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Nikon P510 Offers Highest Zoom Ratio Ever Seen in a Compact Camera
PETAPIXEL ^ | Feb 03, 2012 | swampsniper

Posted on 02/01/2012 9:39:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

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This will be interesting. It will have the limits imposed by small sensor size but if Nikon can get halfway decent pics out of it there will be a place for it. I searched, can't find any comprehensive reviews yet.
1 posted on 02/01/2012 9:39:20 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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2 posted on 02/01/2012 9:41:13 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Even if that 42x can turn out 20x of awesomeness, it’ll still be worth the buy.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 9:44:25 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

etc.

Looks like a lens out of a GlobalHawk. lol

4 posted on 02/01/2012 9:45:05 PM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This will be great if the photos are good. I’d love to have one for our spring trip.


5 posted on 02/01/2012 9:47:05 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Jonty30

Oh, another toy I have to have. One more Nikon for my collection.


6 posted on 02/01/2012 9:49:53 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Before I left for Canada last Christmas, bought this Olympus that Best Buy was selling where they threw in the tripod, 4 Gb sd card and camera bag for 99. It’s becoming custom nowadays to have the 720P to 1080P Hd recording feature but the 42x zoom beats out the 5x zoom. Ridiculous zoom ratio that 42..


7 posted on 02/01/2012 9:49:58 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: Theoria
Knife to a gunfight


8 posted on 02/01/2012 9:50:31 PM PST by sagar
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It will have the limits imposed by small sensor size

Isn't the sensor size crucial for great pics, especially with a high amount of pixels?

9 posted on 02/01/2012 9:51:29 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Mit out a tripod, you ain’t going nowhere, boy!


10 posted on 02/01/2012 9:51:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: razorback-bert

I’m not a big picture taker myself.

I like the idea of taking awesome pictures, I’m just not willing to keep a camera on hand, nor do I have the patience to look for hours for that one perfect picture.


11 posted on 02/01/2012 9:53:25 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: abigailsmybaby

If you can put filters and a lens hood on it without a lot of extra hardware it may do well. A cpl filter and a lens hood are vital for field work.


12 posted on 02/01/2012 9:54:01 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Bellflower

A smaller sensor will be limited. Really you get a different type of image but it can be pretty good. You can’t mess around with DOF effects and there will be more noise.


13 posted on 02/01/2012 9:57:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Revolting cat!

I shoot 450mm equivalent handheld all the time.


14 posted on 02/01/2012 10:02:09 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks for posting. Looking to upgrade from my Lumix. This might be the one I’m looking for.


15 posted on 02/01/2012 10:07:05 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Still.

The cheap digital cameras of today still outperform professional digital cameras from just a few years back.


16 posted on 02/01/2012 10:07:36 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
but if Nikon can get halfway decent pics out of it there will be a place for it.

With that kind of zoom, it better have a superduper optical image stabilizer...

17 posted on 02/01/2012 10:08:21 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Actually, Nikon has this info up.
18 posted on 02/01/2012 10:14:53 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Quite an improvement over the Olympus D-200L, the first digital camera I bought in 1996 : 0.3 megapixels, optical viewfinder only, 2 MB internal storage and cost about $500 as I recall.

Hard to imagine that was only 16 years ago.

19 posted on 02/01/2012 10:15:03 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

16MP and 42X zoom could be the finest camera for the price in history. Wow.


20 posted on 02/01/2012 10:16:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: max americana

One big problem with 42x is the stabilization.

If you really tried to take a picture, without a tripod, every picture would look like you’re in the middle of richter 9.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 10:16:43 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Definitely not a pocket camera, but that's a hella-zoom feature (and it's optical, not digital).
22 posted on 02/01/2012 10:21:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I would appreciate an unbiased opinion from someone who knows more than I do about older 35mm film type SLRs. I have a couple, and they both cost four or five hundred way back. Are they boat anchors now because of digital technology, or are the lenses still worth anything?


23 posted on 02/01/2012 10:23:08 PM PST by matthew fuller (My replacement for Drudge-http://www.webcommentary.com/links.php)
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To: Jonty30

In some conditions. A camera like this Nikon needs a lot of light, they can be hard and slow to focus in dim light. They are usually slower to focus in all conditions. A DSLR with a fast lens is still the winner. Go try to take some shots of flying birds close up, a good DSLR will grsb focus when a lesser camera won’t.


24 posted on 02/01/2012 10:29:40 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: matthew fuller

It depends on what they are and condition but most aren’t worth much now.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 10:37:34 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’m a novice at photography. In fact, I’m pretty lousy at it. We have a bunch of family functions going on this spring and it would be great to have a camera like this....but only if it doesn’t take a phd to operate it.


26 posted on 02/01/2012 10:38:26 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Jonty30

With a stabilizer system it isn’t much of a problem now.


27 posted on 02/01/2012 10:39:14 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks. One is a Minolta 5000i (autofocus) with one extra lens and the other is a canon EOS rebel XS. I was wondering if the lenses were still usable?


28 posted on 02/01/2012 10:50:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (My replacement for Drudge-http://www.webcommentary.com/links.php)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Two things can make these features work. Image Stabilization and the ability to use very high ISO equivalents due to improvements in the sensors.

My D7000 does amazing things handheld.

I used to never shoot without a tripod if I was doing anything serious, now I rarely use one.

I wonder how fast the lens is. Not too, I’d guess....


29 posted on 02/01/2012 10:51:31 PM PST by moonhawk (Romney tucks his tail and licks the hand that beats him. Newt rips it off at the shoulder.)
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To: abigailsmybaby
What you need to do is get over that "I can't do that" mindset, yeah, it shows, LOL.

If you can sit down for a few hours and learn some basic principles things start to become really simple.

As for family functions, superzooms are not really indoor cameras, they need more light to focus and you might not always like the results of using flash.

30 posted on 02/01/2012 10:52:09 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: matthew fuller

If the lenses have been stored properly and aren’t full of fungus or have the aperture blades frozen up they are worth a lot more than the camera bodies. The Minolta lenses will fit most Sony DSLRS and the EOS lenses also work on some newer cameras.


31 posted on 02/01/2012 10:57:27 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: moonhawk
When you don't have much time on target a DSLR is the only way to go.

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32 posted on 02/01/2012 11:00:15 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sagar

Look at the arms on that guy.

I had no idea that being able to bench 200 was a requirement for a professional photographer.

On another note,unless the lens described above is capable of bending the laws of physics as well as bending light (a lot), how many photons are actually going to hit the sensor at that f ratio. The subject might have to stand still for a minute or two. That’s why those sports photographers have those light cannons.


33 posted on 02/01/2012 11:01:15 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: razorback-bert
Oh, another toy I have to have. One more Nikon for my collection.

Ditto!
34 posted on 02/01/2012 11:03:30 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Around 1999-2000 money had been tight for a while but as things got back to normal I wanted to get a gift for Mrs p6. She had mentioned a camera because her Fuji was getting a little long in the tooth and my Canon AEs were too much for her.

Going through a Comp USA I spotted a package with an IXLA digital camera, webpage and photo editing software on sale for maybe 60-70 bucks. It was .3 megapixel, plastic lens no doubt and a pretty basic point and shoot camera.

But I got it and she loved it! We had more fun with that little thing! She began taking more pics because there was no film expense and the pics were actually pretty good. On the web they were outstanding. They still look fine.

A couple of years later we got a small Fuji digital with maybe 1-2 megapixels. It was nice because it was smaller but the IXLA was still just as good.

A few more years passed and I got a Kodak 650 6MP digital for our youngest son. That is now our fall back camera. It has a decent zoom, is very easy to use and has never let us down.

Since then a few cheap digitals have come and are mostly relegated "keep in the car" cameras.

Recently Mrs p6 bought a camera on QVC. It's a Pentax but I don't recall the model. Fits in her purse and takes nice shots but the learning curve is pretty steep at least for us.

Meanwhile the Canon AE film cameras with bags of lenses, tripods and other stuff are my favs but anymore even the cameras in our phones and tablets take better pics. Plus it's getting hard to get film unless you order it on line.

When I get home I think I'll dig around and see if I can find the old IXLA. It would be a hoot if it still worked!

35 posted on 02/01/2012 11:05:46 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I had an idea that that might be the way it is, thanks.


36 posted on 02/01/2012 11:07:11 PM PST by matthew fuller (My replacement for Drudge-http://www.webcommentary.com/links.php)
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To: matthew fuller

http://www.keh.com/camera/format-35mm?s=1&bc=39


37 posted on 02/01/2012 11:11:40 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: prisoner6

It is nice to have a “junky” camera...it defeats the purpose of having only a “good” camera if it’s too expensive to take it anywhere or to use it anywhere where it might get dirty.

It’s also good if you work on cars and you want to document what you took off so that you can put it back!


38 posted on 02/01/2012 11:13:25 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
When you don't have much time on target a DSLR is the only way to go.

DSLR, eh?

What camera model did you take those photos with?

39 posted on 02/01/2012 11:15:43 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: sargon

Sony A-200 with a Minolta 35-70 f4 lens. The lens was a Minolta kit lens for the Maxxum cameras, they are common but a lot of bang for the buck.


40 posted on 02/01/2012 11:20:20 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Your thread got me to wondering what the equivalent magnifying power of my telephoto lens and camera combination was and how cropping an image increases magnification.

Here, for example, is a photo of some coots taken with a Canon EOS 7d and a 100-400mm lens set at 400mm. The Canon EOS 7d multiplies the focal length by 1.6, so the effective focal length of this photo is 640mm. I've read that you can divide the focal length by 50mm to tell how magnified the image is compared to a picture taken with a 50mm lens. By doing that I get a magnification of 12.8 compared to a 50mm lens of a full frame camera that doesn't multiply the focal length. A 1000mm lens like that Nikon camera you posted about would give a magnification of 20 compared to a 50mm lens.

Here's the photo:

I noticed that the coot in the middle was more or less in focus, so I cropped the image such that it was about 1/9th of the area of the original 640mm picture. Here is the resulting image blown up to the same size as the picture above:

If my calculatons are correct (always questionable), the magnification on this cropped image is 9 times 12.8, or 115 times that that a 50mm lens would give. Keep in mind I'm dealing with area of the image here, not its height or width, which would both be multiplied by a lower adjustment figure than I used in the area calculations above.

41 posted on 02/01/2012 11:31:04 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: The Antiyuppie

A little trick Mr. Bunk taught me: get a pile of those plastic stackable food tubs and as you take stuff apart, put everything in the tubs, one by one, in layers. No need to use caps. Pretty soon you’ll have a little tower of nuts, bolts, washers, etc, layer by layer in the stacked tubs. Then, when you go to put stuff back together you just work your way down the tower. It really works... No more mystery bits.


42 posted on 02/01/2012 11:31:27 PM PST by golux
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To: rustbucket

The figures released with point and shoots usually don’t correlate with DSLR ratings, there is some hype involved. To find out how this Nikon really rates you’d have to compare it side by side with a known lens and see which one gets “closer”.


43 posted on 02/01/2012 11:37:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: The Antiyuppie
DITTOS to that. I got some digital camera/camcorder at Rite Aid last year. It's kind of like a flip camera but not as good. IIRC I paid 10-15 bucks or LESS. I used it to see where the power steering fluid was leaking from the steering gear on my Durango. Also checked out stuff on other cars where I couldn't see otherwise.

It's been invaluable for stuff like that and documenting where things go!

Yup it gets dirty and beat up but it still works!

44 posted on 02/01/2012 11:44:01 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Jonty30
If you really tried to take a picture, without a tripod, every picture would look like you’re in the middle of richter 9.

Normally. NIKON has handled it pretty well with certain lenses I have used. From their site:

Lens-shift vibration reduction (VR) function that effectively reduces the effects of camera shake

Equipped with a lens-shift vibration reduction (VR) function that offers camera shake compensation equivalent to a four-step increase in shutter speed, the cameras support capture of sharper images with less blur, even with hand-held shooting. This optical vibration reduction is effective not only with still-image shooting, but also with recording of full-HD movies.


I hope there are reviews, but I might just add this to my other cameras. I have a trip planned to South America and Antarctica in January of 2013.
45 posted on 02/01/2012 11:51:34 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Doesn’t look like it’d fit in my pocket. Is it still considered Compact?


46 posted on 02/01/2012 11:55:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Do you give photography classes? I have a really nice Nikon, a gift from a few years back, and I still have yet to learn all its functions. IF I knew how to post some of my pictures I would but I have not master that either.


47 posted on 02/02/2012 12:01:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

We’ll be outside....the main things are a high school graduation and party, and softball games. A super zoom like that would allow me some really good shots. I’ll have to do some practicing first as you say or it won’t matter what camera I use. :)


48 posted on 02/02/2012 12:11:09 AM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I just happen to be in the market for a new camera. Have been loking at the Canon G12, but this looks interesting.


49 posted on 02/02/2012 1:13:23 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Vendome

It’s what they call a bridge camera, not a compact.


50 posted on 02/02/2012 1:32:25 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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