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Mona Lisa’s ‘twin sister’ discovered in Spain’s Prado art museum
TorontoStar.com ^ | Feb 01 2012 | Sinikka Tarvainen

Posted on 02/02/2012 3:36:53 AM PST by Daffynition

MADRID—Spain’s Prado art museum said Wednesday it had discovered an unusual copy of Leonardo da Vinci’s “La Gioconda,” painted by one of the master’s pupils at the same time that the original was being completed.

The copy had been on display at the Madrid art museum for years without experts being aware of its importance.

A routine restoration led experts to discover that the dark background behind the female figure popularly known as Mona Lisa had been added afterward and that it covered an Italian landscape similar to that in da Vinci’s original.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Business/Economy; History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; monalisa
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A file photo of Leonardo da Vinci's original "Mona Lisa" (L) which hangs in the Louvre in Paris, and a recently discovered and restored copy of the "Mona Lisa" painting as it was displayed at Madrid's El Prado Museum is seen in this combination photo. The recently restored copy was completed by one of Da Vinci's apprentices most likely at the same time as the master himself painted the original.

1 posted on 02/02/2012 3:36:59 AM PST by Daffynition
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2 posted on 02/02/2012 3:39:29 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

Guilty.


3 posted on 02/02/2012 3:42:54 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Can you imagine if the painting had fallen in to the hands of the Moors?


4 posted on 02/02/2012 3:47:29 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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5 posted on 02/02/2012 3:56:20 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Daffynition

Cripes! That matches the da Vinci I found in my attic last week!


6 posted on 02/02/2012 4:04:03 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Daffynition

I actually like the one with the red sleeves better I think it is more vivid


7 posted on 02/02/2012 4:10:36 AM PST by reed13k (Knight Rampant Bibliophile, Protector of Knowledge, Purveyor of Inquiry, Defender of Aged Wisdom, an)
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To: Daffynition
Dash 2 is better looking - but not by much..

Note the difference in height of the top of her head.

8 posted on 02/02/2012 4:32:18 AM PST by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

The story was that the a male sat for the DaVinci portrait...it was the artist’s boyfriend.

The original Mona Lisa was a punk and the copy was probably a female sitter, so that’s why they look different.

Think so?


9 posted on 02/02/2012 4:40:20 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Daffynition

Myrna Lisa?


10 posted on 02/02/2012 4:51:45 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SMARTY
I've heard that theory before and I certainly can't tell...The major difference between the paintings is the height of the top of the head on Number 2 and a subtle improvement around the eyes, making the subject more feminine.

Nonetheless, if that is an example of what passed for pretty back then, it's amazing that they reproduced at all.

11 posted on 02/02/2012 4:55:32 AM PST by Chainmail
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To: SMARTY

WOW ,big difference to my eye. #2 definitely looks more female.


12 posted on 02/02/2012 4:57:53 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Chainmail

The idea of feminine beauty has certainly evolved through time and in different cultures.

It seems like it’s at a new low right now. A woman is only appealing if she gets herself up like a hooker?

Sad.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 4:58:57 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Daffynition
painted by one of the master’s pupils at the same time that the original was being completed.

I get this vision of Leonardo as Bob Ross at the head of his painting class with a dozen Mona Lisas being painted. "Now paint some happy trees in the background..."

14 posted on 02/02/2012 5:16:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: Chainmail
"...it's amazing that they reproduced at all."

They still had wine.

15 posted on 02/02/2012 5:19:08 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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16 posted on 02/02/2012 5:23:59 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

The “real thing” is alive. It’s looking at you. It has a soul.

The copy... is a painting.


17 posted on 02/02/2012 5:26:13 AM PST by Pravious
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To: reed13k

18 posted on 02/02/2012 5:26:13 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: SMARTY
Who can say what inspired that enigmatic smile...


19 posted on 02/02/2012 5:31:22 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: KarlInOhio
She was the inspiration for many at the OWS fiascos.


20 posted on 02/02/2012 5:34:10 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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21 posted on 02/02/2012 5:42:37 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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22 posted on 02/02/2012 5:44:45 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
No Etch-a-Sketch. :)


23 posted on 02/02/2012 5:48:15 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Pravious
Yes, it's remarkable, the way the Mona Lisa's eyes seem to follow you around the room. :)


24 posted on 02/02/2012 6:10:13 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: SMARTY
"A woman is only appealing if she gets herself up like a hooker?",

In this case, all the makeup in the world wouldn't help. The ancient lady in question is thick, heavy-boned with small, close-set eyes, a small mouth and somewhat over graced with nose.

"Beauty" as a somewhat subjective value over time, is usually linked to symmetry and proportions and the Mona Lisa is at the far end of that spectrum.

Any number of ancient sculptors had that idea down fairly well, for example, the Venus de Milo..

25 posted on 02/02/2012 6:13:24 AM PST by Chainmail
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To: fieldmarshaldj
That's the copy from the Hermitage, no? :)


26 posted on 02/02/2012 6:14:11 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Chainmail
If Raphael received the commission...


27 posted on 02/02/2012 6:16:34 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

Maybe I coulda leasa that painting for a lot of mona.


28 posted on 02/02/2012 6:44:24 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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29 posted on 02/02/2012 6:46:23 AM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: KarlInOhio

“Now take your stiff fan-brush, and just touch it in your titanium white......like this........and now, just.....touch it on the tree.......and make a nice..........little......highlight.............there!”


30 posted on 02/02/2012 6:52:25 AM PST by Erasmus (A man, a plan, a canal: Suez)
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To: Daffynition

The man with two heads. Little, and littler.


31 posted on 02/02/2012 6:53:31 AM PST by Erasmus (A man, a plan, a canal: Suez)
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To: Chainmail

I’m not exactly sure what you people are looking for. This is a PORTRAIT, not an abstract painting of a Goddess. It’s SUPPOSED to look like the person who’s being painted, right? Okay. This 500 year old woman wasn’t as “sexy” as, oh, I dunno, one of our emaciated-looking models... well, so what?


32 posted on 02/02/2012 6:54:37 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Daffynition
I have seen the first one in person, WOW what a disappointment! Of these 2 I like the 2nd one better.
33 posted on 02/02/2012 7:04:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Pravious
You are correct: the Mona Lisa is an excellent portrait that is probably a very good likeness of an unfortunate-looking woman.

I can see her as a Teamster, a Soviet shotput thrower perhaps but never as Mrs. Chainail, even with the assistance of wine, as one poster suggested.

34 posted on 02/02/2012 7:05:30 AM PST by Chainmail
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To: Daffynition

Dunno, but I hear James Cameron has this one hanging in his den.

35 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:01 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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36 posted on 02/02/2012 7:27:25 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: Daffynition; Lazamataz
Doll her up a bit, and Laz would frame it.


37 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:46 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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Here's my answer.... this song goes out to YOU, Mona Lisa, we all love you down at WLAZ....."When A Man Loves A Woman"..... the time is 10:30, and 57 degrees and partly cloudly at Hartfield airport.....All Hits, All The Time at WLAZ.....
38 posted on 02/02/2012 7:45:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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39 posted on 02/02/2012 8:51:48 AM PST by mikrofon (OhNo Lisa)
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To: Ditter

40 posted on 02/02/2012 10:07:30 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
And G. Soros in his den>>>>


41 posted on 02/02/2012 10:13:04 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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42 posted on 02/02/2012 10:18:07 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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43 posted on 02/02/2012 10:20:24 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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44 posted on 02/02/2012 10:22:50 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: count-your-change
A man mona, pasta fazool.


45 posted on 02/02/2012 10:25:39 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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46 posted on 02/02/2012 10:27:13 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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47 posted on 02/02/2012 10:28:37 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

I can see the little numbered sections showing through.


48 posted on 02/02/2012 11:03:01 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Daffynition

LOL! I have been in many portrait classes, drawing, pastel and painting, everyone is looking at the same model and that is how different the paintings turn out. Even the very experienced artists will turn out different looking renditions of the same person.


49 posted on 02/02/2012 11:18:23 AM PST by Ditter
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50 posted on 02/02/2012 11:19:17 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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