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VANITY: HERMAN CAIN: ENDORSE **MITT ROMNEY** AT YOUR OWN POLITICAL RISK (From Former Supporter)
self | 17 January 2012 | AmericaninTokyo

Posted on 01/15/2012 7:24:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

(VANITY)

Word has it that Mr. Herman Cain, a strong conservative presidential candidate incessantly attacked by the national media, the DNC and the RINO Establishment slime machine, is in a position now to endorse in pivotal South Carolina prior to its presidential primary.

The problem is, some indications are coming out that such an endorsement, while "unconventional" may be going to Mitt Romney, the worst possible choice for the Republicans in 2012 and certainly no conservative, easily beatable by Barack Obama in November. Sucn an endorsement would be highly inadvisable. Many of us, former 2012 Cain supporters, volunteers and donors say this in unison and with passion.


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We ask Mr. Cain would think better of this. Mr. Cain is trying to build a whole powerful political empire based on the most logical "9-9-9 Concept", and having an impact on elections and social commentary on behalf of Conservatives, however at least in speaking for myself, he will find no more donations nor support from me if at this critical juncture--and I will encourage across the board that other conservatives behave accordingly--if he were to endorse in critical, turning-point South Carolina the phony RINO Mitt Romney, author or supporter of such monstrosities as Romneycare and pro-abortion/pro-gay unions and one the least conservative in the GOP presidential race remaining.

This statement is made respectfully yet seriously. Any other members-emeritus on FR of the Cain Machine who feel likewise, are more than welcome to add their names to this general appeal and advise against such an inprudent move.

1 posted on 01/15/2012 7:24:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

who is your source for this information? give us a clue at least!


2 posted on 01/15/2012 7:26:51 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If Cain does this it will be really depressing :-(


3 posted on 01/15/2012 7:28:01 PM PST by Bobalu (Newt is just the a-hole we need at a time like this)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I don’t think Cain is going to endorse a person. He hinted as much on a recent interview.


4 posted on 01/15/2012 7:29:43 PM PST by freespirited
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To: AmericanInTokyo
GOP EXCITEMENT, GOP EXCITEMENT
5 posted on 01/15/2012 7:30:12 PM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If he’d throw his support behind Newt, along with J.C. Watts, a Conservative just might win SC!


6 posted on 01/15/2012 7:30:20 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I am in the same boat as you AiT.. I am hoping that was just rumor.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 7:30:43 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bigtigermike
Legitimate question.

His own words recently, extrapolations of various comments he has been making, on television shows such as The View, the tenacity of the Romney campaign to secure such a nomination as they have been working overtime to gain endorsements of others who have dropped from the race, tactical coordinated-like movements of the GOP Establishment of late, etc. (We call this "the Fix".) It is a collection of utterances, hints, trial balloons that seem to be floated, and other factors, taken as a whole. It would be the second endorsement of Mitt Romney by Herman Cain in two election cyles, were it to transpire. However, it is my opinion it should be short circuited and pre empted, if that is even possible at this time.

8 posted on 01/15/2012 7:31:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Romneybots may appear left & right on FR in the next few weeks/months. Jim/Mods, PLEASE zap 'em!)
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To: Bikkuri; AmericanInTokyo
I am hoping that was just rumor.

Yeah, me too.

9 posted on 01/15/2012 7:31:36 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I'm endorsing O'bama AND Romney as all my guys & gals don't make it very far. Go Barry! Go Mitt!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Does anyone really give a rat’s rump what Cain says anymore? He jumped ship and never looked back. So much for all that “patriotism”! /S


10 posted on 01/15/2012 7:32:17 PM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I guess it would be "unconventional" given that Cain and Newt were working quite close to each other in the campaign. Before the problems started with Cain one could have almost assumed that if either of the two had won the nomination, the other would be on the ticket as well.

I'd be surprised if Cain endorsed Romney, but stranger things have happened.

11 posted on 01/15/2012 7:32:35 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

He’s angling for a cabinet position or something. Remember they are all politicians or at least wannabe politicians.

Put your faith in the ideas....Never put your faith in the man....he will ALWAYS disappoint you.


12 posted on 01/15/2012 7:34:43 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I respect and admire Herman Cain.

Used to respect and admire Nikki Haley.

Keep that in mind, Herman.


13 posted on 01/15/2012 7:37:44 PM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: vmivol00
Remember they are all politicians or at least wannabe politicians.

Put your faith in the ideas....Never put your faith in the man....he will ALWAYS disappoint you.

THAT is so true! Thank you for bringing our feet back to earth.

14 posted on 01/15/2012 7:38:09 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mr. Cain was ONLY on the train to help Romney from the beginning. Every sceptic he had pointed to that probability and yet Cainiacs were in denial.
He’s a showman and a book salesman and a talk show host. He wanted to fry Mexicans on an electric fence. Tsk Tsk Tsk. He’s heartless. Now proving it by endorsing Romney.


15 posted on 01/15/2012 7:40:02 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: tsowellfan

He endorsed Mitt last time around. Why does anyone think he’s not going to do it again? I mourned the day Cain gave in and dropped out.


16 posted on 01/15/2012 7:40:47 PM PST by Allon (Since 1980, no Republican has won his party's nomination without winning in South Carolina.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What political risk does Cain have?

He was a one shot deal.


17 posted on 01/15/2012 7:41:09 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Didnt some speculate that possibly Romney played some part in bringing down Cain?
At least the establishment that appears to be mostly is behind Romney didn’t do anything to help Cain.


18 posted on 01/15/2012 7:41:12 PM PST by Leep
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To: tsowellfan
I'd be surprised if Cain endorsed Romney, but stranger things have happened.

FWIW, I happened to catch an MSNBC interview of him a couple of days ago. He was bothered about the Bain thing, said he would make an endorsement on January 19th, and said he would be supporting whoever the GOP nominee is.

Take it for what it is worth.

19 posted on 01/15/2012 7:41:12 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Pretty sure Herman Cain will indeed endorse Romney (he already did in ‘08, so there’s precedent).

He’s been co-opted by the Establishment now and feels like he’s part of the big boys, so he’ll do his part to curry favor with them.


20 posted on 01/15/2012 7:41:20 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Willard is NOT a Fair Tax guy. That’s Cain’s passion to revive the economy. As it was Huck’s in ‘08 and now but moreso.

I really think Cain endorses Newt but is waiting for AFTER SC for some dumb reason.


21 posted on 01/15/2012 7:43:00 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

In that “Lincoln/Douglas debate” it sure looked like Cain and Newt hit it off famously. I’d be surprised if Herman went for Mitt, although he may be angling for a cabinet position!


22 posted on 01/15/2012 7:44:13 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Allon
He endorsed Mitt last time around. Why does anyone think he’s not going to do it again?

The definition of "insanity"

23 posted on 01/15/2012 7:44:39 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: FryingPan101

The one helping Willard is Perry. Period.


24 posted on 01/15/2012 7:44:57 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Herman made it pretty clear on Sean that he wouldn’t be endorsing any individual but instead it would be an idea (or set of ideas) and a movement. He said he’s still dedicated to defeating BHO, and I’ve gotta think he’d never endorse Mittens over Newt - unless that’s the nominee and he said he’d support ANY nominee running against BHO.


25 posted on 01/15/2012 7:45:47 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That’s impossible. Cain wants to be Romney’s vp. Just ask anyone of his detractors.


26 posted on 01/15/2012 7:46:50 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You know me.

I’m going to reserve judgement and participation until his endorsement.

I figure I owe it to him, to at least give him a chance to speak first rather then engage in speculation.


27 posted on 01/15/2012 7:48:05 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: CainConservative
I really think Cain endorses Newt but is waiting for AFTER SC for some dumb reason.

Perhaps he thinks it's too late to get the biggest bang out of his endorsement for SC and he wants his endorsement too appear as if it made a difference.

OR

He feels Florida will be a more important time for Newt to receive such an endorsement.

28 posted on 01/15/2012 7:48:26 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: CainConservative
The one helping Willard is Perry. Period.

Amen to that!

29 posted on 01/15/2012 7:49:51 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: CainConservative
The one helping Willard is Perry. Period.

With Huntsman dropping out Perry will soon own last place, the only remaining candidate in single digits. Is Perry smart enough to drop out also? Probably not.

30 posted on 01/15/2012 7:50:03 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That is NOT TRUE. Cain has no plans to endorse ANYONE in this race.


31 posted on 01/15/2012 7:56:33 PM PST by justsaynomore
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To: CainConservative
The one helping Willard is Perry. Period.

I know there's virtually no chance that the American people will start to think for themselves and give Perry a second look. I know that but I'm disappointed because I think Perry is the only one I'd trust to do what he says. The only one I trust to defeat Obamacare and trim goverment in a substantial way. It's so sad that we choose our elected officials by debates or sound bites and not look at their record, their actual accomplishments.

All that said, Perry isn't hurting Newt or helping Romney, Paul and Santorum are. That's the way the game's played though so not much to be done. Wait and see I guess.

32 posted on 01/15/2012 7:58:14 PM PST by Kenny
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Are you sure this is a reliable source? Cain would be a fool to do this.


33 posted on 01/15/2012 7:59:26 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: justsaynomore

To prove he is not planning to endorse Romney, here is what Hermean Cain wrote today:

I have been hounded in media interviews to give them the scoop on which Republican presidential candidate I ‘m going to endorse. When I respond that it will be “unconventional,” they go nuts because they cannot conceive of what that means. That’s not the way they think.

So they try to guess what it means based on conventional political practice. You will be endorsing yourself getting back into the presidential race, they guess. Nope. You will be endorsing someone that’s not in the race, they suggest. Nope. You will be endorsing two of the remaining candidates instead of one. No again.

I was an unconventional Republican presidential primary candidate who ran an unconventional political campaign, and achieved unexpected results before I ended my quest for the position of president. Most of the people interviewing me did not get it. Namely, it wasn’t about the position as much as it is about the mission. I am still on a mission to help defeat President Obama, and to make the “9-9-9 Economic Growth and Jobs Plan” the law of the land.

An unconventional endorsement is part of a bigger message. It can also be two-dimensional, a specific candidate and a specific cause. We already know the specific cause. I’m still looking for the right candidate to “adopt” the 9-9-9 plan. If that does not happen, the cause will still be part of a bigger endorsement message, which is to make sure we defeat President Obama in 2012, and that we transfer power out of Washington and back to the people.

Besides, I’m not convinced that one-dimensional endorsements make that big a difference in the outcome of how people vote. They probably do to some extent, but in today’s political climate most of them are not game-changers.

I want to change how voters think about candidates, not in terms of their media-focused flyspecked negatives, but to think of them in terms of their positives and their relevant experiences. I also want to change how voters think about solutions to our national crises.

Namely, stop accepting the usual political rhetoric of “what’s wrong,” because most of us already know what’s wrong. We also know that there is more than enough blame to go around for how we got so screwed up as a country. I want voters to focus on how candidates are going to fix stuff

I want people to focus on real solutions and real leadership.

I know that’s unconventional political and media thinking, but the conventional thinking, the conventional approach, the conventional compromises, the conventional promises, the conventional rhetoric and the conventional endorsements are not going to save this great country.

We need a Solutions Revolution.

We can’t just think outside the box, as the saying goes. We must redesign the box and fill the box with what the people want, not what the political class and the media class want.

We want our power back.

That’s unconventional.

http://www.northstarwriters.com/2012/01/15/and-now-for-my-unconventional-endorsement/


34 posted on 01/15/2012 8:00:13 PM PST by justsaynomore
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Just posted the following on his FB page:

I voted for you in the FL straw poll in Orlando, and was part of your campaign in FL - now I’m hearing rumors you’re about to endorse Romney?? Please don’t totally disillusion me against politics by so blatantly selling out your principles to endorse the GOP establishment chosen one. You could’ve won this thing.


35 posted on 01/15/2012 8:02:41 PM PST by caper gal 1
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To: NoPrisoners

not I...if the last assuser whom sounded level headed were a liar, seems like the right thing to have done is sue her and stay in the race. He seems quite guilty to me and many others. Those 4am phone records don’t help either.


36 posted on 01/15/2012 8:03:14 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/cain-will-not-endorse-1299792.html


37 posted on 01/15/2012 8:04:35 PM PST by Trueblackman (Posting on FR since 1998 and 100% teleprompter free post as well.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

If you’re right, that answers the question of why Herman would start a new “grassroots” movement when the Tea Party already fills that void. Instead of trying to win over the TEA Party, maybe the establishment will try to marginalize it with a movement of their own. Maybe they think we’ll get excited again and join their new group.

That’s the worst-case scenario, of course. I’d like to believe that Herman is above such reprehensible conduct. If he comes out for Romney, however, I will lose all respect for him.

I sent an email to Herman’s staff expressing my opinion of Mitt Romney and urging him to do the right thing. I doubt it’ll make a difference, but at least I’ve said my piece.


38 posted on 01/15/2012 8:08:06 PM PST by Cato in PA (Socialist R or Socialist D? Neither of them is the one for me.)
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To: justsaynomore

>> We want our power back.

There’s the synopsis.

He’s irrelevant — he made himself that way — and he wants his power back.

Good luck with that, Horndog Hermie.


39 posted on 01/15/2012 8:08:29 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: CainConservative

If he does endorse romney, will you change your screen name?


40 posted on 01/15/2012 8:10:56 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Utmost Certainty

So many really got fooled by ‘ol Hermie- and they’re being fooled by Santorum, the RINO voter.


41 posted on 01/15/2012 8:12:57 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The problem is, unless Perry and Santorum pull out before Florida, and their supporters (and financial backers) coalesce behind Newt, it is probably all over.

Not saying I like it. I maxed out to Cain and am maxed out to Newt, but I can read the tea leaves.

The telling sign is that Romney has enough money that his TV commercials are up in heavy primetime rotation in Florida, and SC at the same time, and NOBODY else is up in Florida AT ALL. Plus Newt has no ground game here in FL.

Huntsman is out tonight, and his Orlando-born wife's supporters will all go to another moderate, Romney. And of course, $ go to winners, and the latest Reuters poll has Romney up BIG in SC, after wins in NH and Iowa.

Don't like it, but I never curse reality.

42 posted on 01/15/2012 8:13:24 PM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: Leep

I don’t know if there is direct evidence, however what we CAN say is that the water carriers for Romney in the Talk Show Circuit were constantly stoking the first that the libDems/Obama Machine started—as Herman Cain was an incredible threat-through Politico on Herman Cain and then through Gloria Allred, et al on Herman Cain. Romney may not have approved of it or known of it, but he was a direct beneficiary. People come to mind like Karl Rove, Laura Ingraham (especially), etc. I will NEVER EVER forget those people’s words, innuendos, and pressure on the air on Cain to drop out, building up a non-scandal into something huge enough to damage his family and himself...all on behalf of their favorite chess piece, Mitt Romney. The whole sordid thing stinks then and stinks now today. The least Herman Cain could do now is endorse somehow who was way arms’ length away on that contrived fiasco and did not make political benefit out of it at the time, over and above what was necessary as a competitor. At any rate, Herman Cain often said that political power is best when it comes from the PEOPLE, so in that regard, this post is presented, so that he can truly here the voice of the People, first and foremost the people out there who helped get him as far as he got, he should listen to us first, and ignore any GOP Beltway Establishment in-kind emoluments or promises of emoluments that might be floating out there at this time, and stick with a True Conservative when he finally does endorse.


43 posted on 01/15/2012 8:13:41 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Romneybots may appear left & right on FR in the next few weeks/months. Jim/Mods, PLEASE zap 'em!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The problem is, unless Perry and Santorum pull out before Florida, and their supporters (and financial backers) coalesce behind Newt, it is probably all over.

Not saying I like it. I maxed out to Cain and am maxed out to Newt, but I can read the tea leaves.

The telling sign is that Romney has enough money that his TV commercials are up in heavy primetime rotation in Florida, and SC at the same time, and NOBODY else is up in Florida AT ALL. Plus Newt has no ground game here in FL.

Huntsman is out tonight, and his Orlando-born wife's supporters will all go to another moderate, Romney. And of course, $ go to winners, and the latest Reuters poll has Romney up BIG in SC, after wins in NH and Iowa.

Don't like it, but I never IGNORE reality.

44 posted on 01/15/2012 8:13:44 PM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yes, generally, I have tuned Hermon out. [off] The past 12 to 15 times I have seen him on TV, he is about self-promoting and little else. Oh, yes, Hermon does talk about the election but only tangentially. His aim is to promote his already discredited and so-called 9-9-9 plan.


45 posted on 01/15/2012 8:14:18 PM PST by citizen (Conservatives, we must choose: Do you want to beat Romney more than Obama? IMHO, we can't do both.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Gosh, I was supporting him. This would be awful.

I could not respect him if he caves to the establishment. I am sure they are working around the clock to get his endorsement. How could a conservative endorse Mitt?

46 posted on 01/15/2012 8:15:53 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Please Herman. Think of your country first. We’ve already discovered on FR enough dirt on Romney that BO will absolutely bury him. We beg you don’t endorse Willard.


47 posted on 01/15/2012 8:18:41 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: CainConservative

“The one helping Willard is Perry. Period.”

I don’t think so. Period.

I think the “one” helping Romney has been, still is, and will be Herman Cain.


48 posted on 01/15/2012 8:19:57 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Like others here, I hope your “source” is honma ni machigai.
Two things, Cain said his endorsement would be unconventional and also that it would not be a candidate, but an idea or principle.
Also he said his announcement would be made on Jan. 19th, unless I am mistaken.

Gambare !!


49 posted on 01/15/2012 8:20:05 PM PST by Islander2
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I just went on his website and begged him not to endorse Romney.


50 posted on 01/15/2012 8:21:09 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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