Skip to comments.UK elderly are “wasting too many bedrooms” (CIVIL WAR if they try this in US.
Posted on 02/05/2012 9:45:12 AM PST by DCBryan1
London, England-In yet another outrageous piece of social engineering from our coalition government, pensioners will be encouraged to downsize to smaller properties allowing local councils to rent their homes out as council houses and manage the tenancy.
Local authorities will help older people move from their homes into more suitable accommodation. Grant Schapps, the Housing Minister, who is a conservative member of parliament claims the scheme will solve a so-called housing crisis as well as creating a system that will permit access to various sources of wealth that are currently not being used to pay for care.
Read that as the elderly will have to raid their pension pots and hand over the equity in their homes - which they have spent a lifetime paying for in order to put themselves into a care system which is notoriously unfit for purpose.
Despite having paid taxes all their lives, pensioners will be forced to run down their wealth while those that have squandered their money or lived off the state will get free care. The idea is to create more stocks of affordable housing for younger families. This is a euphemism for subsidized houses for families that have deadbeat dads, single mothers with a battery of children from different fathers and other assorted welfare dependent cases that need help.
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
Repeat after me: Brotherhood! Equality! Bread! <./obamaism>
BLOAT!...and then double check your "list" for the day the balloon goes up!
Have the queen go first.
"There is living space for 13 families in this one house."
It was mandated that you had to feed and billet the King's own in your houses at your expense.
It was one of the many causes of the Declaration of Independence and subsequent first American Civil War, called the Revolutionary War.
It also sparked the 3rd Amendment to the Constitution, RIGHT BEHIND THE 2nd AMENDMENT
Perhaps it should not come to pass in Britain in 2012. Oh that is right! They were all disarmed some time ago! Tell me again why the government should restrict/prohibit any type of firearm ownership?
Consider this a lesson learned.
Hence why I will never be turning in my arms. Ever. To anyone. Better Dead than Red.
Oh....and FU Romneybots in case you are reading.
I can totally see the Bamster pulling this.
“Despite having paid taxes all their lives, pensioners will be forced to run down their wealth while those that have squandered their money or lived off the state will get free care.”
In other words, they’re going to introduce something like Medicaid.
EXCELLENT POST COMRADE!
“local councils”...Gee is this anything like the “Rural Councils” established under the radar by BHO? You’d better believe the stage is being set in plain view.
You can read “local councils” as “municipal governments,” more or less. Perhaps a British-based freeper can chime in.
That is very likely to happen to all the foreclosed properties. HUD will confiscate them and rent them to ‘poor’ single mothers.
The elderly in ‘underwater’ homes will be forced into 1 BR HUD apartments.
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment Three of the U.S. Constitution.
Don't get your hopes up, Obama HATES the Constitution!:
Like I said, Buy Lots of Ammo Today (BLOAT), and make a "list" of the enemies of the Constitution and America.
What an inhumane World we’ve become. I guess the novelists who wrote about a bleak future were right.
And thank you for the picture of a great actor.
Council housing is call Public Housing in US. Remember Cabrini Green and other failed PH projects in US. Why don’t they help the elderly get suitable renters, retain their own homes, make a little money, and have someone in house in case of emergencies. Or leave them alone to get their own renters if they need money.
The British Empire was a far more formidable opponent than Obama
And Romney. I’m so sick of this shit.
Yes. Buckingham Palace subdivided with drywall would make such peachy Single Room Occupancy units.
Local councils are borough or county councils. Pretty much your equivalent of town councils, but spreading into the countryside and with a limited ability to tax to provide services using the council tax - our equivalent of property taxes.
Oddly enough, this whole idea started in my own borough. My neighbor across the road got what she thought a good deal on her home from the council - free maintenence, free rent and a lump sum in return for the deeds. Now they are trying to move her out to sheltered accomodation to clear the house for some lowlife scum.
Cheap rental Council Housing (subsidized by local County governments) were small ‘town house’ communities built after WWII for displaced families after bomb damage mostly in cities and towns - close to jobs and transportation.
Just a few years ago - those apartments were offered for sale to long-term residents who had paid nominal rent for 25-30+ years. They were snapped up at reasonable prices. Have a nephew who purchased a home for his father and moved in after his dad died. Fixed and modernized.
It appears that some elderly residents may be still renting 3-4 BR apartments while younger families are on waiting lists.
Housing value depreciation is driving this re-assessment and people are at the mercy of the ‘Council’ locals.
Yeah, I noticed that. The solution may be loosening restrictions so that the elderly can rent out rooms in their house. Or encourage the younger relatives of these elderly to move in, regardless of crowding level.
But no, the solution is not to find a way to consolidate generations into one household but to have the STATE take the house and gain one more carrot to offer to the dependent masses.
Do they no longer have lampposts in England? Is there a shortage of rope? WHY IS THIS SORT OF THING TOLERATED?
“The British Empire was a far more formidable opponent...”
Maybe. I sometimes think that one of the biggest miscalculations made regarding the War Between the States was that people on both sides forgot they weren’t going up against the British, Mexicans, Indians or Moroccan Pirates. They were going up against people like themselves, people who whipped those others.
local councils... Gee is this anything like the Rural Councils established under the radar by BH0? Youd better believe the stage is being set in plain view.
. . . . # 8 and # 4.
Watch out ,you might get what you're after
Cool babies, strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house
Hold tight, wait till the party's over
Hold tight, We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
(Talking Heads - Burning Down the House)
Someone should photoshop tracer fire coming from the windows ;)
I’d have a bit more sympathy for elderly Brits if they hadn’t pretty much done this to themselves over the last sixty years. It’s just one of the neat things that happens once you ‘run out of other people’s money’.
My very first thought exactly.
"Rural communities are vital to the American economy - our small business owners create jobs that support families, our farmers and ranchers grow food that feeds the world and our work ethic is second to none. Investing in rural jobs will yield big returns for the entire American economy and it's good to see Washington finally taking notice," Baucus said. "I'll continue fighting to make sure Montana's unique needs are heard."
Max Baucus has been urging the White House Rural Council to visit his home state since its formation earlier this year. "Montana jobs rely on thriving rural communities. I'm glad to see Washington is finally taking notice of the vital role our rural communities play in our economy. But you can't truly understand the challenges faced in in rural America from desk in Washington. So I'm pushing the White House to bring the new Rural Council to Montana so it can see firsthand the unique challenges and opportunities facing folks from Sidney to St. Regis and everywhere in between and get to work for them," said Baucus in a June 9 press release. "
If you keep electing 'rats, you get what you deserve.
Took their guns long ago, and now just making room for the mooslimes.
No visible means of support
And you have not seen nothing yet
Fighting fire with fire....
LOL! That’s the first thing that came to my mind as well! Yuri Zhivago comes home and gets rebuked by the authorities for having so much house...which now belongs to “the people” and they are all over the place.
Pinging the Agenda 21 folks!
If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:
The minute they take our guns its over.
It’s about power and the socialist way. I hope that when they beg to be rescued, as we did for them in the 40’s, we say: “goog luck with that.”
“The minute they take our guns its over.”
The second anyone tries they are over.
“Don’t say that it can’t happen here”.
I agree with you and thank you for posting this thread, DCBryan. I have actually heard this sentiment at a Home Owner Association meeting from (obviously) Liberal lips. They felt it was “unfair” and “greedy” for people whose children had grown to stay in a four bedroom home. “The home should be sold to a family” and the retired residents should “go to Florida” or “nursing homes”. Needless to say, my jaw just dropped! So, yes... I believe the sentiment of this thread is already here. I also believe there will be some sort of “push” that homes be size appropriate for the “regular” people (Hollyweird and the elite will still be allowed mansions and huge estates). IMHO.
Great Britain has gone downhill so badly, the make the U.S. look like paradise.
About the claim that they are “wasting too many bedrooms.” There is only one obvious solution to that complaint and I wouldn’t put it past the Marxists there to implement it (sounds like a Moral Absolute issue). I have one question, can it happen in the United States?
Crowds of the un-treated and their families might then gather outside hospitals demanding care, picketing entrances, and sparking riots.
For those who choose not to purchase insurance and refuse to pay the penalty/fine, will the IRS create SWAT-like teams to arrest violators and seize property? Will neighbors sit idly by or create a gauntlet and "no-go" zones for ObamaCare enforcement that the Lamestream media can hype as gun-toting "militia" types and racists who just don't like a black man as President... yet another reason for gun control?
Holy cow! Where’s that picture of Hillary that was on Drudge? They could be sisters!
Hmm, it took the American Colonists 8 years, with French, Dutch and Spanish help, to beat the British. The ACW took 4 years...
Not with all those foreclosed and unrentable units sitting vacant.
The housing market in Britain is very different.
The central government and local government (councils) play an even bigger role than they do in the US.
This short scene from near the end of my 3rd novel, Foreign Enemies And Traitors.
A quick phone call would be all right, thought Doug. Tennessee to Maryland wasnt so far, and it was after six PM. It was a stroke of luck that he had found the cell phone in a kitchen junk drawer, and that it was actually getting a signal. Finally, he was catching a break, and managing to turn lemons into lemonade.
They had arrived at the new safehouse in the late afternoon. It was in an isolated hollow surrounded by thick woods. Doug was happy just to squirm out of the cramped hiding place under the salvage truck. The secret compartments bottom and sides were ice cold metal, and had left him shivering with hypothermia. The new place wasnt much more than a cabin, but it had a cast-iron stove and plenty of firewood, so they had all been able to get warm, wash up, and enjoy a meal. After being locked with Phil into the frigid metal box under the truck for several hours, unable even to turn over, the cozy cabin was paradise. Hed eaten four steaming hot baked potatoes, slathered with fresh farm butter, and couldnt remember ever eating anything tastier or more filling in his life.
Their driver and host Dewey was a mysterious sort of person. Doug only knew his name from what was written on the doors of his junk truck. In age he fit somewhere between Boone and Carson, but like both of those men, he seemed a lot tougher than his years would indicate. Doug guessed that Dewey Lieberman was not his real name, but hed had few opportunities to talk with the man. Deweys conversations with Boone and Carson stopped short or shifted to some innocuous topic when he was around. Dewey left the cabin in his big truck, and returned after dark with an ordinary compact car. Again, he conferred quietly with Boone and Carson, but always out of Dougs earshot. Ive been traveling and operating with Boone for months, he thought, and two days after Carson shows up, Im cut out of his conversations. Then Boone announced, not discussed, but announced that they had somewhere to go tonight. They, but not him. Not Doug Dolan. No, good old faithful Doug would remain behind to what? Guard the isolated cabin? Hold down the fort? Boone and Carson left with Dewey after nightfall.
So who could blame him for his curiosity, after they had ditched out on him and left him behind? His natural inquisitiveness about the new safehouse had led him to discover the forgotten cell phone. It was inside of an old-fashioned metal pill container, buried beneath pliers, screwdrivers and scissors. He was actually shocked when he pushed the power button and it lit up, and he stared at its glowing screen in wonder for a long time. It was the first working cell phone that he had touched since before the earthquakes, one very long year ago. It was a prepaid phone, showing 137 minutes remaining.
A few minutes on the phone were all he needed, and nobody would ever know. Who counted a few airtime minutes, on an old cell phone left in a drawer? Nobody, Doug was sure. Not even these days. Boone had left him behind at the cabin safehouse, and that had been a blow to his pride. Was it because they didnt trust him, or because they just didnt need him? Well, Doug rationalized, at least the unexpected privacy will give me a chance to make the one phone call that Ive been anxious to make for so many months. He punched in the long-memorized Baltimore number, and miraculously, after clicks, buzzing and dead air pauses, he heard the phone ringing at the other end. After six or seven rings, the phone was picked up. The call had gone through, and his heart soared in anticipation!
Mom! Mom, its me!
But instead of his mothers voice, Doug heard music, and a man finally answered, but Doug couldnt understand what he was saying. A man? What was a strange man doing at his mothers house, answering the phone?
Hello, whos this? asked Doug. Where is Mrs. Dolan?
The phone was dropped with a bang. Long seconds later, somebody else picked it up, a female voice. Holá, hallo! Who ees?
This is DougDoug Dolan! Listen, wheres my mother? Where is Mrs. Dolan?
Meesees Do-lane? You ees Meesees Do-lane?
No! Im Doug Dolan, Mrs. Dolans son! Please, is Mrs. Dolan there?
Meesees Do-lane? Un minuto, please. I getting Meesees Do-lane, okay?
Doug waited, perplexed and more than a bit worried. Who were the people who had answered the phone at his mothers house? He could make out the music now; it was some kind of fast Latin salsa or Mexican ranchera music.
After a minute, he finally heard his mothers voice. Hello, who is this? she asked.
Mom, its me, Doug!
Douglas? Douglasyoure alive! Oh my goodness, oh thank God, youre alive! They told me that you were missing and presumed dead in Tennessee, after the earthquakes! But youre alive! Oh, thank God, thank God! Douglas, can you come home? When can you come home? Oh, I need you here Douglas, I need you! Where are you? When can you come home?
I dont know Mom; things are a little crazy right now. Just as soon as I can, I will. I promise. Mom, who answered the phone? I heard a man, and then a woman came on the line. Who are they?
Oh Doug, I have so much to tell you! So much has happened since you left!
Mom, who are those people who just answered the phone?
Doug, thats the Sanchorios family; theyre originally from El Salvador.
El Salvador? What are they doing in our house?
They live here now Douglas, they live here!
The government split our house up into apartments, after I couldnt pay the vacant room tax. Then they had the Sanchorios family move in upstairs. They were living in Nashville, but their apartment building was wrecked in the earthquakes. They were earthquake refugees.
Mom, what do you mean, the vacant room tax?
What? Oh, its new since last year. A new law. The property tax appraiser said that I had too many bedrooms for just one person to be living here. Too many square feet, theres a formula. Since I couldnt pay the vacant room tax, I had to take in boarders, boarders that the state assigned to live here. Thats what they do now.
Doug tried to make sense of it. Vacant room tax? Boarders? From El Salvador? Do they pay you rent?
No, not to me. Thats why I have boarders. Its instead of paying the vacant room tax. They waived the tax, since Ive taken in refugees. The state assigned them to live here. They get to live here for free. Their son joined that new army, the North American Legion, so they have priority on housing. Oh Doug, its just unbearable!
Where are they living? How many are there? Doug was stunned, coming to grips with the unexpected news about their home being subdivided.
They live upstairs. I cant keep track of how many there are; they come and go at all hours. Theres usually at least seven or eight of them, not counting babies. I think theyre subletting the rooms upstairs, but I cant tell whos who. It seems like they change practically every week, except for the Sanchorios family. We all share the kitchen, but Im too afraid to go in there when theyre around. I sleep in the sitting room next to the living room, thats my apartment now. The sitting room and the living room, and the downstairs bathroom, thats where I live. I cook on a hot plate, when the electricity is working. Oh, Douglas, when are you coming home?
I cant now Mom, but I will as soon as I can, I promise.
Douglas, they wont even let me use the upstairs bathroom, so I have to wash in the sink in the first floor bathroom. Oh, and the kitchen is ruined, just ruined! I dont even know what the second floor looks like; they wont let me come upstairs, but water is dripping through the ceiling and the plaster is falling down. They drink beer and yell and play their music so loud all night that I cant sleep. They park their cars on the lawn, and the grass all died. The men even pee outside! When I say anything, they just laugh in my face and call me la brooha blanca, I think that means the white witch. They laugh at me and say, su casa es mi casa. They curse at me and throw things at me, in my own house! Mrs. Dolan began to sob and weep.
Mom, you should go to the police, this isnt right!
But I did go to the authorities Douglas, I did! I had a lawyer file complaints. But Doug, the world is upside-down now! They got a free court-appointed lawyer, and they sued me for harassment and ethnic discrimination! The state was going to charge me with hate crimes, and I almost lost the house completely! Then I had to apologize to them, in court! I was never so humiliated in my entire life! The judge said I was lucky that I had boarders, since I couldnt pay the vacant room tax. Lucky, he said I was! I even had to go to a cultural sensitivity class, to get rehabilitated! Rehabilitated! Oh Doug, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? His mother began sobbing again.
I dont know Mom, I dont know. But Ill come home as soon as I can. Ive got some problems with the Army, so it might not be for a while, but Ill try at least to visit in a couple of weeks. Hang in there Mom! Ill help you the best that I can, as soon as I can get there.
Doug heard a mans loud voice in the background, and then his mother said quietly, Ive got to hang up. Mr. Sanchorios needs to use the phone now, so I have to go. Goodbye Douglas. I love you, and Im so happy to know that youre alive! Goodbye Douglas
Heck, bypass the middle man and go straight to death panels.
Yoou are so prescient TM - Please tell us the results of the GOP Primary Election;) You know you know.
Down to earth poetry - very real and very chilling.
Does this mean the queen will have to give up her palace?
Folks, this is GOVERNMENT-OWNED housing. Not private homes.
Why let Freeper hysteria and paranoia get in the way of facts?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.