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The Forever Dog -- Dog breeds were created by human beings. The village dog created itself
National Geographic ^ | February 2012 | Evan Ratliff

Posted on 01/30/2012 7:20:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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The Forever Dog -- Dog breeds were created by human beings. The village dog created itself

1 posted on 01/30/2012 7:20:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam
[Photograph by Robert Clark] How to Build a Dog -- Scientists have found the secret recipe behind the spectacular variety of dog shapes and sizes, and it could help unravel the complexity of human genetic disease by Evan Ratliff

How to Build a Dog -- Scientists have found the secret recipe behind the spectacular variety of dog shapes and sizes, and it could help unravel the complexity of human genetic disease

2 posted on 01/30/2012 7:25:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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3 posted on 01/30/2012 7:26:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv
God created the Jack Russell then broke the mold.

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4 posted on 01/30/2012 7:27:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neat ~ South America was very hard hit by hanta virus all through the 1500s. The "village dogs" must have been devastated by the loss of the "village".

People living amidst social destruction probably turned to eating off the dogs first.

5 posted on 01/30/2012 7:27:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

Once they bred the corgi they stopped...having reached perfection.


6 posted on 01/30/2012 7:29:11 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: cripplecreek
God created the Jack Russell then broke the mold.

Or, the Jack Russell broke the mold by jumping on it!

7 posted on 01/30/2012 7:29:49 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: cripplecreek
God created the Jack Russell then broke the mold.

Or, the Jack Russell broke the mold by jumping on it!

8 posted on 01/30/2012 7:29:57 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Fascinating.

Ping


9 posted on 01/30/2012 7:33:42 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: 6SJ7
Banzai!!!

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10 posted on 01/30/2012 7:37:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SunkenCiv

These last few centuries/thousand years, man has produced through artificial selection breeds ranging from the Great Dane to the Chihuahua. The world is approximately 4.6 billion years old.
In other news, Bulldogs rule. Over to you Chet ...


11 posted on 01/30/2012 7:37:48 PM PST by tumblindice ("ghetto masses" Cloward-Piven)
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To: SunkenCiv
Stalking the Ancient Dog

"Dog genes are telling a radically different story from dog bones. An analysis in the June 13 Science concludes that dogs were domesticated much earlier than archaeologists maintain. Instead of a 10,000- to 20,000-year time frame, Robert K. Wayne of the University of California, Los Angeles and his colleagues now have evidence that dogs could have been domesticated 100,000 years ago -- if not earlier."

12 posted on 01/30/2012 7:40:28 PM PST by blam
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Canine trouble you to read this? ;')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


13 posted on 01/30/2012 7:41:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

14 posted on 01/30/2012 7:41:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Dixie Dingo
15 posted on 01/30/2012 7:42:09 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

We have an Australian Cattle dog. I would probably have looked for a Carolina dog had I known about them 12 years ago but our ACD is amazingly smart. One of the foundation breeds is dingo and another one is dalmation. They also have a now extinct scottish herding dog similar to a border collie. He is also part border collie. Once we convinced him that babies grow up to throw frisbies he quit wanting to eat them and became very gentle. He’s not one of those dogs however that I would ever let a baby pull up on. A bit jumpy but if he’s feeling anxious, he either goes into the laundry room or brings a toy to the alpha person in the room.


16 posted on 01/30/2012 8:02:30 PM PST by Mercat
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To: SunkenCiv

Village Dogs

17 posted on 01/30/2012 8:10:25 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...)
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To: blam

Dixie Dingo (Carolina Dog)

18 posted on 01/30/2012 8:14:36 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv

One of the cable TV networks did a little story on what would survive something worse than a nuclear holocaust (i.e., an EMP), and they concluded that that sheep dogs would do fine. They would pass along their herding and protection duties to the next generation, and next, and next beyond that...while the rest of the world would collapse around them.


19 posted on 01/30/2012 8:14:47 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Newt will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I do not know why they need all these other breeds. Golden Retrievers rule!


20 posted on 01/30/2012 8:18:08 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

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21 posted on 01/30/2012 8:21:44 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for the pictures of the Carolina Dogs, I had read about them in the past and I think they are very interesting. I tend toward mixed breeds just because I think they tend to be a more natural dog. I had asked myself the same question as is posed in the article what happened to the native dogs which lead me to the Carolina Dogs, I would love to own one but I think I may be on my last two dogs because I would hate to leave a good dog without an owner.


22 posted on 01/30/2012 8:24:56 PM PST by dog breath
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To: SunkenCiv

23 posted on 01/30/2012 8:28:41 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SunkenCiv
But previous population surveys in the Americas turned up only dogs with European heritage.

I thought chihuahuas were American. They named a whole state after them in Mexico.

24 posted on 01/30/2012 8:29:33 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: tumblindice

I don’t think there’s any chance we’re 4.6 billion years old, there is zero scientific evidence to support that.

Also, once you go hound you don’t go back (coonhound for example). hehe


25 posted on 01/30/2012 8:31:38 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL! I almost spit my coke all over the computer!


26 posted on 01/30/2012 8:33:02 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

“there is zero scientific evidence”

To the contrary, there are reams of scientific evidence supporting that date.

My favorite coon hound is the Walker treeing coon hound.
Beautiful animal and it will actually go up the tree.

So this coon hunter invites his city friend to go hunting. The friend hints that he has something special to show him.
They get the dogs ready, and the city man pulls a spider monkey out of the cab. The monkey has a little silver pistol in his hand.
The dogs tree a coon. The city man holds his friend back, and looses the monkey. The monkey scampers up the tree and `Bang’, a raccoon falls to the ground.

The coon man is flabbergasted. He demands to see it again. The dogs are agitated, but they tree another. Again, up the tree. But this time there’s a long silence.
The monkey slowly climbed down from the tree; the dogs seem to grin, as dogs do.
The monkey walked over to the lead dogs and shot them in the head, in fact, empties the magazine.

The coon man is furious. “What in the *#! does that little *+$! think he’s doing?!”
And the monkey man says, “I forgot to warn you. He can’t stand a liar.”


27 posted on 01/30/2012 8:59:02 PM PST by tumblindice ("ghetto masses" Cloward-Piven)
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To: ElkGroveDan

errrrrrrr=ooof=ooof.....squat....


28 posted on 01/30/2012 9:30:46 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: cripplecreek

We’re a pit bull family, and I wonder if any other breed could put up with the rough play of my three boys. It’s also nice that we have no need to lock the front door.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 9:31:57 PM PST by SquarePants
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To: Joe 6-pack

That was sad!...but tail wagging ending!


30 posted on 01/30/2012 9:50:34 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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I have a six month old Yorkie, name is Prissy, who wears a pink bow on top of her head. Put her in the car to go to drug store pick-up window with me. Lady in the window said I could have my medicine when I gave her my puppy. Everyone who sees her wants her. She is my constant companion (and she hates liberals).

She is a great guard dog except for one thing. She barks to tell me someone is at the door - but it it were a burglar, when he got in, she would kiss him.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 10:09:29 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Dog breeds were created by human beings”

Really...really doubtful, that is.


32 posted on 01/30/2012 10:18:53 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Of dogs I know this- German Shepherds are very smart and make wonderful, family pets, unless you get one from all German bloodlines, which will lead to the discovery they were bred for East German prison camp security. Anyone needing such please email me ;) “Bloody stump” is part of our family lexicon.


33 posted on 01/30/2012 11:39:34 PM PST by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: blam

Dogs probably domesticated humans. :’)


34 posted on 01/31/2012 4:20:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: cripplecreek
Photobucket Photobucket Too much eggnog.
35 posted on 01/31/2012 4:45:53 AM PST by Dusty Road
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Bowser has two speeds.

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36 posted on 01/31/2012 4:51:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bulwyf

Yeah, I love hounds, too.
I’ve had Boxers (short life expectancy), Airedales (love ‘em), Afghans (pretty dumb), an Australian Sheep Dog (smart, but bit my kid - not smart), and numerous mutts (love them, too).
But my favorite canine is the Rhodesian Ridgeback. I’ve had two. Lots to handle, but so well worth it.


37 posted on 01/31/2012 6:20:28 AM PST by BIV (typical white person)
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To: pops88

>German Shepherds are very smart and make wonderful, family pets, unless you get one from all German bloodlines, which will lead to the discovery they were bred for East German prison camp security.<

Not all German line GSD’s were bred for East German prison camp security.

Anyway, the Czech dogs have it all over DDR line dogs as far as that type working ability.


38 posted on 01/31/2012 6:36:02 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: pops88

Uh, not all German Shepherds were in East Germany. They were already the most popular dog in the world, with many branches in Europe alone, including West.


39 posted on 01/31/2012 6:48:26 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Bulwyf; tumblindice

I don’t think there’s any chance we’re 4.6 billion years old, there is zero scientific evidence to support that.

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The crevo wars on a dog thread? Love it.

Don’t think tumblindice suggested that we humans are 4.6 billion years old, but that the earth is 4.6 billion years old.

As long as the dog is not yappy and nasty, I love them all, with a special fondness for all things retriever, goldens, labrador, chesapeake bay - whatever.

Loved my beagle as well. Howlin’ at the moon.


40 posted on 01/31/2012 8:30:13 AM PST by dmz
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Uh, not all German Shepherds were in East Germany. They were already the most popular dog in the world, with many branches in Europe alone, including West.
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My comment was tongue-in-cheek and I’m surprised was taken so literally. I’m not actually that ignorant, although I can see how that assumption could be made on FR.


41 posted on 01/31/2012 8:35:34 AM PST by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: pops88

Sorry. Didn’t quite get it!


42 posted on 01/31/2012 9:32:45 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hi CC. My two year old Bostie is on a food regimen to keep his weight around l5 pounds. He gets l/4 cup of Taste of the Wild kibble with a tablespoon of Bue dog meat around 8AM, and 1/4 in 4 cup of Taste of the Wild kibble 3with his vitamihs at 3PM. He looks trim, and ready to be shown! Of couarse he gets a Milk Bone now and then during the day, and always plenty offresh water.

Your JRs are looking so cute, but one of athem is getting a bit on the pudgy side, and you may want to ask your vet how much to feed him/her to keep trim. If I was younger, I would get another Boston Terrier to keep Oliver company. I am definitely top dog to him, and he is an amazing dog, bringing hours of joy to me.


43 posted on 01/31/2012 10:32:59 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: cripplecreek

Or is one of your dogs a Corgie? I think one of them is indeed, a Corgie,l so it may not be pudgie at all! Sorry.


44 posted on 01/31/2012 10:34:55 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: DennisR
There are records. Most dog breeds are recent.

The Bull-Mastiff, as just one example of hundreds, was developed in England to be a smaller more active Mastiff for use as a night guard for livestock against human poachers - who they would tackle and hold by the throat. The final mix was, IIRC, 3/4 Mastiff and 1/4 archaic Bull-dog.

There is no evidence that dog breeds existed in the wild until domesticated by humans. There were no wild bands of Dachshunds digging up varmints - there were wolves and coyotes and the like.

All genetic and historic evidence suggests that humans domesticated wolves and developed dog breeds from them.

45 posted on 01/31/2012 10:44:48 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; blam
I had a Carolina Dingo that I found on the Escatawpa River in Mississippi. Named him Blue because of his eyes. Great dog. Loved him.

Jackson Co. Sheriff knocked on my door one Saturday morning and asked me if I had a white German Shephard. I said no but that I had a white Dingo. He said that Blue was killing cats in the neighborhood. I said, "Not my dog." and whistled for him. Blue came running out from under the house and his upper lip was ripped wide open.

All I could think was ut-oh. The officer said that he was sorry but that he had to take the dog, He also said for me to not come to the pound to bail him out because he would not be allowed back in this neighborhood.

I asked him if he had the internet back at the pound and he said they did. I plead with him to look up Carolina Dingo and check out what he had just 'arrested'. He promised he would and that if it was what I said it was he would do everything in his power to get him a home. I sure hope that Blue survived.

46 posted on 01/31/2012 11:12:06 AM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL © - tomkat)
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To: houeto

I probably wouldn’t have given my dog to the sheriff.


47 posted on 01/31/2012 11:15:41 AM PST by blam
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To: Paperdoll

Neener is a “CoJack” corgi JRT mix.

Her name was “Queenie” when I got her but I wasn’t having any of that.


48 posted on 01/31/2012 11:28:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Beautiful little Jack Russells there.


49 posted on 01/31/2012 1:57:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: pops88

“Of dogs I know this- German Shepherds are very smart and make wonderful, family pets, unless you get one from all German bloodlines, which will lead to the discovery they were bred for East German prison camp security. Anyone needing such please email me ;) “Bloody stump” is part of our family lexicon.”

LOL! Shepherds are my favorite breed. My sister-in-law and her husband owned a GS with all German bloodlines, trained in the Schutzhund method ( I think that’s spelled right). If he didn’t know you, you did NOT want to approach him or the house without one of his people there to control him. I was there one day when a repairman visited, and the dog sat on my feet, facing the guy and growling until he left. But with family he was a big love bucket. I adored that dog.


50 posted on 01/31/2012 2:03:33 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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