks.

By the way, the illustration shows a European plug. Figures.


54 posted on 01/04/2012 6:30:15 AM PST by Erasmus (Rage, rage, against the dying of the light. Or, get out your 50mm/1.2.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
It's about 10% of total power usage now.

All electric energy dissipates as heat. Anytime the outside temperature is less than 70F standby power helps reduce your heating bill.

55 posted on 01/04/2012 6:31:55 AM PST by Reeses (TV gives men a window into what women want, and it isn't pretty.)
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To: BfloGuy
I think the British have the right solution -- each outlet has an on/off switch.

Those smart outlets consume power. It may be less than the appliance's standby power, but it is there.

56 posted on 01/04/2012 6:37:53 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Erasmus

Good post and I agree. The lack of common sense among liberals is reaching the point of becoming a joke.

AND ... precisely because we question whether something like this is good, they will often assume that conservatives do not believe in being good stewards of the wonderful resources God has given us. (shaking head)


57 posted on 01/04/2012 6:39:20 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Straight Vermonter
If you have a desktop computer with all the peripherals I think the $35 power strip will pay for itself. Likewise if you have an older, less efficient, flatscreen TV plus the cable box, DVD player, etc.

At my current electrical rate, that $35 power strip represents 27W of stand-by power for 20 hours a day, 365 days a year for one year. Not worth the hassle.

58 posted on 01/04/2012 6:42:14 AM PST by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: MaxMax

Did you analyze in detail where your 200+ watts were going?


59 posted on 01/04/2012 6:43:27 AM PST by Erasmus (Rage, rage, against the dying of the light. Or, get out your 50mm/1.2.)
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To: Fresh Wind
"For you to be able to turn it on with the remote, the circuitry which does that is always running, waiting for you to push the button on the remote".

You can minimize this with a SmartStip (or equivalent) powerstrip. There is a control pot on the strip where you plug in the "master" appliance, in this case a TV. The TV always gets power, but the rest of the strip is turned off until you turn on the TV. When it senses that the TV is drawing full power it turns on the rest of the stack. In case you have some other "always on" devices thaere are a couple of "always hot" pots on the strip that are left out of the smart circuit. I've got on on my TV and one on my computer. They save bucks.

On the other hand, sockets that "eject" plugs are the stupidest idea I've heard of in a while.

60 posted on 01/04/2012 6:43:53 AM PST by jboot
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To: Reeses

Yes but in the summer it raises your cooling cost so there is no gain there at all.


61 posted on 01/04/2012 6:45:32 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: DemforBush

HEY ENVIRO-JERKOFFS!!!!!

Its MY electricity! I pay for it!

Don’t tell me how much I can use or waste!


62 posted on 01/04/2012 6:54:46 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erasmus
I unplugged everything in the kitchen, blender, toaster, mixer. Then I found
my space heater in the corner that was forgotten under the table. Other things
in rooms that weren't being used like clocks and window units.

It all added up when I tested the usage and wrote it down. I've since
moved but I still like ele bills under 100 bucks.

63 posted on 01/04/2012 6:55:40 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: whd23
At my current electrical rate, that $35 power strip represents 27W of stand-by power for 20 hours a day, 365 days a year for one year. Not worth the hassle.

Just your TV set top can use up to 52w while inactive. It may not be worth cutting the electric bill for some; others may prefer to spend less. Around here we pay $0.14/kwh so it does add up. For me that one Dish Network box is $62 per year. Plus the TV. Plus the Wii. Plus the DVD player. Plus the modem and router.

64 posted on 01/04/2012 7:06:43 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: MaxMax

“You might be surprised how much power a toaster uses just being plugged in.”

How so? Turning it off disables the circuit. It has no clock or anything else drawing current.


65 posted on 01/04/2012 7:32:59 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Straight Vermonter

My basic set top box (no DVR) draws about 15 watts. My power is expensive, but per month, that device costs me less than $2 to have on all the time, and I don’t have to wait a half hour for it to fully reload before using it (as I would if it was turned off).

That’s a drop in the bucket compared to what I pay Comcrap for the joy of having it.


66 posted on 01/04/2012 7:43:17 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

I should have said $2 per month.


67 posted on 01/04/2012 7:47:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Just your TV set top can use up to 52w

That's .00728 cents and we will have to spend how much to save it? I'm conservative in more ways than politics, my electric bill was $65 last month. I turn off lights when I'm not in the room, I hang clothes on the line, when I turn something on, etc.

68 posted on 01/04/2012 7:53:06 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: 5thGenTexan; BfloGuy
I think the British have the right solution -- each outlet has an on/off switch.

Those smart outlets consume power. It may be less than the appliance's standby power, but it is there.

What's smart about a dumb old rocker switch? Press for on, press for off.


69 posted on 01/04/2012 7:57:15 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Yes but in the summer it raises your cooling cost so there is no gain there at all.

In NJ cooling is needed less than 20% of the year so standby power heating helps more than it hurts. Many of these energy saving calculations are accurate only for southern climates.

70 posted on 01/04/2012 8:00:08 AM PST by Reeses (TV gives men a window into what women want, and it isn't pretty.)
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To: Malsua; driftdiver; tophat9000
Got a stupit... question. Do you have a switch dedicated to turn on/off each plug receptacle?

Do you mean “turn off the breaker” to wall plug? That would not be a good idea as it will prematurely damage the breaker and the breaker probably is overload protection for several receptacle together.

71 posted on 01/04/2012 8:23:45 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Fresh Wind

“That 10% number might be right if you have a gas stove, gas dryer, gas hot water heater, and gas heat.”

Again, HOW so? What data are you using to make such a speculation?


72 posted on 01/04/2012 8:51:39 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
I have serious doubts about the 10% ... and I'm not alone.

I am with you. There is NO way standby power consumption is 10%.

73 posted on 01/04/2012 8:56:29 AM PST by sand88
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To: chris37
Good, I like LEDs, they help me see at night when it’s all dark.

LED = Little Electronic Doohicky

74 posted on 01/04/2012 9:02:28 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: X-spurt

Not the breaker, a switch. Just saying that physically unplugging the device is a primitive solution.


75 posted on 01/04/2012 9:02:48 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chris37

Naturally, they’ve anticipated that. They’ll pass a LAW requiring them, in addition the thousands of other absurdities foisted on everyone in the last 80 years or so.

At one time (pre FDR, perhaps) Washington was at least honest enough (if stupid) to realize that they, and the states, had to amend the constitution of the U.S.A. in order to ban liquor, wine, and beer.

Today? Heck, light bulbs, shower heads, toilets, smoking in bars, the Easter Bunny, no matter.


76 posted on 01/04/2012 9:08:08 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Straight Vermonter

10%?

Not a chance. A tenth of a percent? Yes. Currently (no pun intended, and probably only until the collectivists find out) electricity at the residential level is often less expensive after a certain number of kilowatt hours is consumed.


77 posted on 01/04/2012 9:15:07 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: SumProVita

There are tons of appliances that ‘vampire’ power while in the ‘off’ mode. VCR’s used to be major culprits, but ‘set-top’ boxes are a common user of power. Microwave ovens, stereos, computers and monitors in ‘sleep’ mode, etc.

That all being said, a mechanical ejection device for a plug? The only way that’s going to be a marketplace hit is if the thing is forced on us by Obamulan the Fascist and Big Sis.

I don’t want to hijack a thread here, but has anyone noticed that nobody’s using the ‘F’ word, even though you’ve had a rapid spawn of government controlled companies in the last five years? From the banks and insurance companies in 2008, to GM, Chrysler, and then Solyndra, et. al.

It’s the very definition of the word fascism - state controlled enterprises.


78 posted on 01/04/2012 9:31:48 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: MaxMax

I just checked our toaster with the Kill-A-Watt.

When OFF it consumes zero current. Nothing. I am not surprised.

It’s a Sunbeam, from the 1950s (no more crap appliances in this household)

It was high-tech for the time. There’s no lever, the weight of the bread installed sends it down the slot for toasting. I suspect Toast itself will have to be marginalized and demonized in society, as their simply is no “green” method of making it, e.g. Microwave, Windmills, Rainbows, etc.

I mean really. Think of the carbon footprint - the fossil fuels - the infrastructure required, the strip mining, the dead Unicorns required - just to darken a piece bread sufficiently to spread butter and jam around on it.

No! This HAS GOT TO STOP!!


79 posted on 01/04/2012 9:31:48 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: SumProVita

What I’m saying, indirectly, is that if all of your heavy energy loads are gas rather than electric, then the standby load of remaining electrical appliances and devices does come a lot closer to this alleged 10% number.

As soon as you run a load of wash through your electric dryer, that 10% number goes out the window. Same for the summer months with A/C running.

The standby load of my computer and peripherals, and my entertainment stuff is less that 100 watts, and maybe 250 watts when all the stuff is running. Apart from my electric range and dryer, all that’s left is the fridge, and lighting (assuming real light bulbs). On average, that stuff might well put me up to around 1000 watts, and probably not even that much.

Regardless of the actual number, the actual cost of this standby load is basically not enough to worry about.


80 posted on 01/04/2012 9:32:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Freedom4US
I only give a crap about MY electric bill. I could care less what others think.
Save the planet, fine, just stay out of my house.
81 posted on 01/04/2012 10:23:05 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Freedom4US

I had a toaster oven with a clock/timer until it broke.


82 posted on 01/04/2012 10:25:12 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: BfloGuy
I think the British have the right solution -- each outlet has an on/off switch.

Don't know about the Brits but there is a commercial with a Japanese family having a quiet evening meal when the son goes into a heavy metal riff on his amplified guitar in his bedroom. The father walks down the hall, opens the door and flips a switch on the faceplate of the floor outlet, restoring peace and quiet while he finishes his meal with a smile. The kid remains clueless. I love the look on dad's face.

Regards,
GtG

83 posted on 01/04/2012 10:32:30 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: DemforBush
Sensors on the socket determine whether a device is on and actively drawing electricity, with an external light indicator turning blue if it is or red if it's not. Ten minutes after it pinpoints an inactive gadget, a built-in spring mechanism (which the designers liken to a toaster) pops up to unplug it. It's a pretty straightforward design that aims to curb unnecessary energy use.

So the red & blue indicator lights are therefore a "necessary" energy use? Put me down for the "annoyed" side please.

Regards,
GtG

84 posted on 01/04/2012 10:41:43 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I can just see it now with everyone duct taping their fixtures to the wall after these soon to be government mandates.


85 posted on 01/04/2012 12:02:17 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: MaxMax

Of course, the dirty little secret is, it’s not really about “saving the planet”, it’s about control. Concern about “the environment” is used as a club to work people over and guilt them into all sorts of absurdities. You’re naive to think “they” are going to stay out of your house. Your toilet, your showerhead, your lightbulbs are already subject to federal regs. Ditto for local code requirements, etc.

SUPPOSEDLY, the base load requirement for power generation has increased in heavily populated areas because of all the AC-DC wall wart adapters and other vampire loads present in the home, enough where bean counters suggest that reducing these loads would hel delay or prevent the necessity of building more power plants, along with the concurrent bond issues to pay for them.

Electricity, though, despite dewy eyed childrens public service admonitions to the contrary, cannot be “saved”; it is either consumed, or not. This is one of the reasons the “greens” War on Coal is so fantastically stupid. The base level requirement in any civilized society is enormous, and constant, it cannot now, and never will be met with alternatives like wind or solar.


86 posted on 01/04/2012 1:04:47 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: DemforBush

iow all new home owners will spend a fortune UN installing them with normal outlets.

can we add a surcharge tax to environmental groups? its for the children...


87 posted on 01/04/2012 1:22:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Fresh Wind

I thought those in congress were too busy looking for new red sequin cowboy hats and trying to figure out where the astronaughts put the flag on mars...


88 posted on 01/04/2012 2:05:47 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bmwcyle

You can buy the good ones on the black market.

just flush four times even if you don’t need to.


89 posted on 01/04/2012 2:10:05 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: driftdiver

Unless there is already a switch controlling the receptacle, adding one to the circuit will either be ugly or not easy. Power strip is easiest solution.


90 posted on 01/04/2012 5:51:20 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: DemforBush

http://www.kussmaul.com/091-159.html

Kussmaul auto-eject plug as used on vehicles. They work good most of the time except when they don’t and you rip the shore line out of the ceiling.


91 posted on 01/04/2012 5:58:35 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Fresh Wind
The TV is using much less power than it would when the screen is lit up, but it’s still using power. The same applies to computers, printers, monitors, microwave ovens, etc. etc. etc.

Do as I have, and buy one of those gadgets that measure the amount of electricity used by an appliance etc.

What I've found, by actual, careful, measurement, all of the computers, printers, TVs, whatever you have, use less than $10 of electricity per year, all COMBINED.

Not enough to pay for even one disconnect gadget.

92 posted on 01/04/2012 6:17:03 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I needed to include ‘when on standby’.


93 posted on 01/04/2012 6:18:52 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Freedom4US
What really is worrisome is that the next generation will be so instituted in the propaganda that they will be even more fanatical than this one.
I hear kids in their homes challenging their parents about being green and planet saviors.
I can't say a word and most of the time neither do the parents by correcting the kid
because they're to busy to keep up on the current jargon filtering into the brats mushy brains.

Americans have a chance to stop this but it will take leadership with major balls
big enough to ignore the status quo MSM, then fire the EPA down to a box sized office
in a cold damp basement near a graveyard.


In the mean time all I, and guessing others can do is financially support
those who claim they will throw out the bureaucracy with the bath water
with the same fortitude as the RATs who invented this fiasco.

/Salute

94 posted on 01/04/2012 6:38:04 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Nervous Tick

“dropped democrats off at the pool”

LOL


95 posted on 01/04/2012 6:52:15 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: dead

Honestly, dead, I thought the same thing until I tried an experiment last summer and unplugged almost everything until I wanted to use it.

Unplugging each device took only a second, and now I don’t even think about it while unplugging the coffee maker and microwave. Of course, things like media and hard-to-reach cords stayed plugged in.

The following month, I was shocked to find I’d saved almost $50 on my bill and the savings have remained consistent. My house is somewhat large and although the upstairs is totally devoid of furnishings, there were lamps and TV’s and VCR’s, and all manner of little devices plugged in downstairs that were seldom if ever in use. These can really add up!


96 posted on 01/06/2012 7:21:24 AM PST by floralamiss ("The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage." Thucydides)
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