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Dogs Have Same Understanding as Babies, Study Says
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Posted on 01/06/2012 1:04:54 PM PST by ColdOne

A new report in Current Biology highlights that some dogs have the skills of a 6-month-old baby, USA Today reported.

The study’s results “support the notion that dogs are sensitive to the cues of signaling humans’ communicative intent in a way that is analogous to preverbal human infants,” said Jozsef Topel, the study’s author and an associate professor in the Comparative Behavior Research Group at the Institute for Psychological Researches, Hungarian Academy of Sciences in Budapest.

In the study, 16 dogs watched videos of actresses turning toward a plastic pot.

During the first experiment, one actress stared directly into the dog’s eyes and said in a high-pitched voice, “Hi, dog.”

In a second experiment, the actress said, “Hi, dog,” in a low-pitched voice, but did not make direct eye contact.

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1 posted on 01/06/2012 1:04:55 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Feh.
I’d go as far as saying that some breeds have as much intelligence as a 2-yr old child.


2 posted on 01/06/2012 1:07:10 PM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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To: ColdOne

Feh.
I’d go as far as saying that some breeds have as much intelligence as a 2-yr old child.


3 posted on 01/06/2012 1:07:29 PM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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To: SandRat

doggie ping


4 posted on 01/06/2012 1:07:43 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

And some of them are just as cute.


5 posted on 01/06/2012 1:09:18 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: ColdOne

There was a study years ago that determined German Shepherds were as smart as 12 year olds. Of course, there are smart 12 year olds and dumb 12 year olds just like there are smart and dumb dogs. Our current crop are on the lower end of the scale. How I miss my old husky who was smarter than most people of any age.


6 posted on 01/06/2012 1:12:09 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

ping


7 posted on 01/06/2012 1:12:54 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

I have found I can train a six month old dog but it takes about 18 years to half train a human baby. My conclusion is that dogs are easier to train than humans. My hypothesis (which has yet to be tested rigorously) is that is because dogs are smarter than humans.


8 posted on 01/06/2012 1:13:34 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: ColdOne

Studies either prove what common sense tells us, or it is a lie - Dennis Prager.


9 posted on 01/06/2012 1:13:49 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: a real Sheila

I’d be willing to say my dogs have more intelligence than my Congresswomen and Senators!


10 posted on 01/06/2012 1:14:59 PM PST by KalaSamy
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To: a real Sheila

We will tell our Maltese-yorkie-poo to go get the ball, and she will run into another room and locate it and bring it back.

That’s intelligence beyond even six months.

Then the two inherited Chihuahuas from my wife’s family aren’t intelligent enough to let us know they have to use the restroom. So, it depends on the breed.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 1:16:16 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ColdOne

I’ve got two dogs.

They’re both smarter than most democrats.


12 posted on 01/06/2012 1:16:54 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: ColdOne

I’ve got two dogs.

They’re both smarter than most democrats.
And, they’ve never lied.


13 posted on 01/06/2012 1:17:39 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: KalaSamy
I’d be willing to say my dogs have more intelligence than my Congresswomen and Senators!

...and they're cleaner!!!!!
14 posted on 01/06/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by BikerJoe
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To: a real Sheila; ColdOne

Some breeds are more trainable than others.

It also depends on what you want the dog to do. Consider how the TV dog wisperer can get dogs to things the owners never could. Understanding dog psychology and communication has a great deal with how a dog will respond.

Trying to compare human and animal intelligence is problematic anyway.


15 posted on 01/06/2012 1:19:25 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: a real Sheila
I got a Jack Russell and I'd put him up against our president in an intelligence test any day of the week.

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16 posted on 01/06/2012 1:19:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: ColdOne

I had a lab mix that not only understood the meaning of certain words, e.g. go out, but rapidly learned the meaning of spelled words, e.g. g-o o-u-t.


17 posted on 01/06/2012 1:20:10 PM PST by aldabra
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
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18 posted on 01/06/2012 1:21:10 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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To: ColdOne
Smarter than a lot of voters, too!

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19 posted on 01/06/2012 1:26:40 PM PST by digger48
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To: cripplecreek

I have a Jack and she is one smart dog. learns fast and knows a lot of words.


20 posted on 01/06/2012 1:29:36 PM PST by midnightcat
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To: ColdOne

Ruby

I tested out signallying to Ruby to fetch by just using my eyes. I was surprised by the results. I can use my eyes to suggest something from her as well as using hand gestures or commands.

21 posted on 01/06/2012 1:32:14 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: ColdOne

No, they do not, it is in fact quite a bit higher, although all dogs are not created equal, same as man.

I am quite certain that some dogs have some form of ESP, and further more, I will go out on a limb and say that my dog is quite a bit smarter than some adults I know, certainly smarter than some frickin democrat green tard.


22 posted on 01/06/2012 1:33:11 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: midnightcat

Yeah I’ve loved the breed since the first time I got one. You can see the wheels turning as they work through problems.


23 posted on 01/06/2012 1:33:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: a real Sheila

Without a doubt. My dogs actually have a list of known words as long as my arm that must be spelled in front of them! The people that did this study need to find some smarter dogs. Sheesh ... 6 months?


24 posted on 01/06/2012 1:34:41 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: chris37

My Jack Russel Corgi mix is no Einstein. She’s got a strong herding instinct and a blank stare.


25 posted on 01/06/2012 1:35:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: lormand

Visual clues are a big part of how dogs communicate anyway.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 1:37:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Pontiac
"Understanding dog psychology and communication has a great deal with how a dog will respond."

Absolutely correct. We have 2 new dogs that were shelter rescues, so they came to us with some habits that were not that great. My husband tried his way to teach, with zero results, and then we sat down and talked about how the dogs are seeing things and gaging his directives. As soon as my husband understood how the puppies were using the info he was projecting, they improved drastically in response to his words.

27 posted on 01/06/2012 1:39:26 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: cripplecreek

Lol :D

I’ve got a German Shepard, lab, chow mix (but it’s about 95% shepard in appearance), and I am utterly stunned by the intelligence of this dog.

It can clearly understand full sentences, questions, it counts with barks, and it attemps to speak. It’s the funniest thing. He rolls his tounge and make noises that I have never heard another dog make while looking me directly in the eye. He does this asking for his begging strips. If I had to guess what he was actually trying to say, it sound like, “I want”.


28 posted on 01/06/2012 1:46:05 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: midnightcat

I don’t know what it says about me but I spend two thirds of the day trying to outsmart my beagle.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 1:52:15 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: ColdOne

‘He urged pet owners to keep up with their “baby-talk voice,” as it is likely to get the dog’s attention.’

I disagree with this. And am not seeing the point yet of the research (sorry, I myself am in a fog right now, maybe I’m pretty stupid now).

Even Cesar Millan would disagree - that nonsense of high-pitched baby talk works up dogs and agitates them. It may be OK to “get their attention”, but largely all it does is excite dogs who are already unstable. It is excitable. Low tones are better and are calming.

I’ve seen this so much with so many dogs, mine and others’ at the vets’ and so on. I want to scream at vet techs (invariably girls) who keep doing that screechy talk; all you’re doing is further exciting a frightened dog who doesn’t need more exciting.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 1:57:03 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: ColdOne

Someone dumped a tiny puppy on my doorstep, and now I guess him to be 8 months old, no longer a tiny puppy, but a huge, Malamute mix with bright blue eyes. He knows how to sit, come, don’t, shake, rollover, open doors, pick up trash, and put it in the garbage. He likes to charge into the bedroom in the morning, and flop around on top of me until I give him a good petting. Most of all, he tries very hard to be part of the family, with kids, my wife, my two old, arthritic dogs, and the two cats. He is very playful, but gentle. He is great with commands once he knows them, but not as quick as most dogs when it comes to looks and hand motions, and he likes things on his terms. It makes me wonder if he has a little wolf in him. Then again, I’m used to boxers who get very attached to their people.


31 posted on 01/06/2012 1:57:03 PM PST by pallis
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To: chris37

I have a German Shepard mix that is amazingly intelligent and seems to be able to follow simple conversations. My other dog a Boxer, Beagle mix is as dumb as a rock. The smart one is a one or two takes on a command and it learns it, the dumb one needs to go over and over a command. Like people dogs vary but some of them are vastly smarter then what is stated in the article. My point being that researchers don’t usually factor in for the variability of living things.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 2:02:54 PM PST by dog breath
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To: Pontiac

I agree. I started training dogs in the 1980s (just mentioning that to say I’ve been training a long time and watched different methods come and go). The thing about dogs is they are very intelligent compared to many animals, and some are quite good at certain types of problem solving. In other ways of course they will never be able to do things even some of the less intelligent humans (with average intelligence that is) can do. But if you know how to motivate a dog to learn behaviors they are amazing.
I started a project this year after a long time of not doing any formal training with my dogs. I am teaching my current dog a trick (really a behavior) a week for 2012. She’s a retired show dog and she knows only really basic things so she’s almost a blank slate. So far so good, she’s learned 2 new things. Most importantly she understands that she gets a treat when she can figure out what I want. She’s not overly smart (I would say average) but like most goldens she’s a pleaser so she should be easy. I would rather not train an extremely intelligent dog because they often spend more time figuring out how to get around you than figuring out how to please you. :)


33 posted on 01/06/2012 2:04:20 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: a real Sheila

If the 2-yr old eats his own poop.


34 posted on 01/06/2012 2:06:24 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: cripplecreek

I always wished I could get into my dogs’ heads for just a moment and see exactly how they think. Since they don’t think in words like we do. I assume their thoughts are in pictures, but who knows. It would be interesting.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: ColdOne; AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; apackof2; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
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36 posted on 01/06/2012 2:09:01 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: chris37

We had a dog that I swear was trying to speak. He’d sit down in front of me and go “Ao-whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa. Aoo wow-whoa-whoa...” And my folks for a while had some weird Russian breed of hunting dog that was so smart, they had to spell in front of him. He knew “toys” “ice cream” “go to town,” and several other words.


37 posted on 01/06/2012 2:10:33 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll put mine up against some of my teenage son’s friends even. I can’t tell you how many times that dog has had its head twisted to the side staring at them when they do something stupid and get hurt.


38 posted on 01/06/2012 2:13:28 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ColdOne
I wonder if they have a test to measure stubborness...I've had dachsunds.

One I had would run under the bed when I THOUGHT, "It's time for Schnitzel's bath." I didn't say a word...and it happened several times.

39 posted on 01/06/2012 2:16:40 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Mortrey

I had Democrat neighbors who had a dog that voted!


40 posted on 01/06/2012 2:18:13 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lormand

I love Ruby~


41 posted on 01/06/2012 2:19:06 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: midnightcat

My dog knows a lot of words, too. But so does my cat. Each knows about 15.


42 posted on 01/06/2012 2:21:21 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: lormand

Dogs that have smarter owners tend to learn more from their owners. Hence, my theory is a dumb dog is often a result of a dumb human. However, there are some dogs that just will not learn.


43 posted on 01/06/2012 2:21:59 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: donhunt

I don’t know what it says about me but I spend two thirds of the day trying to outsmart my beagle.

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And not succeeding, I guess. They are way more stubborn than you are. Plus they know regardless, you will feed them.

They win. Every time.


44 posted on 01/06/2012 2:22:15 PM PST by dmz
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To: Deb; All

“If the 2-yr old eats his own poop.”

Anything that eats its own poop can’t be too smart. ;-)

But, relatively speaking, my Australian Shepherds are very smart, and very much like toddlers. I could tell many stories, but I’ll limit myself to just one story now. As I was relaxing, Buddy walked up and gave me “the stare” that he wanted to go outside. I said, “Go tell Junior”. Darned if Buddy didn’t trot off to my son’s room and go “woof!” to be let out! I had never spoken that sentence before, but Buddy understood anyway. Scary smart for an animal.


45 posted on 01/06/2012 2:34:57 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yep, that is exactly the type of thing grainger does. he is clearly trying to use his moouth and tongue to make sounds other than the standard bark, and when he does it he concentrates so hard, looks me right in the eyes to the point that his eyes seem to be popping out slightly. It’s just adorable.

He also seems to understand phrases or sentences, at least much more than standard one word commands. I also have to spell the word w-a-l-k or he will go nuts until I walk him.

I tell you, I love dogs so much, I can’t imagine my life without dogs, this one as well as some other ones I’ve had the good fortune of knowing.


46 posted on 01/06/2012 2:35:03 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: dog breath

Yeah, I don’t think they factor in individual dogs either. I’m convinced that certian breed are smarter than others, and it seems that mutts are generally very smart.

I think my next dog is going to have to have some shepard in it too.


47 posted on 01/06/2012 2:36:53 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

The ultimate smart breed mixture would be GSD crossed with a border collie.


48 posted on 01/06/2012 2:44:50 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: TexasRepublic

You’re correct. Some things dogs do just can’t be explained by anything other than intelligence. Its babies who are stupid. My two mastiffs can fix my computer.


49 posted on 01/06/2012 2:55:09 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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We have a McNabb that we found in the desert one day. Was about a year old, still had both sets of teeth in its mouth, was malnourished, had worms, and was a quite a wreck. It had spent its puppy months alone in the cold and snow of winter. She walked right into the camp, jumped in a camp chair, and just was happy to be somewhere safe and freindly. She was brought home, brought back to health. At first, she was deathly afraid of doorways, and would not go anywhere near stairs. Now she is the freindliest, most well behaved, and intelligent dog I have seen in a while. After her health came back she got as playful as a puppy, but also rules the roost and allows nobody to mess with her family or dog friends. She is a joy to take camping as she remembers full well what it is like to be alone, so she will range around, but never out of ear shot, and will return immediately if called. Her and her best buddy black lab, are also very good with running with the truck up in the mountains, where you turn them loose, while driving up in the hills....they never cross near the front of the vehicle, and will instantly respond to commands to take a different two track if they take the wrong fork. They also never get out of eyeshot. Nothing more joyous than watching dogs run for unrestrained mile after mile.

This is as opposed to my other favorite dogs...Huskies, who are also incredibly intelligent, but tend to have a mind of their own, and very selective hearing (though female huskies are infinitely more manageable than males). Take them camping, and they tend to vanish for many many hours if you take your eye off of them even for a second. Although I do miss our old male husky (who quite literally ran across the entire state of Nevada through his lifetime). That little bastard loved to run with coyotes, and harass wild horses. He once slipped away, when our attention dropped for just a second, and returned 14 hours later (and was spotted 25 miles away earlier in the day). He was notorious for slipping away the instant he saw anybody packing gear up to go home. Though one time my friend had just gotten a female rescue husky from a breeder who had obviously been abused, and never been outside. The female was high strung, and freaked out at the smallest thing, and did not like human contact much...we were driving from phoenix to reno, and stopped to camp near Rachel (area 51), packing up the next morning, the male did his MO (we forgot to chain him to the bumper first), and the female followed him. We were unable to locate them, but eventually they returned a few hours later(having made us lose a whole day)...annoying at the time, I will say one thing unequivocably, the female who left was not the same dog that returned. It was the first day of her life, probably the best day of her life, and her personality was 100% changed, and she became a sweet, confident dog. She was a joy to take camping, as being a female, did not have the wanderlust that males seem to have, you still had to keep an eye on her, of course, but she wasn’t just going to vanish the second your eyes were averted, then pretend not to hear you if she crossed some magic 50 yard distance away. I do miss the male though, though a pain in the ass at times, that dog had the best life a dog could have without living on a ranch.


50 posted on 01/06/2012 2:57:18 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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