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Mysterious 'Winged' Structure from Ancient Rome Discovered [UK]
LiveScience ^ | Sunday, January 22, 2012 | Owen Jarus

Posted on 01/30/2012 4:03:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv

A recently discovered mysterious "winged" structure in England, which in the Roman period may have been used as a temple, presents a puzzle for archaeologists, who say the building has no known parallels.

Built around 1,800 years ago, the structure was discovered in Norfolk, in eastern England, just to the south of the ancient town of Venta Icenorum. The structure has two wings radiating out from a rectangular room that in turn leads to a central room.

"Generally speaking, [during] the Roman Empire people built within a fixed repertoire of architectural forms," said William Bowden, a professor at the University of Nottingham, who reported the find in the most recent edition of the Journal of Roman Archaeology. The investigation was carried out in conjunction with the Norfolk Archaeological and Historical Research Group.

The winged shape of the building appears to be unique in the Roman Empire, with no other example known. "It's very unusual to find a building like this where you have no known parallels for it," Bowden told LiveScience. "What they were trying to achieve by using this design is really very difficult to say."

The building appears to have been part of a complex that includes a villa to the north and at least two other structures to the northeast and northwest. An aerial photograph suggests the existence of an oval or polygonal building with an apse located to the east...

Sometime after the demise of this wing-shaped structure, another building, this one decorated, was built over it. Archaeologists found post holes from it with painted wall plaster inside.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; romanempire
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The Y-shaped Roman structure, discovered in eastern England in the Norfolk area, can be seen in this aerial shot. Nothing like it has been discovered before from the Roman Empire. Sometime later another Roman structure (whose postholes can be seen) was built on top of it. [CREDIT: Michael Page] This diagram shows the Y-shaped Roman building, which dates back around 1,800 years. Sometime later another Roman structure, whose postholes remain, was built on top of it. [CREDIT: William Bowden] The archaeological team inside the postholes from the later Roman building. Decorated wall plaster was excavated from them. [CREDIT: William Bowden]

1 posted on 01/30/2012 4:03:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Another wild story for George Norey.


2 posted on 01/30/2012 4:05:30 AM PST by MachIV
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


3 posted on 01/30/2012 4:10:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 01/30/2012 4:14:32 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SunkenCiv

"...probably a local structure, likely an asylum built to hold people who constantly dug holes claiming discoveries"

5 posted on 01/30/2012 4:15:19 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SunkenCiv

First thing that comes to my mind is a barracks with horse stables...likely temporary, but then what do I know...


6 posted on 01/30/2012 4:20:58 AM PST by reed13k (Knight Rampant Bibliophile, Protector of Knowledge, Purveyor of Inquiry, Defender of Aged Wisdom, an)
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To: MachIV
Cargo Cult caused by a stealth bomber getting caught in a time warp and appearing in the skies above.

Happens all the time.

7 posted on 01/30/2012 4:23:13 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: SunkenCiv

Awesomeness. I love the stories that the old buildings tell. In this case, so little is left of it, but it says so much.


8 posted on 01/30/2012 4:24:52 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s an ancient alien landing site. Call Colonel O’Niel and Tielk.


9 posted on 01/30/2012 4:25:27 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: SunkenCiv

Here we go!! Now wtch for the guy with the wild hair on ‘Ancient Aliens’ to flesh out another bizzare scenario about what it is


10 posted on 01/30/2012 4:31:14 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: reed13k

It looks like an early hospital/nursing home or asylum design. A prison would not have had the open courtyard.


11 posted on 01/30/2012 4:36:53 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: SunkenCiv
...may have been used as a temple...

Or not.

12 posted on 01/30/2012 4:38:47 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: SunkenCiv

According to commenter Wayne, its a theater, CLEARLY.

LOL


13 posted on 01/30/2012 4:41:56 AM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: SunkenCiv

Kinda neat. I don’t recall a single Roman structure without square, rectangular or circular features. This is the first parallelogram I’ve seen.


14 posted on 01/30/2012 4:51:21 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: SunkenCiv

1800 years ago, someone decided to play a trick on the archeologists of the future.


15 posted on 01/30/2012 5:04:38 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Happy Rain

LOL


16 posted on 01/30/2012 5:47:52 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Nothing like it has been discovered before from the Roman Empire.
The first Y-MCA. Who knew?


17 posted on 01/30/2012 5:52:27 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
My theory has been confirmed: The Village People were, in fact, time travelers.


18 posted on 01/30/2012 6:04:05 AM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: RobertClark

LOL they’re actually performing here in Indy tonight as part of the pre-Superbowl festivities.


19 posted on 01/30/2012 6:05:24 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Apollo5600

“It’s an ancient alien landing site. Call Colonel O’Niel and Tielk.”

Indeed.

:)


20 posted on 01/30/2012 6:06:52 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: SMARTY
Now wtch for the guy with the wild hair on ‘Ancient Aliens’ to flesh out another bizzare scenario about what it is.


21 posted on 01/30/2012 6:14:36 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: SunkenCiv

If they find a big rubberband by it, then it was a slingshot that fell over.


22 posted on 01/30/2012 6:16:30 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: JRios1968

Yup! That’s the guy!!

Actually...it’s easy for him to believe in Aliens... because, he IS one!


23 posted on 01/30/2012 6:21:51 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

24 posted on 01/30/2012 6:24:00 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: SunkenCiv
It looks as though those wings are only one room wide.

Perhaps the builders were trying to maximize the villa's exposure to sunlight in those high latitudes. The eastern walls in both wings would be warmed by the morning sun while the western walls would get it in the afternoon.

It's a cool, damp climate, one in which the Romans might have craved sunlight, so unlike the Mediterranean where they would've sought shelter from it.

25 posted on 01/30/2012 6:41:35 AM PST by Oratam
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To: SunkenCiv

I was watching HGTV the other day so I know that these were kitchens added-on so that the homeowner could rent out part of the house to help pay his mortgage. Those $40,000 additions seem to increase the house value by $300,000. I’m adding four kitchens to my house.


26 posted on 01/30/2012 6:48:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: JRios1968
Now wtch for the guy with the wild hair on ‘Ancient Aliens’ to flesh out another bizzare scenario about what it is.

Hey hey hey, don't be dissing Giorgio now! He's a genius because he can extrapolate ANYTHING into a case for aliens. Nobody like him. LOL

I do like this show actually. I come to it from the point of view of my Christian faith. I think they are on to something, but it's bass ackwards. They totally discount the existence of spiritual beings...big mistake.

27 posted on 01/30/2012 7:00:20 AM PST by mancini
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To: SunkenCiv

I didn’t see any mention of where in Norfolk this is located. I suppose they are trying to keep the location secret until excavation is complete.


28 posted on 01/30/2012 8:10:15 AM PST by strongbow
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To: SunkenCiv

That middle picture...doesn’t that look like the footprint left by a Klingon Bird of Prey?


29 posted on 01/30/2012 8:18:33 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SunkenCiv

If it was temporary like they surmise, perhaps it was built to capture Boudicca and her army.

If it is near the coast it could have been a gathering place to kick off a campaign inland.

Norfolk has a lot of water, swampy land and farmland and I’m curious if this might be near Yarmouth.


30 posted on 01/30/2012 9:22:51 AM PST by Lady Jag (Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught)
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To: SunkenCiv

Probably some Roman figured out he could get a grant to build some half baked building he had drawn up. Rome was giving out grants for silly stuff all the time back then. Eventually they raised the debt ceiling one too many times and well, uh ..., you know the rest of the story.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 9:26:57 AM PST by Scythian
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To: SunkenCiv

The article indicates that the foundation was insubstantial and the roof was light, probably thatch. That would suggest the possibility of a temporary structure. The site is on a hill above the city. Perhaps to host a ceremony of some kind? The V shape almost suggests a theater.


32 posted on 01/30/2012 10:28:32 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv
It was a prototype, built by Guilliamo Winchesterus, famed Roman inventor of the repeater crossbow.

It resulted in a family tradition of bizarre residences for a long line of inventor-builder descendants, that culminated in the early 20th Century, in America.


33 posted on 01/30/2012 12:40:27 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wait a minute. Wasn’t there a discovery that was posted in the last year about an unusual layout of a Roman villa near Ostia (or somewhere on the coast south of Rome) that might have belonged to Marius?


34 posted on 01/30/2012 2:01:38 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv
they must have spotted klingons


35 posted on 01/30/2012 4:36:41 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Mr. K
Bread and Circuses (Star Trek: The Original Series)

36 posted on 01/30/2012 7:53:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: JRios1968

LOL!


37 posted on 01/30/2012 7:56:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Oratam

The Romans came up with the hypercaust system, and used it in particular in colder places (such as Britain), so if this lacks it, that might be even more unusual.


38 posted on 01/30/2012 8:00:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: wildbill

Dunno.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2460749/posts


39 posted on 01/30/2012 8:01:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: reed13k

Or a inn / hotel, the Roman Empire had tons of those. No big chains though.


40 posted on 01/30/2012 8:02:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Earthdweller; Adder; SueRae

I wonder if there are any traces of other nearby structures? In the 1990s (or thereabouts) a Roman-era British town (or village) the name of which has survived was finally found, a completely abandoned site other than having been farmed for 15 centuries or so since.


41 posted on 01/30/2012 8:07:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hypocaust.
42 posted on 01/31/2012 1:25:19 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Apollo5600; blueunicorn6

Actually you are both kinda right. It obviously is an updated version of the Stargate called the Starshot. The structure originally stood upright and had a large rubber band stretched between the uprights. To use the device, one sat in a leather cup at the center point of the rubber band and... Well, you get the picture.

The system was still in testing when a fatal design flaw was found and the project abandoned.


43 posted on 01/31/2012 1:57:22 AM PST by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: SunkenCiv

“...who say the building has no known parallels....”

No wonder I did so poorly in geometry. I would have sworn a bunch of those walls are parallel.


44 posted on 01/31/2012 2:15:05 AM PST by 21twelve
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Wine Lover's Guide To Ancient Britain
by Angela M.H. Schuster
Volume 53 Number 2, March/April 2000
At one Northamptonshire site, the team documented remains of nearly four miles of bedding trenches that they estimate could have supported some 4,000 vines, the fruits of which would have yielded more than 2,600 gallons of wine a year. According to Meadows and Brown, the grapes were grown in the Mediterranean Roman style, that is between parallel sets of poles, a manner that has been described in detail by classical authors such as Pliny the Elder and Columella. Most of the wines the Romans produced were probably fruity, sweet, and brownish in color. The grapes would have been harvested early, before they were fully ripe, around late September. After pressing, large amounts of honey would have been added to the wine for both sweetness and to raise the alcohol content to ten or 12 percent. The wine would then have been placed in amphoras or barrels to ferment for about six months, ready for enjoyment in late winter or early spring.

45 posted on 01/31/2012 4:17:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

:’) Thanks SV.


46 posted on 01/31/2012 4:18:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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