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Complex Fish Traps Over 7,500 Years Old Found in Russia
Popular Archaeology ^ | Wednesday, January 25, 2012 | unattributed

Posted on 01/26/2012 8:28:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv

An international team of archeologists, led by Ignacio Clemente, a researcher with the Spanish National Research Council, has discovered and documented an assemblage of fish seines and traps in the Dubna Basin near Moscow that are dated to be more than 7,500 years old. They say that the equipment, among the oldest found in Europe, displays a surprisingly advanced technical complexity. The finds illuminate the role of fishing among European settlements of the early Holocene (about 10,000 years ago), particularly where people did not practice agriculture until just before the advent of the Iron Age.

Says Clemente: "Until now, it was thought that the Mesolithic groups had seasonal as opposed to permanent settlements. According to the results obtained during the excavations, in both Mesolithic and Neolithic periods, the human group that lived in the Dubna river basin, near Moscow, carried out productive activities during the entire year".

According to the research team, the Neolithic and Mesolithic inhabitants of the region, known as Zamostje 2, hunted during summer and winter, fished during spring and early summer, and harvested wild berries near the end of the summer and throughout the fall. But Clemente and colleagues suggest that the fishing commanded a salient place in their survival and prosperity. Says Clemente: "We think that the fishing played a vital role in the economy of these societies, because it was a versatile product, easy to preserve, dry and smoke, as well as store for later consumption."

Three years of work have uncovered a variety of artifacts at the site, including everyday objects such as spoons, plates, working tools, hunting weapons, all made from flint and other stones, bones and shafts. Finds included well-preserved organic items of wood, tree leaves, fossil feces and fish remains.

(Excerpt) Read more at popular-archaeology.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; mesolithic; neolithic; russia

1 posted on 01/26/2012 8:28:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 8:30:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Funny that. We haven't changed all that much. After discussing some family financial business tonight, my brother and I discussed a mutual friend that wanted to set up one of his corrals as a feral pig trap.

Something I'm sure wouldn't have been out of place 7500 years ago.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/26/2012 8:38:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SunkenCiv

We continue to underestimate our forebearers.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 8:46:18 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SunkenCiv
They say that the equipment, among the oldest found in Europe, displays a surprisingly advanced technical complexity.

Why are these 'scientists' always surprised to learn that our ancestor were smart?

5 posted on 01/26/2012 8:49:15 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Ramius
My kids continue to underestimate their forebearers.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 8:49:50 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Ramius

Please forebear us the histrionics, grandpa. What could old white Russians know about anyway?

Wait a minute, there I go underesteeming again. Sorry.


7 posted on 01/26/2012 8:54:57 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

Perhaps if they’re fish traps were simpler they’d still be around?


8 posted on 01/26/2012 8:56:48 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not only complex but long lasting fish traps too.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 9:14:47 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SunkenCiv

10 posted on 01/26/2012 9:16:24 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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To: SunkenCiv

Trapping for 7,500 years and they still haven’t caught me! Pllffftt!!


11 posted on 01/26/2012 9:24:10 PM PST by FishinTX (kill terrorists, protect the border, punch hippies)
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To: SunkenCiv

Complex Fish Traps Built by the Caviar Brothers Over 7,500 Years Old Found in Russia


12 posted on 01/26/2012 9:34:27 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Caviar in Russia ?? Who knew?)
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To: SunkenCiv

The story says this all happened in the early homo scene. I wondered where that all started. Russia. That figures.


13 posted on 01/26/2012 9:54:38 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry, destroyer of wealth......)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just a quick ‘thank you’ for the many interesting articles you find and post here at FR!


14 posted on 01/27/2012 12:43:44 AM PST by octex
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To: SunkenCiv

“A brave man it was who first an oyster et”.... James Mitchner Chesapeake


15 posted on 01/27/2012 4:25:03 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: FishinTX

“hunted during summer and winter, fished during spring and early summer, and harvested wild berries near the end of the summer and throughout the fall.”

I remember doing some of that when I was a lad.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 4:38:57 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, we’re born with the urge to fish. Cool.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 8:16:50 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: SunkenCiv
They needed an edge like these traps.

Fish were tougher to catch back then.

18 posted on 01/27/2012 12:46:56 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t have the link anymore, but archeologists found some wooden items in a Danish bog that were 50,000 years old.

Turned out to be a leg hold trap with wooden springs.

Humans naturally preferred makin’ meat the easy way.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 3:46:03 PM PST by darth
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To: darth

Cool, I would like to see more about that.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 6:05:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: bert

The Mussels from Brussels, otoh, were first reported in the early 1980s.


21 posted on 01/28/2012 8:39:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Picts

22 posted on 01/28/2012 8:55:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Outlaw Woman; 1010RD; antisocial; bert; bunkerhill7; colorado tanker; darth; FishinTX; Islander7; ..
Thanks Renfield for the second article with pix.

7,500-Year-Old Fishing Seines and Traps Discovered in Russia 7,500-Year-Old Fishing Seines and Traps Discovered in Russia

23 posted on 01/28/2012 8:01:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: TigersEye
Not only complex but long lasting fish traps too.

They don't make 'em like they used to...

24 posted on 01/28/2012 8:04:18 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SunkenCiv

Very cool, thanks for the ping.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 8:10:11 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you SC :) (your picture this morning was awesome though! *rolling eyes* lol!)


26 posted on 01/28/2012 8:11:54 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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To: SunkenCiv
fishing commanded a salient place in their survival and prosperity

Sounds good to me.

27 posted on 01/28/2012 8:13:03 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: SunkenCiv

Dynomite! I was wondering what they looked like.


28 posted on 01/28/2012 8:31:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They never did. ;^)


29 posted on 01/28/2012 8:32:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Those three are probably regulars at D.U.


30 posted on 01/29/2012 7:40:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: TheOldLady

I think they were born with an urge to eat! :D


31 posted on 01/29/2012 7:47:22 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Islander7; TigersEye

My pleasure.


32 posted on 01/29/2012 8:40:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: aposiopetic

:’)


33 posted on 01/29/2012 8:42:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Could be, but I think there is one or two that keeps surfacing here on FR; telling everyone how conservative they are and infiltrating the state boards. Somebody keeps forgetting to shut the back door!


34 posted on 01/29/2012 10:58:33 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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To: Outlaw Woman

They don’t last long. :’)


35 posted on 01/29/2012 11:42:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Ditter
LOL! Indeed.   ;-)
36 posted on 01/29/2012 6:59:36 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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