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Shooting of dogs disputed
Decatur Daily ^ | January 7, 2012 | Seth Burkett

Posted on 01/09/2012 11:39:35 AM PST by Altariel

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1 posted on 01/09/2012 11:39:42 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Hightower?

What is this, a Police Academy movie?


2 posted on 01/09/2012 11:52:37 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Altariel

What is it about steroids that makes cops hate dogs so much.


3 posted on 01/09/2012 11:54:20 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Altariel
That stopped the dog, but otherwise didn’t have any effect.

Exactly what other effect did they WANT it to have?

4 posted on 01/09/2012 11:54:30 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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The police story here does not even make any sense.

They claim they “opened an already cracked door to the apartment of John Haggamaker whom they were seeking in relation to an altercation…” whereupon they were attacked and had to shoot the dogs.

But later in the article it is reported that Mr. Haggamaker was begging them not to shoot his dogs as they were leading to a squad car.

If they already had him in custody, why would they have needed to open the door to his apartment “seeking” him?

5 posted on 01/09/2012 12:05:05 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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These guys obviously don’t know to look beyond target. When you are shooting at a target, know what is behind it. If you miss your target or if the bullet penetrates the target, it is your responsibility.
Most police carry 9mm or .40...lots of penetration on a dog...not to mention a dog coming at you face first does not present a very large target area and you are more likely to miss or penetrate at an angle just about ensuring that the bullet will continue and cause damage or death beyond.
These cops need training and understanding. Shooting in an apartment building should be about the last resort unless confronted by a imminent life or death situation. A dog hardly qualifies as that, especially when other residents offer to take the dog into their apartment!!!


6 posted on 01/09/2012 12:06:10 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: driftdiver

I dunno. It seems some cops view dogs the way the fictional terminators viewed human targets.

“Target acquired. Execute.”


7 posted on 01/09/2012 12:07:47 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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The shootings by officers Demetrius Hightower and Jarrod Birchfield are being reviewed by Decatur Police’s office of professional standards, police spokesman Lt. John Crouch said.

They will receive medals for bravery, no doubt.
8 posted on 01/09/2012 12:09:30 PM PST by microgood
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Yep, I noticed that as well.

It seems the most logical explanation is that *they wanted to shoot the dogs*.

The eagerness of some officers to destroy animals belonging to private citizens is an alarming trend, and one that needs to be stopped.


9 posted on 01/09/2012 12:12:26 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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“Entering through a cracked door” huh? Probably the door was shut, and possibly it was locked. But then the police might need a search warrant to enter, so just log it as “the door was open a crack.”

Now if MY door was “Open a crack” then my dogs would quickly be out roaming the neighborhood. My guess: the police illegally entered the apartment thereby creating the situation that resulted in killing the dogs.

Seems like overkill for a public intoxication arrest.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 12:15:52 PM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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Based on personal experience, many cops today are habitual liars who are far more danger to the public than most criminals. Anyone, canine or human, who defies these govt.-sanctioned bullies is at risk.

The officers are going to be "cleared" after a make-believe "investigation."

11 posted on 01/09/2012 12:16:25 PM PST by hellbender
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Based on personal experience, many cops today are habitual liars who are far more danger to the public than most criminals. Anyone, canine or human, who defies these govt.-sanctioned bullies is at risk.

The officers are going to be "cleared" after a make-believe "investigation."

12 posted on 01/09/2012 12:16:29 PM PST by hellbender
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Disgusting! There’s no other word for it.

I hope the owner files suit against these cops, and that he ends up with a whole bunch of money!


13 posted on 01/09/2012 12:18:26 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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There are a lot of people in law enforcement who would have been considered way too wimpy for the job even thirty years ago.


14 posted on 01/09/2012 12:20:34 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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There’s several other things that make no sense. He’s wanted for public intoxication, but they’re going into his apartment for him? Sounds like he was drunk in private to me.

No mention of any arrest warrant, either.


15 posted on 01/09/2012 12:25:02 PM PST by NVDave
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To: driftdiver

What is it about steroids that makes cops hate dogs so much.


Hate to say it but it is not unusual for psychopaths to begin their careers of murdering humans with torturing and murdering innocent animals.

They belong in prision. They will “progress” to abusing and murdering people - if they have not already abused and murdered people.

Union Marxists are that “blue line” of fascism. Ban government unions...or die or live and watch the constitution and country you love die.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 12:26:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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No, these cops need firing. Cops love shooting dogs.
I left Home Depot Saturday just after dark to find 3 large dogs lying by my truck door. I nicely said “you pups need to go home before you get run over.” One was a pit bull which began growling and advancing on me. I raised my arms and yelled menacingly, which caused the 3 to run. I had my carry weapon (9mm) but didn’t want to shoot with bystanders behind the dogs. Dogs were about 6 feet away, knew I had time to unholster and shoot.
Some cops just hate dogs.


17 posted on 01/09/2012 12:52:20 PM PST by TStro
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To: Tallguy

My ex brother-in-law was a cop. Bragged about whispering “police” before kicking down the door, then claiming the occupants refused to open. Being a cop really changed him for the worse - one of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet when we were in school. Carried a throw-down gun.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 12:56:06 PM PST by TStro
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To: Altariel

The war on dogs continues.


19 posted on 01/09/2012 12:57:03 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: TStro

I have a 7 year old male Portuguese Water Dog. My girlfriend has a female Pit Bull 2 years of age. We left the house the other day forgetting one of those “things” that you just have to check on. She phoned her neighbor & asked him to enter the house to take care of the matter. Both dogs knew him & like him. My girlfriend’s female Pit Bull just sat there, but my PWD wanted to remove a limb from the neighbor.

Eventually he was able to calm the dogs. But the point is that “nice dogs” can be very territorial. It’s all about context.

Oh, and my GF’s Pit loves to fly at the door when a certain mailman is on duty. She never does it with anyone else. It’s kind of a “hold my beer, and watch this” moment.

So 2 Dogs that I would describe as “meek & loveable” have witnesses that could reasonably claim that they were “vicious”. I have no doubt that if the police were to enter her house in the manner described that they’d both end up dead.


20 posted on 01/09/2012 1:08:28 PM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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