[Travis McGee]

There is no reconciling these two world views. Push comes to shove, there will be CW.

[redgolum]

I fear you are correct. The only question is what will come after.

There will be a lot more than two sides to the war. The US will end, and at least three new nations formed.

[Nowhere Man]

There is no reconciling these two world views. Push comes to shove, there will be CW.

Yeah, there is no talking to them, talking to a brick wall is more of a productive task. I hate to say it, but there is a side of me that says, "put up your dukes, time to rumble."