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Mark, Rush, Sean Okay, Then What now? - Vanity

Posted on 01/05/2012 12:46:15 PM PST by SMGFan

I heard Mark Levin last night. I heard Rush Limbaugh today. I am hearing Sean Hannity. They were discussing Obama non-recess appointments. Who else have "you" listened to today? I have been waiting for what is supposed to be done about this situation and is possible I missed something? They have pointed out how wrong it was, unconstitutional etc but okay , what now? That is besides fuming , and getting angry and holding our breathe until November.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: levin; limbaugh; nonrecess; obama; recess

1 posted on 01/05/2012 12:46:20 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Their appointments are good only until the next Congress, anyway. Don’t get all worried over trivial crap like this.............


2 posted on 01/05/2012 12:48:57 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: SMGFan

Inching closer to the real purpose of the Second Amendment.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 12:49:58 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: SMGFan

I personally think Republicans should shut down the House and Senate tighter than a drum and not bring up as much as the naming of the Podunk Post Office until these appointments are reversed. But the Republicans don’t have the testicular fortitude for anything like that, they might look “bad” so I’m guessing they will do what they have been doing, issue strongly worded statements and moan about it on TV.


4 posted on 01/05/2012 12:51:37 PM PST by apillar
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To: SMGFan
I listened, and got depressed. I turned it off.

Then I remembered past times when the "conservative media" went beserk over something Obama did, or said he was going to do, and it turned out to be hype over nothing.

Sadly, the conservative media isn't any more trustworthy than the MSM. Big surprise, right?

5 posted on 01/05/2012 12:52:01 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SMGFan

You can not have recess appointments when congress is not in recess.
However, if congress wont do anything about it, nothing is to be done. The ball is in their court, and apparently they don’t care the president is operating under the rule of dictatorship.


6 posted on 01/05/2012 12:53:19 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: SMGFan
There was a cool vanity about one alternative....
 
 
Should Boehner Turn Off Camera's for Obama's 'SOU' Unless Appointments Rescinded ? (Vanity)
5 Jan 2011 | 11th_VA

Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:08:41 AM by 11th_VA

Does Boehner have the guts to make a public announcement he won't televise the 'State of the Union' unless the President rescinds the illegal recess appointments? Does he even care about the Constitution?



7 posted on 01/05/2012 12:53:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: SMGFan
It is up to congress to handle this. We have this dude running things. Do you expect him to show some spine and fight this?


8 posted on 01/05/2012 12:53:32 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Steely Tom

This issue is not hype.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 12:54:53 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw
This issue is not hype.

If you say so.

I'll commence running around in a circle and screaming at the top of my lungs.

10 posted on 01/05/2012 12:56:56 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SMGFan

It seems as though whatever Obama does it is fine with the Republicans in congress, sometimes they get a little whiny, but that’s about the extent of it, nothing new same ole, same ole.


11 posted on 01/05/2012 12:59:10 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SMGFan
I just thought of the one thing that Republicans can call for:

Demand that these appointees go before confirmation hearings anyway.

If Obama is going to taunt them with non-recess recess appointments, then the Republicans should declare that they are not in recess, but now that Obama has forwarded the names to Congress, Senate confirmation hearings will begin in a few weeks.

Put it back on Obama and Reid now.

And it's all within reasonable bounds of decorum.

-PJ

12 posted on 01/05/2012 12:59:19 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

RAWR!

DAMMIT, I HATE this useless piece of panty waste!!!!! RAWR!


13 posted on 01/05/2012 1:00:03 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: wolfpat

I’d call it almost a head-long rush.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 1:00:46 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Steely Tom

Maybe you should run amok. And if that’s too much trouble, then just walk amok.

Me? I’m too lazy for even that. But I do think amok some times.


15 posted on 01/05/2012 1:02:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: SMGFan
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16 posted on 01/05/2012 1:03:41 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: SMGFan
Dude... NO ONE BUT boehner and mcconnell can do anything about it... and those two feminized cowards will not even step to a microphone or camera to make a statement. ALL INCUMBENTS MUST BE PURGED. There is no one left in DC that can be trusted... that is your problem and not any talk show host.

LLS

17 posted on 01/05/2012 1:04:48 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: Steely Tom

A president can not make recess appointment when congress is not in recess.
This is a serious issue that the congress has decided to let slide, because they are cowards.
BHO violates the Constitution on a daily bases, the more he does without challenge the more he will do.
I beleive it is not hype to point that out.


18 posted on 01/05/2012 1:05:12 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: apillar
Every republican in DC should close up offices and go home until obama agrees to govern instead of rule... but the republicons will not even make a statement... except for senator brown... he endorsed obama’s actions.

LLS

19 posted on 01/05/2012 1:07:09 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: SMGFan

don’t count on Hannity do to anything as he doesn’t want to upset his elitist homosexual loving liberal pals he hangs out with and has on his show.

The man is a fraud but answer to your question.

All talk show hosts need to tell their listeners to call the white house right now, call the GOP and demand they either impeach, stop this dictatorship and defund this new dept.

Also demand that the GOP take on the MSM, call their bias out, and ask them on their channels on live camera why they refuse to tell the truth about their messiah.
Call these lying sacks of crap out for crying out loud.

So long as the dictator knows he has the MSM he will go even further than this


20 posted on 01/05/2012 1:08:27 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Hey, I know! He could have Darrel Issa “launch an investigation”! That’s worked so well in the past...


21 posted on 01/05/2012 1:09:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SMGFan
In the sense that all the conservatives do is talk, you are correct! The left has acted over the last eighty years. The left controls the media, visual arts and organs of mass communication. The left has infiltrated and controls the education of the youth who then grow up to be leftist. The left has disintegrated our society by forming blocs of voters such as their appeal to members of the Third World and women. The left uses money to purchase power. They shamelessly use pity to sway the mob; i.e. reason rarely prevails over the sight of the soulful eyes of a sick puppy. Social and economic egalitarianism are weapons of the left which guarantees the numerous victories they enjoy.

The result of all the aforementioned being the left is in charge. The only fear the left has is the fear of being unable to consolidate and make permanent their hegemony.

22 posted on 01/05/2012 1:09:56 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jeff Head

House Committie can call him to testify. and ask the folling question

Sir are you acquitted with

SEC. 1066. INTERIM AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY.
(a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary is authorized to perform the
functions of the Bureau under this subtitle until the Director of
the Bureau is confirmed by the Senate in accordance with section 1011

Have you Sir been confirmed by the Senate ? If so what was the vote and if not why do you claim to be the Chairman of the Bureau ?


23 posted on 01/05/2012 1:13:02 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: SMGFan
Incremental fundamental transformation WITHOUT representation. We've been had, are being had, and will continue to be had by these criminals in Congress, WH, the courts, the media, etc., etc. We're all socialists criminals now. We'd have to go back to the anti-federalists (pre-Constitution) to understand how far we've descended. The leviathan marches on.
24 posted on 01/05/2012 1:13:29 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Bidimus1

ooops ..

Director, not chairman


25 posted on 01/05/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: manc

Hannity has the power to do what? He is a talk show host, he is not in congress.


26 posted on 01/05/2012 1:17:08 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Red Badger
Don’t get all worried over trivial crap like this...

I work with a mortgage broker, and it's not so trivial when it's your job, or industry, being regulated out of existence.

27 posted on 01/05/2012 1:18:15 PM PST by AnglePark
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To: SMGFan

The reality of the situation is there is nothing to be done immediately. Somethings will eventually get done, when in fact it’s tested in court. Note that not *too* many democrats are sounding off for joy on this. The smart ones know they’ll have to live with this if they let it go.

A President at odds with the lawmakers is bound to break a lot of laws and those chickens will come home to roost on him.

Imagine this: The Elected President isn’t President until certified by the Senate.


28 posted on 01/05/2012 1:20:01 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: SMGFan

The reality of the situation is there is nothing to be done immediately. Somethings will eventually get done, when in fact it’s tested in court. Note that not *too* many democrats are sounding off for joy on this. The smart ones know they’ll have to live with this if they let it go.

A President at odds with the lawmakers is bound to break a lot of laws and those chickens will come home to roost on him.

Imagine this: The Elected President isn’t President until certified by the Senate.


29 posted on 01/05/2012 1:20:05 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: svcw

never said he was, I said he and others should tell his listeners to call their reps over this.

Besides Hannity is a fraud anyway.


30 posted on 01/05/2012 1:23:43 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: SMGFan
Here's all you need from the public policy research arm of the United States Congress ("Congress's think tank").
CONGRESSIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE REPORT TO CONGRESS
[ Updated March 12, 2008, Order Code RS21308, LINK ]
"How Long Must the Senate Be in Recess Before a President May Make a Recess Appointment?"

"The Constitution does not specify the length of time that the Senate must be in recess before the President may make a recess appointment. Over the last century, as shorter recesses have become more commonplace, the Department of Justice has offered differing views on this issue. Most recently, in 1993, a Justice Department brief implied that the President may make a recess appointment during a recess of more than three days. On at least three occasions, the Senate has used procedural tools to prevent the occurrence of a recess of more than three days for the stated purpose of preventing such appointments: the 2007 Thanksgiving holiday period, the period between the first and second sessions of the 110th Congress, and the 2008 Presidents Day holiday period. In each of these cases, the Senate {under Harry Reid} met in pro forma sessions (during which no business was to be conducted) every three or four days over the course of what otherwise would have been a longer Senate recess. The President {Bush} made no recess appointments during these periods."

As usually, it's a case of allowing the Democrats to ignore rules that they held the Republicans to, without Republicans making them pay the price.
31 posted on 01/05/2012 1:28:25 PM PST by drpix
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To: Red Badger

Doesn’t the House control the purse strings? I know what I’d do.........just saying.......!


32 posted on 01/05/2012 1:32:38 PM PST by swampfox101
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To: LibLieSlayer
As I suggested in #12, a less drastic approach that Republicans can take is to first reaffirm that the Congress was NOT in recess, and then state that now that Obama has forwarded his nominees to Congress, confirmation hearings will begin in a few weeks.

Simply treat this "recess" appointment as a forwarding of nominees, and start treating it as business as usual, and not a recess appointment.

If Obama and Reid object, then ask what they're afraid of? Ask them why they don't want Obama's nominee to face a hearing?

Surely that's not too hard for McConnell and Boehner to do?

-PJ

33 posted on 01/05/2012 1:40:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The problem is that obama would laugh in their faces on the evening news and dare them to impeach... he knows these men are of low moral character and are all cowards.

LLS

34 posted on 01/05/2012 1:44:51 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The problem is that obama would laugh in their faces on the evening news and dare them to impeach...

Good! Bring it on!

I would love to see that fight on national TV. Make Obama look like a lawless dictator laughing at the other co-equal branches of government.

You see, this is exactly what I meant by Republicans talking themselves out of action. They start by assuming the following sequence of events, and then behave as if they already happened:

1. Obama forces constitutional crisis.
2. Republicans stand up and challenge Obama.
3. Obama goes on TV and blames Republicans.
4. Republicans say Obama is wrong and he forced this conflict while we are trying to help the middle class.
5. Obama goes on TV and calls Republicans whiney and getting caught up in the weeds.
6. Republicans bicker amongst themselves over what to do next.

So even though Republicans are only at step 2, they assume step 6. Nobody knows what would happen if Republicans actually did step 3. All we know is that Republicans never want to find out because they are afraid to play the game.

-PJ

35 posted on 01/05/2012 2:05:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The power of Congress of advice and consent is not trivial.
If this precedent of an endless end run around the Congress stands, the President will have unlimited appointment powers. The unapproved appointments will have a limited term but be renewable forever.
This is a test case and a gut check for what is left of the Republican Party.
At this point, the Republican Party is failing and losing what little credibility they have left.
If Mr. Obama can make a ‘recess’ appointment when Congress is not in ‘recess’, can he sign a law of his own drafting without the tiresome bother of sending the bill through the House and Senate?
TWB
36 posted on 01/05/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: SMGFan

>>...what now? That is besides fuming, and getting angry and holding our breathe until November...<<

What now? Probably the same thing congress did to address Obama’s Kenyan Daddy and his dual-birth rights.

Frustration is our burden, as long as we have to rely upon the likes of Boehner & McConnell to get anything done.


37 posted on 01/05/2012 2:13:50 PM PST by jaydee770
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To: AnglePark

They are trying to regulate your industry into submission........


38 posted on 01/05/2012 2:35:53 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: SMGFan

Actually, Mark did outline a possible approach. Anyone affected by any and all regulations from this agency can sue based upon the fact that they are acting without authority. Challenge everything they do. Tie them up in court. It’s what they do, after all.


39 posted on 01/05/2012 2:38:02 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: SMGFan
The Obamanunists are using that patented Clinton "depends upon what the meaning of recess is" ploy. It's hopeless to go round and round with that. May even take a court decision -- months from now.

Concentrate on what everyone acknowledges is a czar -- no Constitutional Senate confirmation required. Both parties do it but Obama has gone nuts, it appears -- or rather he has proved that he is nuts.

How many czars does Obama have now? What freedoms have we lost -- especially businessmen and women?

Start talking about how Obama is czar and fettering us.

40 posted on 01/05/2012 2:39:02 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Amen... amen... amen... sing it from the Mountain Tops!

LLS


41 posted on 01/05/2012 3:31:32 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: TWhiteBear
Right on! Still boehner and mcconnell are both cowering in a puddle of urine.

LLS

42 posted on 01/05/2012 3:33:27 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: PGalt

Well said my man!

LLS


43 posted on 01/05/2012 3:34:40 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
May even take a court decision -- months from now.

It shouldn't.

Hasn't the Court already ruled many times on the "make their own rules" power of Article I?

Obama does not get to decide when Congress is in recess. I'm sure the Court has sided with this power many times already.

-PJ

44 posted on 01/05/2012 3:53:57 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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