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Man shoots himself at East Knoxville gun show(TN)
WATE-TV ^ | 01-29-12 | staff

Posted on 01/29/2012 7:14:51 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae

KNOXVILLE (WATE) - A man was taken to the hospital Sunday afternoon after shooting himself in the hand at a gun show.

Gun dealer Bill Adams, 64, of Kodak, was taking a concealed gun out to show a customer, when the gun discharged and shot him in the hand.

Knoxville Police said the man removed the magazine from the .45 semiautomatic Kimber handgun, but a shell remained in the chamber.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; dummy; gunshow; knoxville
Very very fortunate that this did not end up with a death or serious injury. This fellow must have left his copy of "Firearms safety rules" at home.
1 posted on 01/29/2012 7:15:01 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae
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To: deoetdoctrinae
IBPOBF

(In before picture of Barney Fife)

2 posted on 01/29/2012 7:16:35 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

The chambered round is the one that kills you.


3 posted on 01/29/2012 7:17:50 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Even I know to treat every gun as a loaded gun.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 7:20:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Don’t the rules of disallowing loaded firearms apply to dumbass dealers?


5 posted on 01/29/2012 7:22:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

“... taking a concealed gun out...”

out of where? might be lucky he didn’t shoot himself in a worse place than his hand.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 7:22:50 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Stupid is as stupid does. Messed up three times. Didn’t clear the chamber. Pointed the weapon at something he didn’t intend to shoot (of course, he could’ve been demonstrating .45 cal effect on flesh and bone). Pulled the trigger. Maybe he’ll remember next time.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 7:25:33 PM PST by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Don’t the rules of disallowing loaded firearms apply to dumbass dealers?

Yup. I'll bet he won't have a table at the next show.

8 posted on 01/29/2012 7:26:26 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Jonty30
You are correct!

1.All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2.Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)
3.Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
4.Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

9 posted on 01/29/2012 7:26:36 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yeah, he screwed up in a number of ways.

An organizer with the gun show tells 6 News that loaded weapons are not allowed at gun shows and the man broke the rules by bringing the handgun into the show.

10 posted on 01/29/2012 7:28:36 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
Gun dealer Bill Adams, 64, of Kodak, was taking a concealed gun out to show a customer, when the gun discharged and shot him in the hand.

Thanks for nothing, dumbass.

11 posted on 01/29/2012 7:31:10 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

I wonder how many “secondhand” gun smoke complaints they got.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 7:31:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Your President's DOJ is taking the Fifth Amendment! How do you feel about that?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

My gun club in Western Kansas had a fatality at our annual gun show around 1986 or 87. It happened when they were going around checking to make sure all the guns were unloaded. This was before the show opened.

The story I heard was when the guy picked up a Remington 700 in 7mm Mag. it went off. The bullet hit a woman in the head killing her instantly. We carried on with the show but it just sort of ruined it for everyone.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 7:34:06 PM PST by yarddog
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To: deoetdoctrinae
"the gun discharged and shot him in the hand."

Guns do nothing other than collect dust and cast shadows.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 7:37:42 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
I went to a gun show this past Saturday with the Missus.

They had LEOs at the door.

LEO - "Are you in possession of any firearms sir?"
Me - "No sir. That's what I'm here for!"
LEO - "Right on!"

Gave us a little chuckle.

15 posted on 01/29/2012 7:41:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL! I think this is hilarious. Poor Bastards. Gonna catch hell isn’t even the start of it.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 7:49:18 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Wonder if he’ll make a deal on that used Kimber.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 8:00:08 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

It should be cheap, cause it’s obviously defective. LOL.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 8:06:37 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
the gun show i went to here today was quiet by comparison, nobody got shot... but i did get an A case and a B case of MRE's for $100
19 posted on 01/29/2012 8:07:45 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Good deal! Let me have your cherry crumb cake if you’re not gonna eat it. LOL


20 posted on 01/29/2012 8:13:51 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: eyedigress

It is funny, but the antigunners will hold this doofus up as their poster child. This we don’t need.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

I wonder if the hole in his hand is the “gun show loophole”.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 8:48:26 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Slings and Arrows

Aah! At least the Knoxville gun show guys don’t crap on NYC police cars. These are interesting times.


23 posted on 01/29/2012 8:53:32 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Seems like a pretty “handy” fellow.

What kind of frickin moron doesn’t clear the weapon?


24 posted on 01/29/2012 9:42:17 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: eyedigress
At least the Knoxville gun show guys don’t crap on NYC police cars.

This is a fact.

25 posted on 01/29/2012 9:58:04 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
I no longer attend gun shows, nor public shooting ranges. Not that I'm better than everyone else, not that I'm pointing fingers.

Human being do stupid things from time to time. Every darned one of us.

26 posted on 01/29/2012 10:01:57 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " ....Jesus)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
I used to work at our family's small lumber re-manufacturing plant. Several million board feet of lumber passed though my hands. One day we were running wood through one of our moulders making siding out of a batch of wood that had been cut very badly. Some pieces would go from about an inch thick on one end up to 3 or four inches on the other.

The machine had a hellaciously powerful motor on the top head, but as it tore the thick ends into shavings it would sometimes draw so much current that it would blow one of the 480v 3 phase fuses. The fuses were used because they could handle a larger amount of over-current than breakers for this type of application.

Each time a fuse would blow I would turn off the main disconnect to the machine, open up the motor controller box and pull out each of the three fuses which were protecting the motor and shake them to see which one had blown. They were about 8” long and 1” thick with brass ends that fit into the fuse holders. About the 12th time I got into the motor controller box I forgot to pull the disconnect and grabbed a live 480v fuse while standing on a wet concrete floor.

That was a pretty stupid thing to do and I got one heck of a jolt for my trouble. I knew better, but frustration with that repetitive task that day caused me to become complacent. It is my habit to always pull the bolt back on any semiautomatic handgun, rifle or shotgun and look and feel for shell before assuming the chamber is empty. It probably was this poor guy's habit also, but for some reason this time he didn't. The hand with the new hole in it will probably never be the same. If it had happened to someone else he probably would be jumping on the bandwagon with everyone else here.

My point is... it is often people who think it could never happen to them who are most vulnerable to this type of mishap. I have done enough stupid things in my life that I know that I am more lucky than good. It helps me to be more careful and develop better habits when I remind myself that I am just as capable as the next guy of grabbing the business end of a live 480v fuse while standing in a puddle of water. Don't ever think that you are so smart that you couldn't make a stupid mistake because you can... if you are sure you can't... eventually you probably will.

27 posted on 01/29/2012 10:32:14 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Idiot. Idiot. Then again, I repeat myself.


28 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:47 PM PST by Oiao (Socialism Kills)
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To: fireman15

That is a good point. We have to constantly remind ourselves to be super careful with guns. I always pride myself on my safe gun handling but around 6 months ago I dropped a small French Unique on the floor.

Nothing happened but it was a very old gun which probably did not have a firing pin block. If it had fallen on it’s hammer it may very well have fired.

That is the pistol I routinely stick in my pocket when walking around the yard or the woods around the house. Never let yourself get careless.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 6:00:21 AM PST by yarddog
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To: fireman15; yarddog
I hear you about complacency. I had something really strange happen a few years ago that almost certainly permanently evaporated my complacency when it comes to guns. I had a 1911 pistol in deep storage. It had been off to a smith for a trigger job a couple years prior to that, and I had taken it to the range exactly once afterwards. I cleaned it (which with me is always a thorough disassembly) and stored it. Anyway, when I took it out of storage I did a few quick draws from concealment and was ABOUT to do a spot of dry firing when on a whim I decided to clear the action. Lo and behold, there was a live round in the chamber!

I have wracked my brains trying to imagine the scenario by which that round got chambered. The only thing I can come up with is there must have been a single round in the magazine that I inserted into the gun when I reassembled it. The part that troubles me is that I don't have any recollecting of cycling the action to chamber the round. But one way or the other it has convinced me that truly "all guns are always loaded". I clear any gun, even if I KNOW it isn't loaded...it doesn't hurt to clear the action. Just do it.

30 posted on 01/30/2012 11:57:22 AM PST by jboot
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To: yarddog

I was at a local gun show and was asked about any concealed firearms I had on me. Stupidly, I said yes. They wanted to take it out of the holster and unchamber it. MUCH more dangerous than me keeping it in the holster.

I walked out.....and learned never to let people know you are carrying.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 6:19:55 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
the .45 semiautomatic Kimber handgun

That is what I carry. You need to do no less than 4 things to make it go bang.....2 of them concurrently.

Clear the holster (possibly no holster in this case).

Drop the thumb safety.

Push in the grip safety.

while at the same time pulling the trigger.



Then, and only then, will it go bang.
32 posted on 01/30/2012 6:24:16 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Yea but if he was trying to shoot himself he did good..he hit his target...


33 posted on 01/30/2012 6:30:56 PM PST by goat granny
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