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Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy review
The Guardian ^ | 1-6-12 | Xan Brooks

Posted on 01/07/2012 8:03:54 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

Tomas Alfredson's marvellously chill adaptation of John Le Carré's cold war thriller features a delicate performance from Gary Oldman along with a first-rate supporting cast.

A thunderstorm rolled into Venice overnight, flash-bulbing the sky and lancing the boil of heat that has enveloped the city these past six days. One could have sworn that the temperature dropped still further, to practically Baltic levels, during the morning screening of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, a marvellously chill and acrid cold war thriller from Swedish director Tomas Alfredson. Right here, right now, it's the film to beat at this year's festival.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: coldwar; communism; spynetwork
I saw this film Fri. night and would like to discuss it with anyone else who has seen it.
1 posted on 01/07/2012 8:04:02 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I hope this does not win any big awards. I thought this film was pretty bad, and so did everyone who saw it with me. Forget about answering the question about who was the spy. Who was dead? Who was alive? Who is a homosexual? Who is bisexual? Who is a lesbian?

I was disappointed in this film because the trailers had all looked interesting and I was reeally looking forward to it. What a waste of talent! And a waste of my time!


2 posted on 01/07/2012 8:08:19 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Just saw it tonight. It was good, but..would have rather seen Sherlock Holmes.. probably better waiting on dvd in my opinion. I was confused a bit as to who was who at some points. Just not quite what I was expecting.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 8:12:36 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Who was dead? Who was alive? Who is a homosexual? Who is bisexual? Who is a lesbian?"

Hollywood's obsession with social issues.

4 posted on 01/07/2012 8:12:56 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, this is certainly disappointing! I was really looking forward to seeing it! Guess I’ll just have to settle for little Tommy Cruise in MI. I heard it actually was pretty good.


5 posted on 01/07/2012 8:14:52 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Just saw it. One-and-a-half stars. Too many subplots, too many layers, no character development, too slow (could have used the time to develop characters). I was looking forward to it, but was a great disappointment.
6 posted on 01/07/2012 8:18:37 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: FrdmLvr

Saw MI4 last week with 3 others and we all liked it very much.


7 posted on 01/07/2012 8:19:40 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ( Everytime a democrat loses, a Moonbat gets its wings burned off.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I liked this motion picture very much and think it deserves Oscar nominations. This is on my best film list for last year.

A lot of people that I know did not like it at all.


8 posted on 01/07/2012 8:27:52 PM PST by moviefan8
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I read the novel by John le Carré many years ago. I read most his novels, and found them boring - no action. They were all somewhat confusing in identifying the characters in my opinion. I finally gave up and started reading Robert Ludlum.


9 posted on 01/07/2012 8:28:33 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wel, when I start trying to read my watch in the middle of the movie, you can tell that my attention has strayed.


10 posted on 01/07/2012 8:34:13 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: FrdmLvr

Ghost Protocol was really good. No American bashing, just straight action. Very fun movie.


11 posted on 01/07/2012 8:37:31 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: SERKIT

1 1/2 stars about sums it up for me. I seldom really dislike a movie because I research them before I go, but this one was a shocking disappointment.

I should have been forewarned. NONE of the trailers shown before the film are movies that I would waste my time on.

The end of the Le Carre film came so suddenly that I said, “That’s it?” Everybody around me laughed.


12 posted on 01/07/2012 8:38:22 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How does it compare with the TV series? I’m going to guess that the TV series is better.


13 posted on 01/07/2012 8:45:28 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

****Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy****

I believe this movie was done for TV about 25 years ago with Alec Guinness as George Smiley.


14 posted on 01/07/2012 8:46:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I’ve never seen the TV series.


15 posted on 01/07/2012 8:47:27 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Mmogamer

Sherlock is really good! It looks like I’ll wait for this one on netflix.


16 posted on 01/07/2012 8:49:26 PM PST by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I’m sure that Guinness would have been better in the role.


17 posted on 01/07/2012 8:50:02 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: stylecouncilor

Guess I’ll try that next then.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 8:57:06 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; afraidfortherepublic

***I read the novel by John le Carré many years ago. I read most his novels, and found them boring - no action.***

Years ago, 1966 to be exact, I saw THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD, a top notch movie made to show that spy work is not all James Bond. It is the only time I ever fell asleep while trying to watch it in the movie theater. Bo-ring.


19 posted on 01/07/2012 9:31:00 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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20 posted on 01/07/2012 11:43:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“I read most his novels, and found them boring - no action.”

Hubby and I listen to audio books in the car. We tried Smiley’s People, which I realize was probably not the best place to start. We gave up on it, hubby was almost falling asleep while driving and listening to it.

The scene where Smiley goes to visit the old lady spy was just coma-inducing.

We also listened to “the Tourist” by Olen Steinhauer. That was pretty good but it has a most disheartening endings and I HATE THAT.

Really all these spy novels seem to be more about intra-agency betrayal than anything else.

No wonder we lack good intel on our enemies, all our spys are spying on one another.


21 posted on 01/08/2012 12:11:38 AM PST by jocon307
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To: FrdmLvr
Guess I’ll just have to settle for little Tommy Cruise in MI. I heard it actually was pretty good.

I hear from friends that it's the best MI yet. Outstanding.

22 posted on 01/08/2012 12:30:33 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Years ago, 1966 to be exact, I saw THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD... It is the only time I ever fell asleep while trying to watch it in the movie theater. Bo-ring.

Probably why it's never on T.V. Another successful Le Carre' snoozefest.

23 posted on 01/08/2012 1:46:41 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: FrdmLvr

Whatever you do, stop the presses and Net Flix the original British tv series “Tinker, Tailor...” starring Alec Guinness and some of the best actors on the planet. Don’t miss the epic battle between Smiley and Karla. You will not regret it.

It is a convoluted story - that’s LeCarre’s style but the acting and plotting are sensational.


24 posted on 01/08/2012 2:31:03 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I certainly don’t agree with The Guardian that we are encouraged to see our side and their side as equivalent. That is more true in later le Carre works.

The mole is shown at the end saying he had to make a choice, and he made an aesthetic choice. Not moral, not philosophical, not political, not patriotic. Aesthetic. To me that was one of the most degenerate statements I ever heard.

In the book, the loyalty to country and to freedom, and the disdain for communism, are even more emphatic, but they were there in the movie too.


25 posted on 01/08/2012 3:05:30 AM PST by firebrand
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Haven’t seen the film yet, but I can’t imagine it being that good, only because there’s too much story to stuff into two hours. I highly recommend the 1979 mini-series, with Alec Guiness as George Smiley:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080297/


26 posted on 01/08/2012 5:36:53 AM PST by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: Mmogamer

I found myself leaning in to pay closer attention during Sherlock. Every moment was wrenching in its own way. I only see one or two movies a year; some just must be seen on a big screen. Sherlock was my first choice this year, and well worth it.


27 posted on 01/08/2012 6:25:45 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: mkleesma

You are right about too much story to stuff into a 2 hr. film. And their portrayals of the characters were flat. It was hard to raise an ounce worth of empathy for any of them, much less keep track of who is alive and who is dead with all the flashbacks.

“Red” with Helen Mirren and Bruce Willis, John Malkovich, & Morgan Freeman in 2010 was a story along the same lines, but much better done. Much better.


28 posted on 01/08/2012 9:59:44 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Years ago, 1966 to be exact, I saw THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD, a top notch movie made to show that spy work is not all James Bond. It is the only time I ever fell asleep while trying to watch it in the movie theater. Bo-ring.

That movie is a classic. It's probably Richard Burton's best performance. The rest of the cast, Claire Bloom, Oscar Werner, Peter Van Eyck; are all great as well. It really has several twists that make it difficult to figure out until the end.

The only problem with Le Carre is that he is one of those lefties who felt that all sides in the cold war were essentially the same.

29 posted on 01/09/2012 10:01:16 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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