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No Pet For You
Slate ^ | January 26, 2012 | Emily Yoffe

Posted on 01/29/2012 7:56:10 PM PST by Altariel

No Pet For You Want to adopt a dog or cat? Prepare for an inquisition at the animal rescue.

eople who rescue animals can be reluctant to believe anyone deserves the furry creatures. Some rescue groups think potential owners shouldn’t have full-time jobs. Others reject families with children. Some rescuers think apartment dwelling is OK for humans but not for dogs, or object to a cat’s litter box being placed in a basement. Some say no to people who would let a dog run around the fenced backyard “unsupervised,” or allow a cat outside, ever.

It used to be that people who wanted to get an abandoned or abused animal went to the local pound, saw one they liked, paid a small fee, and drove home with a new pet. Since the 1990s, however, the movement to reduce animal euthanasia and the arrival of the Internet have given rise to a new breed of rescuer. These are private groups, or even individuals, who create networks of volunteers to care for needy animals.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
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I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.
1 posted on 01/29/2012 7:56:22 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

This is so true! We ended up with a chocolate lab mix from the pound who gets to run around on 3 acres. After having her a year, I’m glad the animal adoption people dragged their feet. My dog’s better anyway!


2 posted on 01/29/2012 8:01:22 PM PST by GoDuke
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To: Altariel

Then don’t expect a free pet.


3 posted on 01/29/2012 8:01:29 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Altariel

PAWS would rather put down an animal than place it for adoption. They have the worst record of animal euthanasia.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 8:03:50 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: Altariel

I have no problem with animals rescue places making rules & requirements before adopting out an animal.
I’ve adopted 2 cats & 2 dogs from rescue organizations that had requirements before they’d let you adopt.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:15 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Altariel

If they don’t think an apartment is a suitable environment for a pet, it shows their level of ignorance as to how big a canine’s den is or the size of a place a wildcat keeps.

What matters is that I’m giving adequate exercise to it, not the size of an apartment.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 8:10:07 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: nuconvert

Abut twenty years ago they asked me “who was going to car for my puppy while I was working” I refused to quit my job hence they turned me down. No puppy.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 8:12:20 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: nuconvert

Abut twenty years ago they asked me “who was going to car for my puppy while I was working” I refused to quit my job hence they turned me down. No puppy.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 8:12:28 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

9 posted on 01/29/2012 8:14:10 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel

I got this treatment, three page form, agreement to allow them to come and follow up and verify the info, third degree etc., for a sickly little five month old kitty they had named Franklin.

We never heard from them again, though we kept the name. Franklin is 13 years old.


10 posted on 01/29/2012 8:15:32 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: 1rudeboy
Then don’t expect a free pet.

The shelters don't provide a free pet. They charge a small fee.

If you want a free pet you should hang out along the river and pull in burlap sacks. Once in awhile, one out of five burlap sacks will have something twitching. The rest will have the makings of a fine gumbo.

11 posted on 01/29/2012 8:16:44 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Donnafrflorida

I think my answer might have been along the lines of, “My Doberman” will look after it.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 8:17:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Altariel

That’s the great thing about America, people can set their own rules for things and if you don’t like them you can find a place you do like.

If a place had requirements I didn’t like, I’d adopt from some place I could deal with their requirements.

And please no idiot responses about racist or gender rules that obviously are illegal. If they were stupid enough to have such policies I’d be grateful to know because I wouldn’t want a thing to do with them just because of that.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 8:20:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
They charge a small fee.

Among other things. If you can't handle them, leave.

14 posted on 01/29/2012 8:22:29 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Donnafrflorida

So from this one experience did you stop going to other shelters to see if you could adopt, or go back once in awhile to see if the shelter changed its policies, or did you let this one time turn you off forever and assume all shelters were the same as this one?


15 posted on 01/29/2012 8:22:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Altariel

Having 100% rescue and pund animals and having worked with the rescues for years, I know our groups were careful, but quick. I’ve done the pre-screen work as well. We worked on adopting the most difficult dogs, Great Danes, since they are very often destructive in their puppy years (I mean they eat couches!) And people get one and don’t understand the scale of having a moose in the house. Our most recent Dane came to us after being returned to the rescue 2 times and he is deaf. He is a sweety, and needed to learn boundaries, but a novice Dane owner would have been in too deep for their own good. This is exactly why he was returned 2 times and why they are careful on adoptions. Also we had (and still have) an owner surrender female already who was more than capable in being a role model for him and bigger than him so he couldn’t bully her. These kind of dogs need extra careful placement, a dog that is 180+ Lbs. Is NOT a dog to give to someone without serious consideration.

I also know the cat rescue people do the impossible, they get a fee for cats. Our 2 cats are rescue and I paid 100 bucks for one of them because it will save more cats in the future. Kittens in the paper are still free.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 8:22:58 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @KingCorey_Com)
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To: Altariel

We adopted a black lab from a lab rescue society in DFW.

They do look you over. They even looked all over my house.

It seemed a little extreme, but they are wonderful people and we got a great dog, not free, but reasonable.

However, my niece, who is an extreme dog lover works and leaves her dogs in the yard. Some rescue group wouldn’t let her have a dog because of this.

They may have gone a little overboard, some of them anyway.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 8:23:19 PM PST by altura
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To: nuconvert

I think it’s good to ensure a prospective pet owner will treat his pet well. I think that it’s good to match a pet to an owner based on lifestyle, or kids, or whatever.

Unfortunately, a lot of these pet rescue groups are run by anti-humans who believe that no human should ever own pets and, if they had their way, we’d all be locked within teeming cities completely devoid of animals.


18 posted on 01/29/2012 8:23:50 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
That's the point--you want to adopt from a shelter that sets rules.
19 posted on 01/29/2012 8:24:39 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Altariel

My terrier mix was a street rescue puppy. And he stays outdoors on a long trolley-line in good weather as he will jump or climb the chain link fence. I take him to work some days and to the oil patch when I can. Found him seven years ago and he’s asleep at my feet as I write this. Never barks, too friendly with strangers, and will chase any cat he sees.


20 posted on 01/29/2012 8:26:17 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: nuconvert

I didn’t mind the questions either. They did put a chip in the dog though, and the contact info goes back to them which I don’t like. But it was a bunch of money to have the chip removed and replaced. He’s got his dog tags, so hopefully anybody finding him would call us first. (And a fenced yard!)

And he was NOT cheap. IIRC it was something like $250 to buy him. (Plus a larger dog crate, new dog dishes as my wife and son couldn’t stand the thought of him using our old dog’s ones, new toys, etc. Plus the first vet visit to get him checked out and neutered which the adoption place was going to return $50 on the price for when we mailed them the proof but they never did. And then when he chewed up and swallowed a plastic wiffle ball within the first month that my wife freaked out about, with vet’s bills, xrays, etc. Cheap my a55!)

Love him - but not cheap!


21 posted on 01/29/2012 8:29:23 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: 1rudeboy

I bet you’re a load of fun at parties!

Oh, sorry.

Maybe, someday, you’ll experience one...


22 posted on 01/29/2012 8:29:23 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Altariel
Kittens for Bengal
23 posted on 01/29/2012 8:33:37 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("None of the above" ain't running.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Adopting a shelter animal is NOT free. There is usually a multi-hundred-dollar charge to adopt.

Our family went through this too. The problem was that although I had owned many dogs over the years, it was long ago in another part of the US, so I couldn’t provide vet references from a small-animal vet. We finally did adopt but not from a shelter. We have two dogs now. They have the perfect life.


24 posted on 01/29/2012 8:34:58 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Altariel; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; asgardshill; ...

25 posted on 01/29/2012 8:35:24 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Jonty30

Local shelters generally are not like this. It’s these national organizations that really don’t do rescue but just put sad commercials out for fundraising, appearing to be a group that saves animals all over the nation.

Local shelter people want animals adopted. They would love to place all animals instead of being over capacity and having to put some down.

No-kill shelters pick and choose and will refuse taking in animals when they are full - so these then go on to county animal shelters that don’t refuse surrenders, and have to have the burden of doing the no-kill’s work for them. They get to have ‘clean hands’ because other shelters are mandated to take in animals even when full.

Shelters have refined requirements over the years because they have learned certain general warning signs that can lead to the animal being returned to them - which defeats the purpose and wasted time - or abandoned again. Many shelters also develop profiles of the animals via socialization to see if certain animals would be good with kids, or prefer quiet, are high energy, may have special needs, etc. They spend a lot of time trying to make better matches with prospective adopters to improve the odds the animal won’t be surrendered and both animal and people are good fits for the other. Not every place can do this but more and more are. They just have so many animals coming in they really want to cut down on re-surrenders.

I’ve never met people in the local shelters, and I’ve known them all from adoption counselors, to shelter managers, to executive directors and facilities managers, that they all are really pro-pet owner - if they weren’t, there’d be no animals ever leaving the building. They all want their adoption numbers to go up and their euthanasia numbers to go down. Most of them I know have at least one animal they’ve adopted from their shelter.

Don’t confuse the large national groups with your local shelter people. Many of them don’t even realize the anti-pet mentality of HSUS or PETA.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 8:36:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jonty30

In my experience the rescue groups are far,far better than the town shelter.

When we adopted through a rescue group there was no paper work, no threat of follow up, just got to know us a bit and done.

That cat lived twenty years.


27 posted on 01/29/2012 8:39:07 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, friend, every business and every place has rules. There are no shelters that are just going to give you an animal no questions asked. They have a responsibility to ensure the animals are placed in a safe environment. No rules for adopting out is not living up to that responsibility.

You want that, go to craigslist and get an animal someone offering up there.


28 posted on 01/29/2012 8:40:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My local SPCA is excellent in that regard. But I know a lot of these animal advocacy groups are often run by shrills, who should not be anywhere near an animal.

If I was to get a dog, I’d probably go to the SPCA or city pound to pick one up.


29 posted on 01/29/2012 8:41:31 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Piss off. Maybe when you grow up, you can adopt an animal (from a reputable organization).


30 posted on 01/29/2012 8:42:13 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Altariel
In general most shelters private and public funded seem too be ran by persons who think they are running human adoption agencies. I'm thinking Animal Planet must stay on their TV 24/7 especially Animal Precinct. Craigslist under pet giveaway is even worse in some cases. We got our last dog that way but it took a month to find a person who didn't want home inspections and answering a thousand irrelevant questions.

Best bet really is asking your Vet. Generally they either have animals dumped on them needing homes or know serious persons that are wanting good homes and you don't have fill out applications and deal with Kooks etc.

31 posted on 01/29/2012 8:42:43 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jonty30

In fact most areas do not have any presence of any of the national radical pet organizations. If anything they may have some educational relationship with local shleters but the shelters pretty much determine what they want to do, not HSUS.

I have adopted from our local shelter and from the state rescue group for the animals I live with. Both are good. I spent time making the section better for the animals I adopt (small animals) - which are always third in line - if that - behind cats and dogs. They have a great program now because a lot of us pushed for it and spent volunteer time there.


32 posted on 01/29/2012 8:45:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Piss off. Maybe when you grow up, you can adopt an animal (from a reputable organization).

As I, and others, said, shelter pets aren't free. You don't seem to understand that.

Why are you hostile? It's not our fault that nobody invites you out for parties. Maybe you should stop eating your boogers in public.

33 posted on 01/29/2012 8:49:16 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Oh, gosh . . . maybe I am involved in the industry. Idiot.


34 posted on 01/29/2012 8:51:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Altariel

I have read some of the replies here and think the rescue people are nuts. We were going to adopt 2 kittens to keep them together and when we showed up to pick them up, they changed the rules.

Instead of $25 each, it went up to over $100 for both and we were supposed to fill out a 4 page form. We said never mind. We were doing THEM a favor, not the other way around.

Shortly afterwards, we took in a problem cat from a co-worker of my wife. We already have 2 cats. As far as cost, I gave away 6 Lab puppies this weekend. I will have my male fixed. Always had just females, and we took in a pair (male and female) to go with the Lab female we already had, from someone who could no longer care for them. The male got busy and both females had puppies.

I think the rescue people get too attached to the animals in their care. I would NEVER agree to allow someone to come to my house to inspect it just to get a dog or cat. I am not real eager to allow anyone around my place. And I can get animals (dogs or cats) much easier from anywhere else. Even the pound is cheaper and easier.

I can respect their saving animals but I feel their rules are far too intrusive and my wife & I both agree, we won’t waste our time with them again.


35 posted on 01/29/2012 8:53:01 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: cva66snipe

I wish they would focus on the person seeking the adoption. A few questions is all it takes to know if someone is capable of the adoption. Likewise, those not obviously capable can be educated on what’s needed.

I have done it both ways, dogs and cats, and prefer the get to know/educate to the inquisition every time.

JMHO


36 posted on 01/29/2012 8:53:56 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: 1rudeboy
Oh, gosh . . . maybe I am involved in the industry. Idiot.

No.

You're just a worthless mouthbreathing half-wit of no concern.

Jump up and down in place and shake your fists and feel important...freak.

37 posted on 01/29/2012 8:55:48 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: altura

I guess that I would be unable to get a dog from them also. My 3 labs live outdoors 24/7. That’s why I got them-large outdoor dogs. They have one job to do for me-keep people out of my backyard-and they are very good at it.


38 posted on 01/29/2012 8:55:55 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: 1rudeboy

I don’t. After my experience the last time, my wife & I agree-we’ll never go back.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 8:57:10 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: packrat35

I’m just going to throw this out there: if an animal is rescued from an abusive environment, what purpose is served by sending that animal to the next person who walks in the door? Why not just put the animal down?


40 posted on 01/29/2012 8:57:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Altariel
I adopted two kittens last year from a rescue group after seeing them in a Petsmart. I handled the kittens, and then filled out an application. They also gave me a phone interview, but they didn't ask anything I would not have asked of someone taking a kitten from me.

In return for $75, each kitteh was healthy, spayed, and chipped. They had spent weeks in a home with a family and were thoroughly socialized and friendly; they only needed to build trust in me.

I can understand their concern for how they place their animals. People do impulsive things, and not everybody has any business with a pet.
41 posted on 01/29/2012 8:58:09 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Grizzled Bear

Oh, my . . . you wanted to adopt a puppy and someone turned you down. Meanwhile, I’m busting my ass every day to keep animals away from people like you.


42 posted on 01/29/2012 8:59:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: packrat35

Excellent point, just how I feel about it. It’s a fine line between verifying ability and being an intrusive ass. If they could verify through a few questions and maybe a reference that you are a responsible pet owner that should be enough.

That’s the best way I think. Though I have suffered their intrusion at least once (Franklin was worth it ;-))


43 posted on 01/29/2012 9:01:57 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: free me
I wish they would focus on the person seeking the adoption. A few questions is all it takes to know if someone is capable of the adoption. Likewise, those not obviously capable can be educated on what’s needed.

That's true. I could see that. But the idea to pay them in some case $150 and they INVITE themselves to inspect your home I will never agree too. I would pay the $150 or more for a pet I wanted.

I can even give them the name of my Vet to vouch that I do get my pets required shots and a lot more as well. Our two Rattys live like queens. Friends and family jokingly ask us too adopt them also.

44 posted on 01/29/2012 9:03:06 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: packrat35

I am the same way. I have 4 cats, all very well cared for. If someone gave me the 3rd degree and threatened to visit my home to check up on me, I would walk. Sad too, as they would be very well cared for.

This has gone from finding animals a good home to some kind of big brotherish inquisition, and I wont tolerate that invasion of my privacy.


45 posted on 01/29/2012 9:05:22 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: packrat35

I now get my pets from other sources also. The last time I went to a shelter to adopt a kitten, they asked if I was going to have it declawed. That was a deal breaker for them. They also wanted to check my home. A deal breaker for me. My question is, would they rather have a declawed kitten (which is minor surgery for a kitten) or a dead kitten because no one adopts it?


46 posted on 01/29/2012 9:06:18 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Not sure how that question applies to anything I said. I don’t mind answering a few questions and paying some cost, but I would NEVER allow someone to inspect my home or allow other intrusions to my life just to get a dog or cat.

Like I said, I feel I am doing THEM a favor by adopting the dog or cat, not the other way around. I have had dogs or cats or both all my life and I never had to put up with that crap and I sure as hell ain’t going to start now.


47 posted on 01/29/2012 9:08:01 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Uh, dead kitten.


48 posted on 01/29/2012 9:08:01 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: packrat35
Well, there ya' go--the immovable object meets the irrestible force. In my opinion, there is no point in taking an animal from an (arguably) abusive environment and placing them in a (potentially) abusive environment.

But what do I know? I only save animals from rescue shelters. /s

49 posted on 01/29/2012 9:11:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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irrestible = irresistible


50 posted on 01/29/2012 9:13:34 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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