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Weaker sun will not delay global warming: study
Yahoo ^ | 1/23/12 | Nina Chestney - Reuters

Posted on 01/25/2012 2:24:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge

LONDON (Reuters) - A weaker sun over the next 90 years is not likely to significantly delay a rise in global temperature caused by greenhouse gases, a report said Monday.

The study, by Britain's Meteorological Office and the university of Reading, found that the Sun's output would decrease up until 2100 but this would only lead to a fall in global temperatures of 0.08 degrees Celsius.

Scientists have warned that more extreme weather is likely across the globe this century as the Earth's climate warms.

The world is expected to heat up by over 2 degrees Celsius this century due to increased greenhouse gas emissions.

Current global pledges to cut carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions are not seen as sufficient to stop the planet heating up beyond 2 degrees, a threshold scientists say risks an unstable climate in which weather extremes are common.

"This research shows that the most likely change in the sun's output will not have a big impact on global temperatures or do much to slow the warming we expect from greenhouse gases," said Gareth Jones, climate change detection scientist at the Met Office.

"It's important to note this study is based on a single climate model, rather than multiple models which would capture more of the uncertainties in the climate system," he added.

During the 20th century, solar activity increased to a maximum level and recent studies have suggested this level of activity has reached, or is nearing, an end.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: delay; globalwarming; greenhousegases; study; sun; weaker
Effectively, this Brit study 'single model' confirms .. Blimey!

WE'RE DOOMED!!!

1 posted on 01/25/2012 2:25:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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from the 19th..

2011 was ninth-warmest year since 1880: NASA
http://news.yahoo.com/2011-ninth-warmest-since-1880-nasa-214423361.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The global average temperature last year was the ninth-warmest in the modern meteorological record, continuing a trend linked to greenhouse gases that saw nine of the 10 hottest years occurring since the year 2000, NASA scientists said on Thursday.

A separate report from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said the average temperature for the United States in 2011 as the 23rd warmest year on record.

The global average surface temperature for 2011 was 0.92 degrees F (0.51 degrees C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline temperature, researchers at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies said in a statement. The institute’s temperature record began in 1880.

The first 11 years of the new century were notably hotter than the middle and late 20th century, according to institute director James Hansen. The only year from the 20th century that was among the top 10 warmest years was 1998.


2 posted on 01/25/2012 2:26:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Would weaker political domination by the political left delay “manmade global warming”?


3 posted on 01/25/2012 2:28:15 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: NormsRevenge
The first 11 years of the new century were notably hotter than the middle and late 20th century, according to institute director James Hansen.

Three things in life are certain. Death, taxes, and James Hansen will say "last year was the hottest ever" every year.

4 posted on 01/25/2012 2:29:47 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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1-23-12 — UK Meteorological Office
Decline in solar output unlikely to offset global warming
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/solar-output-research


5 posted on 01/25/2012 2:30:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is the "Met," a totally discredited gubbermint bureaucracy. These are the same guys I believe who said five years ago that snow would be a rarity in Great Britain by now.
6 posted on 01/25/2012 2:31:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Has Britain's Meteorological Office ever accurately predicted the local weather five days in advance ? I didn't think so.
7 posted on 01/25/2012 2:31:55 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: NormsRevenge
LONDON (Reuters) - A weaker sun over the next 90 years is not likely to significantly delay a rise in global temperature caused by greenhouse gases, a report said Monday.

A weaker sun for 90 years starting now means we're looking at a second little ice age (LIA2). Dress accordingly...

In real life, the ONLY thing which acts as a quasi greenhouse gas on this planet is water vapor which is why it often appears warmer on cloudy days, look for the stinking demoKKKrats to try to outlaw water and clouds.

8 posted on 01/25/2012 2:33:46 PM PST by varmintman
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To: NormsRevenge

File this one right along with the recent marijuana smoking is good for your lungs report.


9 posted on 01/25/2012 2:35:16 PM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: NormsRevenge
Scientists have warned that more extreme weather is likely across the globe this century as the Earth's climate warms.

Quick, take ALL of our money and save us before it's too late!!!

10 posted on 01/25/2012 2:36:37 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: steelyourfaith

Climate Hustle ping.


11 posted on 01/25/2012 2:38:00 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NormsRevenge
The world is expected to heat up by over 2 degrees Celsius this century due to increased greenhouse gas emissions.

And if it doesn't, this "objective reporter" won't be around to eat crow anyway, so can feel free to assert any kind of rubbish she wants.

12 posted on 01/25/2012 2:38:09 PM PST by Argus
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To: NormsRevenge

Very telling in Yahoo’s comments, almost everyone is blasting this. The public has seen through their ruse, but they still shuffle on like a bunch of zombies groaning “climate chaaaaange!”


13 posted on 01/25/2012 2:38:45 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL, these warmists are fanatically trying to push their bogus theory on us no matter what the evidence.

The sun could literally be on the verge of vanishing tomorrow, and the warmists would report that “disappearance of sun unlikely to reduce threat of global warming”.


14 posted on 01/25/2012 2:40:55 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: NormsRevenge
2011 was ninth-warmest year since 1880:

Someone needs to tell Alaska about this. All those citizens need to know they are imagining the snow and ice that currently covers the whole state and ocean around the country.
15 posted on 01/25/2012 2:58:52 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if they’d care to diagnose what caused the Pleistocene and all of the other ice ages?

I note that there is a NEW era - Anthropocene - the age of AGW since 1950.

Ice is our past and our future. We nearly died out as a species in the last ice age - an eye blink ago in geological time. There were by some estimates as few as 35,000 of us at one point IIRC.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 3:00:42 PM PST by SargeK
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To: NormsRevenge
A weaker sun over the next 90 years is not likely to significantly delay a rise in global temperature caused by greenhouse gases, a report said Monday.

"It's important to note this study is based on a single climate model, rather than multiple models which would capture more of the uncertainties in the climate system," he added.

What a surprise.

Somebody whose livelihood depends on the Global Warming scam builds a model that says that the Earth will continue to warm despite the fact that the source of the fuel for the heat engine that is the Earth will supply less fuel for 90 years.

When will people start reading these doom and gloom stories with a bit more critical eye?

If you give your fire place fewer logs to burn what happens to your home?

17 posted on 01/25/2012 3:01:35 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SargeK

Correction -

Epoch, not era. My bad.

Taxonomy not Mongo’s strong suit...


18 posted on 01/25/2012 3:02:11 PM PST by SargeK
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To: NormsRevenge

19 posted on 01/25/2012 3:11:52 PM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: Army Air Corps; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ApplegateRanch; Whenifhow; ...
Thanx for the ping Army Air Corps !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 01/25/2012 3:17:02 PM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“The study, by Britain’s Meteorological Office and the university of Reading, found that the Sun’s output would decrease up until 2100 but this would only lead to a fall in global temperatures of 0.08 degrees Celsius.”

Nearly snorted tea all over my keyboard. These geniuses are predicting a change in mean global temperatures of eight hundredths of a degree over ninety years!

This is hoot and holler laugh out loud. Their precision is dazzling.


21 posted on 01/25/2012 3:25:05 PM PST by Amadeo
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To: NormsRevenge

Right. Because the Sun has nothing to do with heat.


22 posted on 01/25/2012 3:26:11 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: All

in before the “coming ice age”...


23 posted on 01/25/2012 3:26:54 PM PST by newnhdad (Soylent green is people..)
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To: rfp1234

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24 posted on 01/25/2012 3:37:33 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Global cooling won't stop global warming, either.

Doesn't matter how much it cools off, we just say it's weather, not climate.

Climate is anything that "proves" what we want it to prove, and weather is anything that doesn't.

25 posted on 01/25/2012 4:09:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: NormsRevenge
....found that the Sun's output would decrease up until 2100 but this would only lead to a fall in global temperatures of 0.08 degrees Celsius.

Well they are only off by about 88 years in time prediction and slightly over 100 % off in magnitude. Current global anomaly.

And the sat derived temperature at 14,000 feet (600 mb) is at an all time low (since 2002 when measurements began).


26 posted on 01/25/2012 4:45:40 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: NormsRevenge

Bring on the Global warming. My heating oil bill is killing me.


27 posted on 01/25/2012 4:51:15 PM PST by shipmate148 (teach a man to fish, you know the rest)
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To: NormsRevenge

As one more measure of how completely ridiculous this is, about a week ago on FR was a thread about the University of Alabama report that the lower troposphere was actually colder now than a decade ago.

This is incredibly significant.

There can be NO global warming at ground level. Even the warmists (well the scientific warmists) understand that. If you integrate the radiative transfer equation properly, global warming HAS to occur at the lower troposphere. (The rest of the world then would heat up from convection under their model). But if the lower troposphere is getting colder, then the rest of the measurements are meaningless.

Full stop. The data are in. The theory is fully discredited by direct observation.


28 posted on 01/25/2012 4:51:20 PM PST by c. k. rowdybush
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29 posted on 01/25/2012 9:39:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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In their defense, it’s pretty much impossible to delay something that isn’t happening in the first place. Thanks NormsRevenge.


30 posted on 01/26/2012 7:43:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: NormsRevenge

A colder climate is a horrible way to die. Global warming in the past has led to a flourishing of civilization.

That is if these fewmet sniffing jackals even had the data right and we were faced with global warming.

http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/10/scientist-we-need-more-carbon-dioxide.html
Worse, if CO2 levels are cut, he warns, food production will slow because plants grown at higher CO2 levels make larger fruit and vegetables and also use less water.


31 posted on 01/26/2012 7:51:44 PM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: SunkenCiv
it’s pretty much impossible to delay something that isn’t happening in the first place.

Jeepers! My skin is horribly sensitive to temperature changes of 0.08 degrees, whether F or C.

And in 2100 I'll only be 174 years old.

32 posted on 01/27/2012 5:13:29 PM PST by Ole Okie
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