Skip to comments.The Coast Guard Thinks You've Put on a Few Pounds ("Assumed Average Weight Per Person")
Posted on 01/15/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by Libloather
The Coast Guard Thinks You've Put on a Few Pounds
By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire Mon, Jan 2, 2012
The Coast Guard recently raised its "Assumed Average Weight Per Person" standard to 185 pounds, reflecting the growing waistlines of the American populace. The number which is 25 pounds higher than the previous average is used to the determine the safe operating capacity of passenger boats around the country. The change may force tour operators, ferry services, and other charter companies to adjust the capacity of their vessels or risk failing their next Coast Guard inspection.
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185 lbs??? Really??
Come to Texas. With our Hispanic, Germanic and African American population mix, we are closer to 225 lbs for men!
Probably close to that for women too!!!
When you book, have a line for weight.
Who’d admit they’re flirting with 300?
Oh, great. I’ve sailed and boated all of my life, and I don’t want to seem too critical, but about the only thing I’ve ever seen the Coast Guard do in Maine where we spend our summers is come around and give people fines for not having enough life preservers or for getting a little oil in the water from their outboards.
If you ever break down, however, forget calling the Coast Guard. They are very unlikely to come to your rescue. Call a friend, or call a lobsterman that you know and ask him to give you a tow.
So, now, with one announcement they’ve made tens of thousands of boats obsolete, because they no longer qualify to carry the number of passengers they were built for.
I’m sure Michelle, the Food Queen, loves this.
I’m a mere 105.6 pounds so the Coast Guard would have no problem with me.
Of course, it could help in booking if seating is assigned at the time, and arranged so that the boat is balanced port to starboard. Too many fatties on, say, the left side of the craft, and it could tip.
Why not allow the option to book by actual weight.
Bureaucratic inertia. Everything goes by the book.
I’ve been boating for more than 60 years. I’ve always kept a packet of emergency flares on board, because the Coast Guard requires it. I’ve never used them, and I don’t know anyone who ever used them. I would imagine that they are more of a danger than a help, since I’ve known kids to sometimes get hold of them and treat them like fireworks.
But I’ve religiously kept them on board, because I don’t want to be fined or deprived of the right to drive a boat.
I still maintain my high-school weight these umpty-mumble years later.
I fly airplanes. For weight and balance calculations I figure 200# for adults over 21, 80# for kids under 14, and 160# for 14-21 years old. I’m usually not that far off.
The FAA still sticks with 170lbs per person per seat when figuring weight and balance.
On a boat, I believe you would be called 'chum'.
Is this one of those ill-fated Chinese craft?
Chum seems like a real good thing if you’re trying to catch porpoises or sharks — but other fish? Especially the vegetarian varieties?
People are taller on average than they used to be, too.
That was definitely true in San Antonio.
Now I’m in Kentucky, and the people are even bigger.
One of my cars has a 400 lb combined capacity and there are few men who can ride with me. In Kentucky, there are even fewer women who could jump in...
Flirting??? Heck we're like newlyweds!
Can she fit in my coupe?
By herself she’s a group!
Can she possibly
Sit upon my knee?
No, no, no!
— Too Fat Polka
The Coast Guard would be correct. The airlines have already added the extra pounds. The only alternative would be to weigh each passenger individually.
This rule hit us at our workplace. I operate a ferry that holds up to 9 cars and has a 100,000 pound limit. Our previous limit was XX passengers, our new limit is XX passengers. This new limit has nothing to do with the weight capacity of the ferry, it is simply a beaurocratic interpretation based on the prior number of life jackets we carried.
Some government drone said “this vessel has XX life jackets which multiplied times 185 pounds equals this weight. Now divide by the new weight equals how many passengers you can carry.”
9 cars and XX passengers can never get over 100,000 pounds! It’s impossible on our ferry we tell the drones.
No problem they say, for the low price of $4,000 you can request a variance in your stability letter.
Do any of you still wonder why American jobs continue to go overseas?
Get rid of some of the life jackets? Sounds insane but it looks like that’s what the burro-crats are hinting at.
Oh. It struck a reef. This was not a situation of too many fatties on the starboard side.
Yeah? Why is the side with the big gash UP?
I have the flares. And I usually have a number of extra life preservers on board, adult and child, in case someone shows up without one.
Get a physical job you lardasses!
You actually believe "that's why the regulations are there" - "to make sure if things go wrong, you can help yourself"?
I stand speechless before such naivete'.
You might get a lot of mileage in front of Boy Scouts, but my advice is to stay out of political discussions.
Oh and please, just spare me the rock-obvious safety talk, m'kay?
You are absolutely correct. Government regulations will put a whole lot of small fishing, sightseeing,ferry’s out of business by this ridiculous mandate.
I can imagine it will hurt larger vessels as well including aircraft.
As you said pay $$$ to get a variance.
The War on Commerce continues.
Yeah. Over the course of many years, I’ve broken down a few times, and the obvious thing is to get people to wave to a passing boat and have the kids jump up and down while you do it. Who wants to mess with flares in a boat? Conceivably there might be an occasion to use one, but I’ve never seen it.
There’s a coast guard academy not far from where we stay, and I’ve known a few people who went there. They start out with a genuine love of the sea and boats, but most of them seem to end up as bureaucrats. Like traffic policemen, their chief interest seems to be fining people—presumably because those are the boss’s orders.
Americans are also taller.
I’ve also had to help in recoveries of bodies where people didn’t take care of those basic safety talks.
Those “naive” regulations helped save my brother and niece’s life in a boating accident.
Say all you want - the world is full of careless boaters and they need the regs.
You are one of those boaters the Coast Guard doesn’t worry about, it’s clear.
When you need SAR things, you need them very badly, I have learned.