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Tebow leaves feeling good
BostonHerald.com ^ | January 15, 2012 | Steve Buckley

Posted on 01/15/2012 5:56:45 AM PST by Boston Blackie

FOXBORO — Not that’s there any way to quantify this, but the betting here is that the same people who were crowing last week about how there’s no such thing as divine intervention in pro sports were pointing at the flat screen last night and saying, “Hey, Tebow, where’s your divine intervention now?”

But before continuing, let’s be clear:

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1 posted on 01/15/2012 5:56:47 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Haters gotta hate, don’t they? Tebow’s a class act.


2 posted on 01/15/2012 5:59:37 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Boston Blackie

It was a sad game to watch. Tebow wasn’t the prob. The whole Broncos team was...totally outmatched in all phases of the game.


4 posted on 01/15/2012 6:06:39 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Boston Blackie
I left Gillette Stadium at midnight feeling better than Tim.

Next time, Denver should send an NFL team, not a college team.

It could have been 56-0 had New England not made those two turnovers.

5 posted on 01/15/2012 6:07:49 AM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Boston Blackie

That’s a pretty good piece. Real thoughtful — and his bottom line is right on target: the bottom line is winning.

Personally, I think Tim can develop into an excellent second-tier QB — at the level of a Rivers, Big Ben, or Doug Flutie. It’s possible he could achieve first tier — but, that will depend on his ability to read defenses, go through the progressions, and such.

IMO, the horrible bashing last night was less his fault than that of his offensive line and porous defense. Still, he did fail to spot a good many open receivers. And, I still can’t figure out why he didn’t run for the TD down on the three.

What say you much sharper sports analysts than I?


6 posted on 01/15/2012 6:10:25 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

Keep it classy, typical Massachusetts arsehole.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 6:10:45 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: FrdmLvr
Haters gotta hate, don’t they? Tebow’s a class act.

??????????????

8 posted on 01/15/2012 6:10:53 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: airborne

I really have no idea why you say that.


9 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:17 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: FrdmLvr

I second that.


10 posted on 01/15/2012 6:13:03 AM PST by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Boston Blackie

TT has already created a miracle. He got atheists to pray to God - that he loses.


11 posted on 01/15/2012 6:14:03 AM PST by chopperman
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To: Boston Blackie

Hey, doesn’t Bain capital own the Patriots too. ;-) snicker


12 posted on 01/15/2012 6:14:14 AM PST by rhombus
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To: hampdenkid

What is with the nasty attacks by some people over this article? I agree with you .... its a pretty good piece.


13 posted on 01/15/2012 6:14:54 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: hampdenkid

I dont understand the Tebow hate. Can anyone deny that he is a good human being? Why hate the guy, regardless of your religion or what kind of QB you think he is. He does a lot of great things off the field and is a good role model for any kid.


14 posted on 01/15/2012 6:16:13 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

I agree with you 100%, and I hope my comments did not come off as a Tebow attack. I love the guy. This off-season is going to be very important for him. To tell yu the truth, were I Tim, I would hire Donovan McNabb (or some other former top pro QB) as an off-season tutor (as LeBron james did with some basketball pro). Tim just needs some schooling.


15 posted on 01/15/2012 6:20:39 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: rhombus
Hard to believe that Bob Kraft owns the Patriots lock, stock and barrel. Bought the team, built the stadium and Patriots Place with his own money. Not a penny of taxpayer money.

The state did build an access road off the highway to the stadium property line. snicker,snicker.

16 posted on 01/15/2012 6:22:53 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Ah hah! ;-)


17 posted on 01/15/2012 6:23:44 AM PST by rhombus
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To: wolfman23601

Can you point out where the writer shows hate for Tebow in this article?


18 posted on 01/15/2012 6:25:20 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

From the article, “But before continuing, let’s be clear: Unless George Burns was correct in “Oh, God” about how the 1969 Mets really were a miracle, The Big Guy Upstairs doesn’t get involved in sports.”

I’ve got news for him. There isn’t one thing — one breath, one bird that falls to the ground, one hair on our heads — that God hasn’t counted and ordained. Nothing. It’s not that God is so big He doesn’t sweat the small stuff...He is so big that He does it all. I would expect no less from the one true God.

That said, Tebow is a class act alright.


19 posted on 01/15/2012 6:26:08 AM PST by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Boston Blackie
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20 posted on 01/15/2012 6:26:35 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: hampdenkid
That’s a pretty good piece. Real thoughtful — and his bottom line is right on target: the bottom line is winning.

Personally, I think Tim can develop into an excellent second-tier QB — at the level of a Rivers, Big Ben, or Doug Flutie.

You state that the bottom line is winning, and then put big Ben in as a second tier QB even though he has been to three and won two Super Bowls.

Rivers is second tier and Doug Flutie was an also ran in the pros.

Flutie threw a Hail Mary pass in college that won a game and lived off that for years as a backup and some times plug in starter for a couple of pro teams.

Flutie was described as hard working and gritty, meaning he had little talent, but he did bust his butt.

Rivers is a good looking family man {6 kids} good QB and continues to choke in the clutch.

21 posted on 01/15/2012 6:28:44 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Boston Blackie
From the article:

And when poor, unprotected Tebow was dropped for a loss of 11 yards early in the third quarter of the Patriots [team stats]’ 45-10 trampling of the Broncos last night at Gillette Stadium, that wasn’t God’s will. It was the will of Vince Wilfork [stats] and Rob Ninkovich.

Actually, that WAS God's will. He is indeed interested in every part of our lives to the point of numbering the hairs on our heads. I don't pretend to be able to explain how the shellacking the Broncos took is used by God, but my ignorance of it doesn't in any way mean that its outside of God's perfect will. God is sovereign and that includes the entertainment of football.

22 posted on 01/15/2012 6:29:44 AM PST by Jemian
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Very true. But the Tebow haters are already using it as another stick to beat him with. And the newest one? 'He's putting a sick kid over the team. He doesn't care about football.'

SIGH.

What a sad when when society can't recognize good when its staring them in the face. Have we become so jaded that good is now abnormal?

God help us all.

23 posted on 01/15/2012 6:32:19 AM PST by rintense
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To: Boston Blackie

In past years, Bellichick and the Patriots have fashioned defensive schemes that defeated Peyton Manning and some of the best Colt teams, as well as many other teams. Tebow did about as much as he could against a superior defensive effort, and the writer pointed that out.

Wait ‘till next year.


24 posted on 01/15/2012 6:33:59 AM PST by Will88
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To: Boston Blackie
I think Tebow is a great guy, and neither he nor his teammates have any reason to be ashamed or disappointed about yesterday's game. They did a fine job just making it to the playoffs, and pulled out an improbable win last week against a Pittsburgh team that had been picked by many as a preseason favorite to go to the Super Bowl.

New England was just flat-out better yesterday, and there's nothing wrong with that. It happens in sports all the time, and I say this as someone who still has fond memories of my Giants laying a beating on the San Francisco 49ers by a 49-3 score in the playoffs en route to their first Super Bowl championship.

25 posted on 01/15/2012 6:37:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Boston Blackie

It takes a whole team, not a Tebow to win a championship. Tim Tebow had an outstanding season and has every reason to be happy, although we know they wanted that playoff. He’ll be back next year with a better defense, I hope.


26 posted on 01/15/2012 6:38:13 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rintense
Tebow only mentioned God three times during his postgame presser, once at the beginning, once at the end and once when someone managed to reference Solomon while posing a question that was both fawning and leading.Yes, he referenced Zach McLeod, the 20-year-old Cambridge resident who is recovering from a severe brain injury. Tebow, who met with the young man before the game, said, “I’m a little disappointed we weren’t able to win tonight. We played a great team and they played well and you have to give them a lot of credit. Still, it wasn’t a bad day. It still was a good day because before the game I got to spend some time with Zach McLeod and make him smile, and when you get to do that it’s still a positive day and it’s still a good day.

It’s a lame question. A better question would be: Does spending time with the likes of Zach McLeod get in the way of winning? Obvious answer: No. Pro athletes have all kinds of pregame rituals. This is Tebow’s. Deal with it.That is a defense of Tebow and his great work.

27 posted on 01/15/2012 6:41:51 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Yes, I read that. I’m talking about Denver fans (and others, too).


28 posted on 01/15/2012 6:44:31 AM PST by rintense
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To: Boston Blackie

Really interesting that Tim Tebow has NEVER claimed that his worship and praise of the Lord when he drops to his knee is for the purpose of asking God to help him and the Broncos win a football game. Only the haters here on FR and in the general public have made that assumption. It’s the lunkheads who are to be pitied for their hatred.


29 posted on 01/15/2012 6:45:23 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: flintsilver7
I really have no idea why you say that.

I really have no idea why you have no idea.

30 posted on 01/15/2012 6:45:50 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Will88
Tebow did about as much as he could against a superior defensive effort, and the writer pointed that out.

... and somehow that makes him a Tebow hater in the eyes of some.

31 posted on 01/15/2012 6:47:45 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Gods will be done in all things, ALL THINGS.

I too watched the game and the Broncos offense and defense were lousy. Tebow was unprotected, and I asked myself “Father, whhere are You?” I got my answer. I think Tebow is being tested. Will his love for God turn on a loss, or will he continue to love God no matter what the outcome. Keeping Tebow humble. Put NO false gods before Me. I think Tim will pass the test, and Gods will be done.

BTW, who says God can’t enjoy a football game? For all we know he could have been sitting on the 50. He can do whatever He pleases.


32 posted on 01/15/2012 6:48:00 AM PST by mardi59
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To: rintense
Regarding putting a sick kid over the team, I remember Lance Armstrong saying that his Cancer Foundation was more important than winning Tour de France championships. Although not for those reasons, but Tebow and Armstrong are my 2 favorite athletes (and Brady is not on my list).
33 posted on 01/15/2012 6:50:45 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out, find a way further in.)
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To: Jemian

I agree, yet I think we tend to believe that God intervenes more often than he really does.

God created us - but I think be tends to be hands off and allows us to achieve or fail on our own. If God’s hand was involved on behalf of Tim Tebow, his will has been done. Have we not all been debating or praising his will? When is the last time a major media outlet made his will the subject of numerous reports - for weeks?


34 posted on 01/15/2012 6:55:22 AM PST by CTyank
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To: Boston Blackie

The Lord and Tebow have won. A dialouge , either positive or negative and even quoting scriptures has been taking place across the country that otherwise would not have been.


35 posted on 01/15/2012 6:55:52 AM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Boston Blackie

I haven’t read all the responses, so if I repeat what someone else has said, so be it....

Last night’s game proved one thing; on this particular night the Patriots were the better team.

Tebow’s performance showed that without a good offensive line, the best quarterback in the world (and no, I am not referring specifically to him, just generically) can stink.

I have nothing against Tebow personally or professionally. He seems like a fine young man who knows there is more to life than football.

My only disappointment; the game itselt, especially after that nail-biter in San Francisco.


36 posted on 01/15/2012 6:57:22 AM PST by ixtl ( You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: righttackle44
Really interesting that Tim Tebow has NEVER claimed that his worship and praise of the Lord when he drops to his knee is for the purpose of asking God to help him and the Broncos win a football game.

I don't recall anybody ever stating that on FR.

Only the haters here on FR and in the general public have made that assumption

I wish you would name some of Tebow haters that are on FR.

37 posted on 01/15/2012 7:00:03 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Last week I was a hater and an Obama fan because I was rooting for the Steelers.


38 posted on 01/15/2012 7:06:08 AM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: CTyank
The more I think about it and the older I get, I've come to the conclusion that although there is unquestionably a God, He doesn't appear to be actively working in our lives. In that I am a deist. This differs from what my Bible church preaches.
Christians are being persecuted by muslims throughout the world, liberals in Hollywood and the press are pushing evil at an alarming pace, and His messenger Tim Tebow gets blown out and embarrassed. God is watching, no doubt and His plan is unfolding but in the final analysis, He works through us and we need to take action.
39 posted on 01/15/2012 7:06:51 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out, find a way further in.)
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To: mardi59
I think Tebow is being tested.

Tebow: Still, it wasn’t a bad day. It still was a good day because before the game I got to spend some time with Zach McLeod and make him smile, and when you get to do that it’s still a positive day and it’s still a good day.

I think Tebow can handle it.

40 posted on 01/15/2012 7:08:18 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Roy Baty

I tend to agree with you.


41 posted on 01/15/2012 7:08:18 AM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: CTyank
God doesn't do for us what we should do for ourselves.

That's why I love Ambrose Bierce's Cynic's Dictionary of prayer:

"To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy."God loves us and does us good, but he doesn't intervene in every aspect of our lives or in every detail . . . that would be a contradiction to his gift of free will. What he does is give us the ability to do for ourselves . . . we still have to do the footwork.
42 posted on 01/15/2012 7:14:28 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: NotSoFreeStater
Last week I was a hater and an Obama fan because I was rooting for the Steelers.

Scary, isn't it? Like being a racist if you don't vote for Obama lol.

43 posted on 01/15/2012 7:14:28 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: wolfman23601
I dont understand the Tebow hate. Can anyone deny that he is a good human being?

I have no idea whether he's a good human being. He certainly puts on a good show of being one.

44 posted on 01/15/2012 7:17:45 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Boston Blackie
This story is amazing and speaks volumes of our cultural state in America. Some people do not like Tebow strictly because of his religious tone and his humble manner.

A religion which is mocked daily by ignorant arrogance and precisely because it's tenets promote GOOD moral values which holds people ACCOUNTABLE.

45 posted on 01/15/2012 7:20:32 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: USS Alaska

With the exception of this year, Rivers hasn’t been a choker. The Chargers have a matador defense and Rivers always answered the bell when called. The defense and Nate Kaeding are the choke artists on the Chargers.

As for Flutie, at least on the Chargers, he did manage to bring the Chargers - a crappy team, with an even crappier quarterback (Ryan Leaf) a few wins after a 1 -15 season. He also filled in when Drew Brees couldn’t get it done early in his career. He was a QB with not great skills who is true leader and got the best out of the team around him.


46 posted on 01/15/2012 7:26:05 AM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Boston Blackie

“I think Tebow can handle it.”

Yes, because Tim certainly looks to be a young man with a good foundation. Strong core beliefs and his priorities well in line.

Thank you BB for the post. I was pleasantly surprised to read a straight forward assessment of the game, and more, of the author’s thoughtful admiration of Tim.

And thank you Lord, for Tim Tebow. For the joy he shares, for his inspiration, and for bringing God back into the discussion in this country.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


47 posted on 01/15/2012 7:28:39 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Boston Blackie

Personally, I feel God was in charge of those wins. The three 316 references were too much for coincidence. But they why didn’t he win last night? Maybe because God knows it’s never enough with us. If Tebow had won last night it would have all been riding on the playoffs, then the Superbowl, and even if he went all the way, people would have their knives out for next season.

But I believe God used Tim. Everyone knows who Tim Tebow is now even non-sports types. I think he’s been put out there as an example, one I’m grateful for in these wicked times.


48 posted on 01/15/2012 7:33:20 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

I’m glad the Broncos lost to the Pats and not the Steelers. The Steelers are the official team of the Obama admin and the media’s favorite AFC squad. I respect the Pats and Brady and will be rooting for them next week if the Ravens win today.


49 posted on 01/15/2012 7:36:17 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: wolfman23601

Why hate the guy, regardless of your religion or what kind of QB you think he is.

%%
You answered your own question in the next sentence:
He does a lot of great things off the field and is a good
role model for any kid.

^^^
For some reason — jealousy? just plain evil? — some feel threatened by good, decent people.

For example, I am willing to bet that there is a bevy of harlots just waiting for an opportunity to entice this young man and ruin his reputation.


50 posted on 01/15/2012 7:37:21 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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