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UK elderly are “wasting too many bedrooms” (CIVIL WAR if they try this in US.
CFP ^ | 05 FEB 12 | Anna Grayson

Posted on 02/05/2012 9:45:12 AM PST by DCBryan1

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To: DCBryan1

It has to be said —this generation brought everything it is about to get, on itself. Either through direct participation or by way of apathy and cowardice.


51 posted on 02/05/2012 12:26:06 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Chode
and hand over the equity in their homes - which they have spent a lifetime paying for –
52 posted on 02/05/2012 12:27:36 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DCBryan1
Years ago I predicted that it would happen here in California -- that at least there would be efforts to get enough signatures to permit voting on a proposition that would make a law where "pensioners will be encouraged to downsize to smaller properties allowing" their middle class three and four bedroom homes to be handed over to (most likely) undocumented (ILLEGAL aliens) workers per request of Mexico City and Mexicorruption's representatives in California's legislature, executive, and judicial branches.

Local authorities will ‘help’ older people move from their homes into ‘more suitable accommodation’.

That won't be necessary here thanks to Obamacare and Pelosi.

Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative (PELOSI) -- Modifying Democrat Richard Lamm's "seriously ill old people have a duty to die and get out of the way" -- to Obama's edict that "for any illness just give 'em a pill."

Thus no more curative treatments and now it's PELOSI!

What a deal! No need for more suitable accommodations -- the (and I am one) old bastards will be gone!

(Bring it on, Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats.)

53 posted on 02/05/2012 12:32:11 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DCBryan1

In looking at this painting it is interesting to see the very small group of Presidents that seemingly are on Obama’s side as he steps on the Constitution, while the greater number are on the other side.


54 posted on 02/05/2012 12:33:40 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Kartographer
BLOAT!...and then double check your "list" for the day the balloon goes up!

I like! Much better than SHTF! The constant repetition in the SHTF Planning: 20 Lessons from the Streets of Cairo post numbs the reader and after a bit the phrase loses impact. IMHO it is probably better to limit the frequency of usage of any "descriptive phrase", certainly to less than once per paragraph. I think overuse of such "capsule thinking phrases" my lead to blurring the message which I'm sure is not your desire. In general your articles are through, helpful, and of great practical value to anyone interested in ameliorating the future's potential unpleasantness.

Regards,
GtG

PS I also think the acronym, SHTF, is more acceptable then spelling out the entire phrase. Again, my opinion only.

55 posted on 02/05/2012 12:35:29 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Joshua Marcus
I hope that when they beg to be rescued, as we did for them in the 40’s, we say: “goog luck with that.”

But there isn't any principled majority "we" anymore. 40% or more of the U.S. population seems to want that kind of thing -- forced income and wealth distribution. 20% may be indifferent. May be too late to stop the progression toward Marxism here as well.

56 posted on 02/05/2012 12:39:06 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: DCBryan1

Clearly they are running out of other people’s money.

But that’s what happens when you reward theft through the government and punish achievement through the same means.

Just something more to look forward to if President Downgrade is able to fool enough people one more time.


57 posted on 02/05/2012 12:57:21 PM PST by BerserkPatriot (I despise Progressive Obama Socialists.)
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To: Beelzebubba; Chode; All
Um, no. The idiots behind this lunacy are looking at privately owned housing:

From the article:
The thinking behind this initiative was provided from a report, ‘Hoarding of Housing’ undertaken by a newly created charity, The Intergenerational Foundation (IF), a left leaning, research-based think-tank which ‘promotes fairness between generations’ as they state on their website. The report makes for depressing reading as its clearly aggressive stance toward older people who they consider to be ‘rattling around in big houses’ while younger families are being squeezed into smaller flats and under-sized houses. IF claims it is not urging the government to ‘round on older generations and turf them out of their homes’ but they have busily calculated that 25 million bedrooms are standing empty and that 51.5% of those aged over 65 have two or more bedrooms that they don’t need.

Public housing would just be the start. This is clearly aimed at privately owned property, and to call them out as the communists they are is not only appropriate, but absolutely necessary.
58 posted on 02/05/2012 12:58:34 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: EnglishCon
My neighbor across the road got what she thought a good deal on her home from the council - free maintenence, free rent and a lump sum in return for the deeds. Now they are trying to move her out to sheltered accomodation to clear the house for some lowlife scum.

Sounds like the reverse mortgage scheme here. That will turn into a bad deal for elders too.

59 posted on 02/05/2012 1:11:50 PM PST by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: DCBryan1
"The idea is to create more stocks of ‘affordable housing’ for younger families. This is a euphemism for subsidized houses for families that have deadbeat dads, single mothers with a battery of children from different fathers and other assorted welfare dependent cases that need ‘help’."

From those (in every political party) who used every immoral social, political and legal tactic to break families and cause the divorce/cohabitation paradigm. LOL! Can't squeeze wealth for big, man-hating government from worthless currencies and debt.

Embrace the default process. Without a whole lot of manufacturing that's not going to happen, there will be small government and freedom for young families ahead.

Starve the B!


60 posted on 02/05/2012 1:18:19 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: rottndog
thank you...
61 posted on 02/05/2012 1:19:27 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DCBryan1
I am with you brother. And there are more of us everyday.
Form a battleline....when the fighting commences get to fighting or get away.
62 posted on 02/05/2012 1:46:17 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: DCBryan1

Sooner or later, the UK will run out of “other people’s money.”


63 posted on 02/05/2012 1:50:47 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DCBryan1

Of course it can happen. We are nothing more than a resource, number of the state.


64 posted on 02/05/2012 2:42:06 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: sodpoodle
Housing value depreciation is driving this re-assessment and people are at the mercy of the ‘Council’ locals lairds. (In the Olde English)
65 posted on 02/05/2012 2:53:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: DCBryan1; NKP_Vet; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; Warthog-2; Tzar; word_warrior_bob; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


66 posted on 02/05/2012 2:56:55 PM PST by narses
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To: DCBryan1; 6SJ7

Heard of a van that is loaded with weapons
packed up and ready to go . . .


67 posted on 02/05/2012 3:01:03 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks DCBryan1.

get 'em out by friday ping:
Google

68 posted on 02/05/2012 3:08:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: DCBryan1
Oh....and FU Romneybots in case you are reading.

Say it LOUD!!!

69 posted on 02/05/2012 3:24:32 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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Private property for "me" but not for "thee" - okay for the elites to have their dachas in the USSR, or wealthy leftists their vast estates - but regular people? Too many useless eaters - ahem, unproductive old people - taking up more than their share of living space. Private property - an antiquated "unfair" concept. And of course the next step would be to just get rid of the useless elderly altogether.

70 posted on 02/05/2012 3:24:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Paladin2; All
Rural Council = Agenda 21

and YES, it is probably in your little town already - under an innocent, feel good, name. The heads of the groups will have moved in from elsewhere a couple years ago - and are spearheading a ‘sustainable living’ little ‘community’, funding funneling through from tax payers $$$.

http://www.robodoon.com/global_un_agenda_21.htm

Look for it, no matter how far away from the big cities you are - indeed, the further you are, the more likely it's in your town as they intend on taking over fly-over land.

and they have map of the US all plotted out - herding people into the ‘sustainable communities’ that have ‘everything you need within walking distance or pubic transport - no need or place for private transportation. The human living area will be separated by ‘wildlife corridors’ restricted from human use - for wildlife to travel - but don't bet on your having free access to travel independently or without permission/ (scroll down on link to see map. They have this all planned, step by step, inch by inch. They have just been biding time for when they get enough power - they are now all but a hair's breath away from total domination.

And anyone who doesn't think it can't now happen very fast - knows nothing of history and the fall of nations...Even as recent as Nazi Germany and Communist Russia.

People ignored all the signs with the ‘it can't happen here. I can't happen to us.” attitude. And then they woke up one morning to find “It just happened.”

71 posted on 02/05/2012 3:42:12 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
I can't happen to us

IT can't....

72 posted on 02/05/2012 3:44:43 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: DCBryan1

Socialism has it’s costs, and they will be paid.

It will happen here too eventually, if we keep our most popular socialist programs.

Don’t doubt it for a second.


73 posted on 02/05/2012 3:50:39 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: CodeToad; ronnie raygun
“The minute they take our guns its over.”

The second anyone tries they are over.

A lot of FReepers post that they have "lost" their guns in a boating accident or some such crap.

Well let it be known that I and my family haven't lost ours and if you want them come and try to get them.

It would be best if you send all of your forces as you will need all you you got.

74 posted on 02/05/2012 3:53:02 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Mountain Troll

Do they no longer have lampposts in England? Is there a shortage of rope? WHY IS THIS SORT OF THING TOLERATED?

______________________________

Are you kidding? This coming from a person who lives in a Country US that has cameras at every intersection? All in the name of Homeland Security??


75 posted on 02/05/2012 4:02:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: DCBryan1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yHNeeZQYE0&feature=fvsr


76 posted on 02/05/2012 4:08:15 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: HarleyD

Yes, do have the Queen go first. The royal family have how many bedrooms in their vast estates?


77 posted on 02/05/2012 4:10:36 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: sodpoodle

I think Obama beats Romney in the election.


78 posted on 02/05/2012 4:13:02 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Eaker

I say the same thing: I didn’t “lose” mine...wanna see them??? Try and take ‘em!


79 posted on 02/05/2012 4:51:08 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Eaker

Right on!


80 posted on 02/05/2012 4:59:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DCBryan1
Don't say that it can't happen here.

If it ever does, I'll be the first to know. For every person in my house there are 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. I've lost count of the number of times I've been told I should sell it to a larger family who "have use for all that space." Rather than envy it seems to be disapproval, like there's some set amount of space a person deserves, and we're taking more than our share.

81 posted on 02/05/2012 5:00:28 PM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: CodeToad

The guys that say they “lost” them will be the first ones confronted as they are wusses.

They will go after the men last.


82 posted on 02/05/2012 5:07:37 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: DCBryan1

Well, you know, Obama says “Jesus Would Want Us to Tax the Rich...”

So, let no spare bedroom go unused.


83 posted on 02/05/2012 5:43:17 PM PST by citizen (The Dims will all unite for Zero. We must soon unite behind our challenger and back him to victory!)
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To: ronnie raygun

I would like to see them go for it. Would be a hell of a fight.


84 posted on 02/05/2012 6:00:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Beelzebubba

Wrong. They are discussing private homes. Read the entire article.


85 posted on 02/05/2012 6:07:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Travis McGee

“since I couldn’t pay the vacant room tax.”

I’ve heard several rabid liberals discuss that there should be no homeless because people with “McMansions” should be required to board the homeless. It was described as a tax for the rich. There really are people that believe the government owns everything and anyone with anything got by stealing it from the government.


86 posted on 02/05/2012 7:14:34 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: CodeToad

There is no reconciling these two world views. Push comes to shove, there will be CW.


87 posted on 02/05/2012 7:39:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TEXOKIE

Thanks for the ping!


88 posted on 02/05/2012 8:07:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Travis McGee

...just....damn.


89 posted on 02/06/2012 1:07:38 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Travis McGee

I fear you are correct. The only question is what will come after.

There will be a lot more than two sides to the war. The US will end, and at least three new nations formed.


90 posted on 02/06/2012 7:35:23 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: DCBryan1
...it's like reading something from Dr. Zhivago!

Or, closer to home, the EF&D trilogy.

91 posted on 02/06/2012 12:09:38 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: DCBryan1
Re: BLOAT - IMHO, the priority needs to be centerfire calibers that start with .3, .4, and .5 (or NATO equivalents).
92 posted on 02/06/2012 1:21:46 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: DCBryan1

With the exception of the UK Freepers along with the right thinking people over there, few as they may be, maybe the muzzies taking over the UK would be a “good thing.” At least the muzzies do respect property rights and will gobble up and thin the herd of liberals. I’m torn what to do if that happened, sure I’d get our allies out of there and bring them here to make them safe but as to the libtards left over there, should we do the Christan thing and help them or sit by with a can of beer and popcorn and let the show begin?


93 posted on 02/14/2012 10:07:49 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: DTogo
Crowds of the un-treated and their families might then gather outside hospitals demanding care, picketing entrances, and sparking riots.

I've posted this many times before but what if somebody is denied healthcare under Bammycare? People naturally have spouses, children, siblings, friends, parents, grandparents, etc. depending on the age of the one denied. I would hate to be a member of a death panel making such a decision to deny. I'd stay out of dark allies, look under my car before starting it, keep my eyes out for shadows, and jump at every noise I hear at night. Is that noise I hear at 2:30 AM the neighbor's cat or is it Grandpa Jones' grandson, which I denied care to his granddad, with a posse of his friends armed with baseball bats and a shotgun? How about blocking the road in front of me, an old lady in a 1967 Caddy. Did she break down or is she the wife of the man who I denied a hip replacement to, waiting for me where as I step out of my car to help, the last thing I hear is a .45 going off just before St. Peter appears. It's 10 PM, my kid is late in coming home and the phone rings. How about this, what if I denied care to a Tony Soprano?

I know under the insurance companies, there are cases of denial but in a lot of cases, you can get the doctor and hospital to get them to reverse their decision or just go ahead and let the family pay for it and/or go on a charity case. Not so with the government, if you are denied, there is very little redress at all. Ayn Rand put in in a long monologue where it boils down to this, "the more laws you create, the more criminals you make" and when you eliminate the process and route where one can make a challenge to make things right legally, that leaves only one other way, revenge and/or at least forced coercion via illegal means. This is a pandora's box to be sure, people will do anything for their loved ones and for survival.

I remember Quark's quote from DS9 (Star Trek) about us humans, "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."

I don't feel comfortable in visioning this scenario, but if we keep going on the present track, it will happen.
94 posted on 02/14/2012 10:33:40 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: CAluvdubya; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
Wow....just, wow.

I can totally see the Bamster pulling this.

Same here, CAluvdubya. God help us if that jackass gets a second term...

95 posted on 02/14/2012 10:40:34 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Travis McGee
There is no reconciling these two world views. Push comes to shove, there will be CW.

Yeah, there is no talking to them, talking to a brick wall is more of a productive task. I hate to say it, but there is a side of me that says, "put up your dukes, time to rumble."
96 posted on 02/14/2012 10:40:53 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: redgolum
There will be a lot more than two sides to the war. The US will end, and at least three new nations formed.
Maybe more, perhaps the Mormons will realize their dream of an independent Deseret Republic for example. What three nations do you see? I'd probably see a small nation where the libs will be in one, we'd have our own, perhaps a revived Confederacy, and maybe an Aztlan with the fourth being Deseret.
97 posted on 02/14/2012 10:44:30 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: DCBryan1

In the Orthodox Jewish community a number of elderly, retired people are selling their big homes and dividing the profits among their (usually large) family members while they find themselves a smaller place to live. Others are subletting and looking for tenants to bring in extra income.

It makes economic sense (and financial help for an increasingly impoverished Orthodox sector). However, it is their choice. Not the government’s, not even the rabbis’. What someone does with his house is his own business.

I can’t believe how dog-eat-dog it’s become out there, as far as competing for resources. I might face a similar situation, as a single woman living in a 3-bedroom apartment (which I share with 2 other women). The day might come when I’m forbidden to live here and instead required to move to a woman’s residence (usually single resident occupancy).


98 posted on 02/14/2012 10:56:58 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: nutmeg

Scary stuff. Got to make more room for the mohammedans and their huge families.


99 posted on 02/15/2012 5:59:59 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: dfwgator

Is that a Photoshop of Hillary? I remember her saying something like that years ago.

""Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you," she said at a fund-raiser for radical Sen. Barbara Boxer.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," the former first lady admitted."


100 posted on 02/15/2012 6:54:01 AM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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