Posted on 01/20/2012 6:03:02 AM PST by xzins
hell yeah boy I am petrified and since I am a female, want protection from vultures
Sorry, but every one of the points of the contract with America, as promised, came to the floor of the House for a vote. Every one of them went forward as a bill.
The Senate blocked many of them.
The president (clinton) vetoed some of them.
That was not the end, however, for the principals of those bills continued and they resulted in a balanced budget, reduced taxes, a reform of welfare, and a paid down national debt.
BTW, I, too, like Senator Santorum. I believe, though, like Sarah Palin that Gingrich MUST win in S Carolina to stop the establishment from steamrolling the process with Mitt Romney. You, TOO, for that reason should drop your Santorum support for this primary BECAUSE the Romney machine must be stopped so the process can then go forward.
Sarah Palin says it’s a simple math problem. Newt has 30ish, Romney 28ish, and Santorum 14ish. As a math problem only, which has the better mathematical chance of defeating Romney in S Carolina?
After S Carolina, Santorum supporters can double down on Santorum in Florida.
He likes to use "negative" connotations. Why else would he have asked Bachmann, "Are you a flake?" bttt
Bullseye!
Excellent post, Proudcongal
Gingrich answered that low-blow from Santorum excellently by accepting and embracing the charge of grandiousity, but using it with the positive connotation.
Exactly! Unfortunately for those trying to re-write history, some of us were paying CLOSE attention to what was going on back then, and we KNOW what the real score is.
Are you asking how an ordained minister could be supporting someone you don't perceive as having "high standards, moral conscience..."?
The problem is pretty simple intellectually, not only as a math problem.
Romney is the choice of the GOP establishment elite. No argument there. But Romney can’t garner more than 25%, or so, of the GOP electorate to vote for him. The problem is, the rest of the 75% has been split among a host of other candidates, each one pulling a semblance of support for various reasons. This is a big problem because it means the establishment candidate will get the nomination unless we, the people, coalesce around another candidate in opposition to Romney.
Now with the field culled to 4, Gingrich on the rise, the choice is pretty clear. Sure, he has issues. But so does everyone else. We’re NOT, NOT, going to get a candidate who fits every bill. And Santorum, even though he did well in Iowa, is not going to do well in SC. This whole idea of holding out for the most suitable social conservative is going to kill us. Because the one left standing just isn’t going anywhere.
Gingrich, even with his foibles, has shown he has the knowledge, intelligence, and moxy to stand up to 1) Romney, 2) the MSM, 3) Obama. And that’s what we need this election. It’s a must; we may not get another chance to save this nation.
Let’s put our ideals aside and unite to save this nation. Otherwise, our ideals will be nothing but useless chatter. Sarah Palin has seen this, so should we all.
If you want to place Gingrich in with the GOP elite, then why is the GOP elite trying to ruin his campaign? If you want to place Gingrich in with the GOP elite, then you have to include Santorum (remember his part in the Arlen Specter issue...). That means there’s only one candidate outside this classification; that’s Ron Paul. Is that what you want?
Gingrich has what it takes to take on the MSM and Obama. The momentum is there. Either we embrace it or we may lose big come November. And even should we lose, I’d rather go down with a guy willing to fight rather one willing to embrace or nuance.
Excellent comments, both of you.
You two think alike. Euro, you’ve got to see Lady’s comment at #41.
Good stuff. Thanks.
Wow Guenevere, that was snarky towards xzins.
If I might add this: for all of your self righteousness in defense of, I guess, Santorum, I might say look for the plank in RS’ eye first. RS defends himself first and foremost in a petulant and almost childish way.
Newt, for his flaws, defends US first, defends CONSERVATISM first. Even last night, under the most personal of attacks, he made the point that the media is always attacking all Republicans in order to defend Obama. And he’s right.
Santorum, meanwhile, whines “me me me I I I me me me” — and it drips with off putting self righteousness.
Santorum thought the operation worked so well for Mitt that he followed suit...LOL.
Perfect description of Wallace, and one I've always thought. Ever notice how he always gets along best with senators? That's what senators do, deliberate endlessly over minutae and most are totally blind to the big picture. Wallace is blind to the big picture. He's a little accountant bureaucrat weasel of moderate intelligence who is way out of his league with someone like Newt. Now, put him with Lindsay Graham and John McCain or Mitch McConnell (who I think are on his Sunday show every week) and he's right at home.
Then buy a gun and protect yourself, be self-reliant do not look to the government to protect you.
Gingrich tried to use it in the positive sense as an answer to the attack from Santorum, who obviously used it in the more commom negative sense.
And you are pointing out something pivotal. The connotation of a word can depend on many elements such as inflection, body language as well as the CONTEXT in which it is used.
From the context in which they used the word, it is obviously the two of them had different connotations in mind.
Cheers.
glad you have all the answers
Yes. The establishment is pulling out all stops trying to knock Gingrich off his perch. Perry will truly be a nice complement to Newt in regard to making govt. smaller and returning power back to the states. I cannot wait!
I thought Newt’s response was a good turnaround to a low, but perhaps effective blow by Santorum.
Certainly it was not Gingrich’s debate highlight last night, but he defended a nasty attack by embracing it and attempting to turn it around into a positive instead of retaliating against Santorum.
How would you have responded?
I think Newt did well considering the nature of the attack.
Cheers.
For the most part I like Chris but I think this is all a matter of payback to Newt for “jobbing” him on one of those earlier debates.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.