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Amanda Carey: Green Movement Dead In The Water
WUWT ^ | 1/6/2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/06/2012 9:40:13 AM PST by Signalman

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1 posted on 01/06/2012 9:40:15 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Really?

While the EPA is causing perfectly good power plants to shut down and incandescent light bulbs have disappeared from store shelves.

Yeah, dead in the water. < /sarc >


2 posted on 01/06/2012 9:44:03 AM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Signalman; ApplegateRanch; Berlin_Freeper; Genesis defender; golux; proud_yank; Bockscar; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 01/06/2012 9:45:17 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Signalman

That’s what they want you to think.


4 posted on 01/06/2012 9:46:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Signalman

The market is telling us that the environmental laws we have in place are sufficient to protect the public to the extent they want to be protected and the cost of being protected. Enviro-whackos seek to use government to impose rules and regulations that are often impractical and the cost of which the public considers stupid or onerous, and they don’t like it. It’s like a religion to these people. They would like nothing better than to decimate the untermensch so they and their favored friends can enjoy a pristine environment that we haven’t seen since Adam & Eve. Not gonna happen.


5 posted on 01/06/2012 9:49:28 AM PST by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Signalman

If the ship is dead in the water, ins’t that a prime opportunity to sink it?


6 posted on 01/06/2012 9:50:18 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Signalman

The Green movement will never die. In part, because good stewardship of the environment is a legitimate goal.

What has suffered a major setback is not the advance of legitimate environmental protections but the hijacking of the green movement through the use of dishonest and junk science to further political aims that really have nothing to do with the environment.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 9:52:54 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Yankee
While the EPA is causing perfectly good power plants to shut down and incandescent light bulbs have disappeared from store shelves.

Blame the blamed Congress for the incandescent light bulbs. It's one of these blamed feel good acts.

8 posted on 01/06/2012 9:56:27 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Signalman

Green is the new brown.


9 posted on 01/06/2012 9:56:41 AM PST by Leep
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To: DannyTN

use of dishonest and junk science to further political aims that really have nothing to do with the environment.

Not to mention great green investment opportunities for those who hawk the stuff - Al Gore for instance.


10 posted on 01/06/2012 9:57:34 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Signalman

On Earth Day in 1970, I was the only kid being driven to school on diesel-powered bus 69. I can report that Roy, the driver, carefully passed the throngs of walking students without comment.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 9:59:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: DannyTN

If you really want to confuse an “environmentalist”, ask them “What is the optimum environment?”


12 posted on 01/06/2012 10:01:15 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Bitsy

Exactly. An unholy combination of communism (elitist attempts at world control) and greed have “hijacked” the green movement and totally destroyed any credibility it might ever have had.


13 posted on 01/06/2012 10:01:19 AM PST by MCH
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"If you really want to confuse an “environmentalist”, ask them “What is the optimum environment?”"

I think that's a silly question. You might as well ask a doctor "What is optimum health?". The question is only confusing because nobody knows for sure the right answer and the right answer varies by person and by climate. But everyone knows and can distinguish between a poor state of health and a good one. Same with the environment.

Better to stick with logical arguments than trick questions.

14 posted on 01/06/2012 10:06:57 AM PST by DannyTN
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I think it's a good analytical piece about the political tactic and commercial influence the greenies pressed and it's effect.

I think the authors intentionally left out the actual science or arguments of the opposing ideologies.

Either intentionally or accidentally, the implication is that the movement could have succeeded (still might depending on 2012 elections) regardless of the substance or scientific truth had it been more moderately managed.

AND THAT IS SCARY.

15 posted on 01/06/2012 10:08:31 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: DannyTN

What should the earth’s temperature be and where should it be measured?


16 posted on 01/06/2012 10:10:14 AM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Signalman

17 posted on 01/06/2012 10:16:46 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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To: DannyTN

The point of the question (and their confusion) is that they have no idea what they mean by “protecting the environment”.

It’s just a way for them to fool themselves into believing they care about “the planet”.

They don’t know why getting rid of wetlands might be a good or bad thing, they are just told what to think.

“Environmentalists” know less about the environment than many of the people they lecture on a regular basis.


18 posted on 01/06/2012 10:16:59 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Bitsy
use of dishonest and junk science to further political aims that really have nothing to do with the environment.

I think the article intentionally avoids the substance of the debate and focuses on the failures of the message to influence and why. The author gives a lot of external excuses but does admit (in my words) they over played their hand and discredited themselves.

It was the author's choice. But here is one important thing that is overlooked. The reason they had to keep ratcheting up the doomsday scenarios. In true liberal fashion, when the logical/scientific arguments won't hold up under scrutiny, scream louder and create a crisis through fear.

The general populous is fooled far easier than is comfortable for me. But I do find a hint of comfort that the populous seems to have a tipping point (at least these days). Maybe the tipping point was brought on by the increased attention and scrutiny that has been brought on by this economic climate that we are in.

50 years from now, historians may be reporting that this self induced, government caused recession, coupled with a radical liberal elected president and 5 to 7 years of misery is what saved the nation. The sleeping giant awoke again?

Let's hope.

19 posted on 01/06/2012 10:17:22 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: Signalman

Central planning fails and fails and fails, but they keep trying.

Proverbs 27:22


20 posted on 01/06/2012 10:19:39 AM PST by lurk
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