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The Coast Guard Thinks You've Put on a Few Pounds ("Assumed Average Weight Per Person")
Yahoo ^ | 1/02/12 | Dashiell Bennett

Posted on 01/15/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by Libloather

The Coast Guard Thinks You've Put on a Few Pounds
By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – Mon, Jan 2, 2012

The Coast Guard recently raised its "Assumed Average Weight Per Person" standard to 185 pounds, reflecting the growing waistlines of the American populace. The number — which is 25 pounds higher than the previous average — is used to the determine the safe operating capacity of passenger boats around the country. The change may force tour operators, ferry services, and other charter companies to adjust the capacity of their vessels or risk failing their next Coast Guard inspection.

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1 posted on 01/15/2012 5:40:52 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

185 lbs??? Really??

Come to Texas. With our Hispanic, Germanic and African American population mix, we are closer to 225 lbs for men!

Probably close to that for women too!!!

:) :)


2 posted on 01/15/2012 5:44:52 PM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Libloather

When you book, have a line for weight.


3 posted on 01/15/2012 5:46:44 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Who’d admit they’re flirting with 300?


4 posted on 01/15/2012 5:48:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Libloather

Oh, great. I’ve sailed and boated all of my life, and I don’t want to seem too critical, but about the only thing I’ve ever seen the Coast Guard do in Maine where we spend our summers is come around and give people fines for not having enough life preservers or for getting a little oil in the water from their outboards.

If you ever break down, however, forget calling the Coast Guard. They are very unlikely to come to your rescue. Call a friend, or call a lobsterman that you know and ask him to give you a tow.

So, now, with one announcement they’ve made tens of thousands of boats obsolete, because they no longer qualify to carry the number of passengers they were built for.

I’m sure Michelle, the Food Queen, loves this.


5 posted on 01/15/2012 5:50:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Libloather

I’m a mere 105.6 pounds so the Coast Guard would have no problem with me.


6 posted on 01/15/2012 5:50:36 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Of course, it could help in booking if seating is assigned at the time, and arranged so that the boat is balanced port to starboard. Too many fatties on, say, the left side of the craft, and it could tip.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 5:50:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Cicero

Why not allow the option to book by actual weight.


8 posted on 01/15/2012 5:51:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Too many fatties on, say, the left side of the craft, and it could tip.


9 posted on 01/15/2012 5:55:46 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Bureaucratic inertia. Everything goes by the book.

I’ve been boating for more than 60 years. I’ve always kept a packet of emergency flares on board, because the Coast Guard requires it. I’ve never used them, and I don’t know anyone who ever used them. I would imagine that they are more of a danger than a help, since I’ve known kids to sometimes get hold of them and treat them like fireworks.

But I’ve religiously kept them on board, because I don’t want to be fined or deprived of the right to drive a boat.


10 posted on 01/15/2012 5:57:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Libloather
Off by 67 lbs.

I still maintain my high-school weight these umpty-mumble years later.

/johnny

11 posted on 01/15/2012 6:00:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Libloather

I fly airplanes. For weight and balance calculations I figure 200# for adults over 21, 80# for kids under 14, and 160# for 14-21 years old. I’m usually not that far off.


12 posted on 01/15/2012 6:01:10 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Libloather

The FAA still sticks with 170lbs per person per seat when figuring weight and balance.


13 posted on 01/15/2012 6:02:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
I’m a mere 105.6 pounds so the Coast Guard would have no problem with me.

On a boat, I believe you would be called 'chum'.

14 posted on 01/15/2012 6:03:36 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Probably.


15 posted on 01/15/2012 6:05:06 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Libloather

Is this one of those ill-fated Chinese craft?


16 posted on 01/15/2012 6:05:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Libloather

Chum seems like a real good thing if you’re trying to catch porpoises or sharks — but other fish? Especially the vegetarian varieties?


17 posted on 01/15/2012 6:07:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Libloather

Makes sense.

People are taller on average than they used to be, too.

And stronger.


18 posted on 01/15/2012 6:11:14 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

That was definitely true in San Antonio.

Now I’m in Kentucky, and the people are even bigger.

One of my cars has a 400 lb combined capacity and there are few men who can ride with me. In Kentucky, there are even fewer women who could jump in...


19 posted on 01/15/2012 6:13:53 PM PST by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Who’d admit they’re flirting with 300?

Flirting??? Heck we're like newlyweds!

20 posted on 01/15/2012 6:14:20 PM PST by null and void (Day 1089 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Dexter Morgan

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By herself she’s a group!
Can she possibly
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No, no, no!
...

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21 posted on 01/15/2012 6:15:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
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22 posted on 01/15/2012 6:17:05 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

The Coast Guard would be correct. The airlines have already added the extra pounds. The only alternative would be to weigh each passenger individually.


23 posted on 01/15/2012 6:17:10 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Libloather

This rule hit us at our workplace. I operate a ferry that holds up to 9 cars and has a 100,000 pound limit. Our previous limit was XX passengers, our new limit is XX passengers. This new limit has nothing to do with the weight capacity of the ferry, it is simply a beaurocratic interpretation based on the prior number of life jackets we carried.

Some government drone said “this vessel has XX life jackets which multiplied times 185 pounds equals this weight. Now divide by the new weight equals how many passengers you can carry.”

9 cars and XX passengers can never get over 100,000 pounds! It’s impossible on our ferry we tell the drones.

No problem they say, for the low price of $4,000 you can request a variance in your stability letter.

Do any of you still wonder why American jobs continue to go overseas?


24 posted on 01/15/2012 6:22:39 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Cicero
And I've seen situations as an Auxiliarist where people needed flares, and needed the correct number of life jackets. The regulations aren't there to annoy you; they're to make sure if things go wrong, you can help yourself.
25 posted on 01/15/2012 6:25:00 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Tailback

Get rid of some of the life jackets? Sounds insane but it looks like that’s what the burro-crats are hinting at.


26 posted on 01/15/2012 6:29:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Libloather

Oh. It struck a reef. This was not a situation of too many fatties on the starboard side.


27 posted on 01/15/2012 6:31:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah? Why is the side with the big gash UP?


28 posted on 01/15/2012 6:32:46 PM PST by null and void (Day 1089 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

29 posted on 01/15/2012 6:37:22 PM PST by null and void (Day 1089 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: GAB-1955

I have the flares. And I usually have a number of extra life preservers on board, adult and child, in case someone shows up without one.


30 posted on 01/15/2012 6:44:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Get a physical job you lardasses!


31 posted on 01/15/2012 6:48:01 PM PST by dalereed
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To: GAB-1955
And I've seen situations as an Auxiliarist where people needed flares, and needed the correct number of life jackets. The regulations aren't there to annoy you; they're to make sure if things go wrong, you can help yourself.

You actually believe "that's why the regulations are there" - "to make sure if things go wrong, you can help yourself"?

I stand speechless before such naivete'.

You might get a lot of mileage in front of Boy Scouts, but my advice is to stay out of political discussions.

Oh and please, just spare me the rock-obvious safety talk, m'kay?

32 posted on 01/15/2012 7:10:23 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: Tailback

You are absolutely correct. Government regulations will put a whole lot of small fishing, sightseeing,ferry’s out of business by this ridiculous mandate.
I can imagine it will hurt larger vessels as well including aircraft.
As you said pay $$$ to get a variance.
Shameful.


33 posted on 01/15/2012 7:29:36 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Cicero

The War on Commerce continues.


34 posted on 01/15/2012 7:36:57 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Talisker

Yeah. Over the course of many years, I’ve broken down a few times, and the obvious thing is to get people to wave to a passing boat and have the kids jump up and down while you do it. Who wants to mess with flares in a boat? Conceivably there might be an occasion to use one, but I’ve never seen it.

There’s a coast guard academy not far from where we stay, and I’ve known a few people who went there. They start out with a genuine love of the sea and boats, but most of them seem to end up as bureaucrats. Like traffic policemen, their chief interest seems to be fining people—presumably because those are the boss’s orders.


35 posted on 01/15/2012 7:48:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tailback

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36 posted on 01/15/2012 7:49:48 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Talisker
You actually believe "that's why the regulations are there" - "to make sure if things go wrong, you can help yourself"?

I stand speechless before such naivete'.


Back when I was stationed in Alaska, I had a buddy who got in trouble and ended up in a life raft with his wife and in-laws. This was before everybody had GPS or personal locator beacons that could guide rescue folks to within a few hundred feet. He wasn't able to give them precise coordinates and they had a large area to search.

He, his wife, and her parents might not be alive if it weren't for flares.

This wasn't even at night, either.
37 posted on 01/15/2012 7:52:30 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: SoftwareEngineer
185 lbs??? Really??

Come to Texas. With our Hispanic, Germanic and African American population mix, we are closer to 225 lbs for men!

Probably close to that for women too!!!


Visit just about any Wal-Mart in Texas and the average weight is probably around 200-225 pounds easy. It's ridiculous how fat this country is getting.

If you're in the healthcare industry and have anything to do with diabetes, you've got job security for decades to come.
38 posted on 01/15/2012 7:54:47 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Libloather

Americans are also taller.


39 posted on 01/16/2012 4:12:38 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Talisker

I’ve also had to help in recoveries of bodies where people didn’t take care of those basic safety talks.

Those “naive” regulations helped save my brother and niece’s life in a boating accident.

Say all you want - the world is full of careless boaters and they need the regs.


40 posted on 01/16/2012 9:32:49 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Cicero

You are one of those boaters the Coast Guard doesn’t worry about, it’s clear.

When you need SAR things, you need them very badly, I have learned.


41 posted on 01/16/2012 9:34:24 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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