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Does America Have Too Many Laws in the Books? (VANITY)

Posted on 01/29/2012 9:45:19 AM PST by pinochet

One of America's Founding Fathers, John Adams, wanted to create "a government of laws, not of men". This statement is one of the most misunderstood in American history. The communist governments of Cuba, China, and North Korea, are nations with many laws in their books, but they are not what John Adams had in mind.

America's founding fathers created a constitution that was deliberately designed to starve the federal government of revenue. This is why they refused to impose a federal income tax on the American people, and the federal government had to survive on revenues raised from import duties.

In the 19th century, the US Congress passed many laws. However, because the constitution outlawed the income tax, the federal government was unable to raise enough revenue to employ government bureaucrats to enforce those laws. The federal government was forced by its limited budget to enforce only the important laws - those protecting the lives, liberty, and property of the American people. Today, the federal government has the revenues to employ numerous bureaucrats to enforce even minor and unconstitutional laws, that limit the rights of Americans to their liberty and property.

The late Barry Goldwater understood that you cannot cut the size of government, unless you are willing to get rid of the many irrelevant laws in the books, in order to justify the firing of the numerous government bureaucrats who enforce those laws. In "The Conscience of a Conservative", published in 1960, Goldwater said that:

"...I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is "needed" before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' "interests," I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can..."


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KEYWORDS: conservatism; goldwater; laws
Imagine if we had a Republican President in office, who pledged that 90 percent of his legislative initiatives, would be to repeal the laws in the books, rather than to pass new laws. This would justify firing the hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats, who enforce those laws. America needs to get rid of the Department of Education, the IRS, the EPA, the NEA, the DEA, the EEOC, and other departments that limit individual rights and property rights. The restoration of the American freedoms requires the repeal of the Sixteenth Ammendment to the American Constitution (which was passed in 1913), in order to restore the system of government that the Founding Fathers intended the American people to have.
1 posted on 01/29/2012 9:45:31 AM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

More quotes from Barry Goldwater:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater


2 posted on 01/29/2012 9:47:28 AM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

That quote from Goldwater’s book is one of my favorites, which is why it is on my FR Profile page.

We are so far from the intent of the Founders, it is deeply frightening.


3 posted on 01/29/2012 9:49:02 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pinochet

This is NOT the America our founders envisioned. If they saw the country today ... they probably would not have made the sacrifices that they did. We as a society don’t deserve the freedoms they fought so hard to give to us. We should be deeply ashamed of ourselves.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 9:49:40 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: pinochet
Does America Have Too Many Laws in the Books?

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5 posted on 01/29/2012 9:50:39 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: pinochet
Does America Have Too Many Laws in the Books?

Duh.

Ayn Rand

6 posted on 01/29/2012 9:52:27 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: pinochet

Sounds kinda like Ron Paul, no?


7 posted on 01/29/2012 9:52:35 AM PST by mangonc2
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To: pinochet

My vote is yes.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 9:52:49 AM PST by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: pinochet

BTW, for future reference, vanity posts should generally be put in “Chat”, not “News”.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 9:54:03 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pinochet

BTW, for future reference, vanity posts should generally be put in “Chat”, not “News”.


10 posted on 01/29/2012 9:54:03 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pinochet

Sadly, we have conservatives just as eager as liberals to pass more laws to to solve “problems”..............


11 posted on 01/29/2012 9:54:21 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: pinochet

At the rate we’re going, simply asking that question might be a felony.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 9:54:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dayglored; pinochet

... And only once!!!

( sorry about the double post)


13 posted on 01/29/2012 9:55:56 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pinochet
Even in my small state, South Dakota, our legislature meeting for no more 40 days (35 in even years)still churns out hundreds of new laws each year. Granted some bills are to clean up legislative mistakes from previous years, but each session still finds plenty of new things to address in statute. I am fully convinced of the truth of the old maxim "...No man's life, liberty or property are safe when the legislature is in session."
14 posted on 01/29/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: cripplecreek

There are so many laws on the books that any prosecutor that wants to put in jail can.

http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594032556


15 posted on 01/29/2012 10:03:00 AM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: pinochet

!!! .......Agree Bookmarked !!


16 posted on 01/29/2012 10:08:00 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: pinochet
If the district attorney wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.

The Constitution is being ignored.

17 posted on 01/29/2012 10:10:44 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: pinochet

“And now bills were passed, not only for national objects but for individual cases, and laws were most numerous when the commonwealth was most corrupt.”

Publius Tacitus or Gaius Cornelius Tacitus (ca. 56–ca. 117), Roman orator, lawyer, and senator.

Most often quoted as, “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”


18 posted on 01/29/2012 10:14:47 AM PST by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: pinochet

One can never have too many laws, citizen...


19 posted on 01/29/2012 10:33:09 AM PST by null and void (Day 1104 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

(’Atlas Shrugged’ 1957)


20 posted on 01/29/2012 10:35:31 AM PST by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: pinochet

Yes.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:18 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: pinochet

22 posted on 01/29/2012 10:47:44 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: clamper1797
This is NOT the America our founders envisioned. If they saw the country today ... they probably would not have made the sacrifices that they did. We as a society don’t deserve the freedoms they fought so hard to give to us. We should be deeply ashamed of ourselves.

I feel the same way.

23 posted on 01/29/2012 10:52:50 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: pinochet

Yes, and more so at the Federal level than in the states; even though some states too need to cull the useless and redundant, and splintered dead wood out of their criminal and civil law code registers.


24 posted on 01/29/2012 11:00:16 AM PST by Wuli
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To: pinochet

Imagine if we actually still even had a Republican Party. We don’t. The current spawn are as evel, corrupt, and owned by China as the DEMs.


25 posted on 01/29/2012 11:01:18 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Family Guy

““The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”

There is a reason old sayings are old sayings; their truth.

Does anyone have an idea about how many laws and regulation with the force of law have been enacted by our Federal government since 1789? Broken down by year or Congress would be even more interesting.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 11:37:12 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: pinochet

Without early American morality (Puritan, early American Presbyterian, Huguenot, all), we’ll soon have nothing.


27 posted on 01/29/2012 12:02:36 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: pinochet

I have read that when Dolly Madison fled the WH in the war of 1812, she took the entire collection of Federal Laws on the books consisting of three volumes.

How many carriages would be needed to remove the books of Federal laws today!


28 posted on 01/29/2012 12:19:58 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: pinochet
Does America Have Too Many Laws in the Books?

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian (A.D. c.56 - c. 115)

Tacitus (c. 56/57-ca. 125) was a Roman orator and historian. In a life that spanned the reigns of the Flavian emperors and of Trajan and Hadrian, he played a part in the public life of Rome and became its greatest historian.

29 posted on 01/29/2012 2:40:43 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: pinochet

How many citizens have read any law?


30 posted on 01/29/2012 2:47:23 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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How many citizens have read any law?

When the bills and laws passed in one day have to be brought in by boxes I doubt many. How many of our elected to the houses read any law before voting? ZERO!

31 posted on 01/29/2012 3:39:18 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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