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Fullerton airport faces losing controller funds
The Orange County Register ^ | February 6, 2012 | Eugene W. Fields

Posted on 02/06/2012 4:13:43 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel

A proposed cut in federal funding for contract air-traffic controllers at non-commercial airports across the country would make the airspace around Fullerton Municipal Airport dangerous, an airport spokesman said Monday.

In Fullerton, removing the air-traffic controllers would save the federal government $500,000.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: obama; vacation
Something's really wrong here. Unless my math is off, the cost of air traffic controllers for a year at this airport is only about 1/8 the cost of the Obamas' Christmas Hawaiian vacation. So to put it into perspective, they could fund traffic controllers for *eight years* for the cost of what they spent to go to Hawaii for 17 days? What's wrong with this picture???
1 posted on 02/06/2012 4:13:48 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Not seeing why federal taxes should be paying for local air traffic controllers at a small municipal airport.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 4:22:00 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

These useless local government air traffic controllers are totally unnecessary.

Just more scare tactics by the lame stream media, the willing accomplices of government control whoever is in power.

3 posted on 02/06/2012 4:45:17 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rottndog; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

Many such little used government control towers should be closed to allow smooth and efficient operation as a non-towered airport.

See:

OPERATIONS AT NON TOWERED AIRPORTS

http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/sa08.pdf

AVIATION PING


4 posted on 02/06/2012 4:49:56 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rottndog; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

Many such little used government control towers should be closed to allow smooth and efficient operation as a non-towered airport.

See:

OPERATIONS AT NON TOWERED AIRPORTS

http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/sa08.pdf

AVIATION PING


5 posted on 02/06/2012 4:51:12 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rottndog

Why does the phrase “realistic landing fees” come to mind.

I once landed a Cessna 172 at the ATL airport in the middle of the afternoon... my fee was $3 (yes, three dollars).

We spend more on one illegal alien in a jail in 30 seconds.


6 posted on 02/06/2012 5:05:49 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

I flew out of Fullerton Airport many years ago..........


7 posted on 02/06/2012 5:10:57 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: KeyLargo
I now have two airports within 28 miles of me.....one is out in the middle of nowhere. No tower, little of nothing.

The other is near a bigger city....and they have private jets taking off...with no control tower either.

8 posted on 02/06/2012 5:15:56 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: rottndog

Probably because airports fall under the auspices of the Federal Aviation Administration.


9 posted on 02/06/2012 5:17:16 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (Newt’s not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn’t running this year. - shoff)
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To: KeyLargo

Fullerton Airport is between Los Angeles and Orange County — the L.A. basin is among the busiest of areas for aviation traffic in the country. It’s a high traffic general aviation feeder airport for both of these (as well as Long Beach, Ontario, and maybe others) — traffic control is crucial to its safety.


10 posted on 02/06/2012 5:20:36 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (Newt’s not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn’t running this year. - shoff)
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11 posted on 02/06/2012 5:34:29 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
Fullerton Airport is between Los Angeles and Orange County — the L.A. basin is among the busiest of areas for aviation traffic in the country. It’s a high traffic general aviation feeder airport for both of these (as well as Long Beach, Ontario, and maybe others) — traffic control is crucial to its safety.

I've flown an airship into Fullerton 3 or 4 times, and the joint was always jumpin' with numerous air operations. Some airports are sufficiently busy as to require tower controllers, and I suggest that Fullerton is one of them.

Consider also that Fullerton is among and beneath some rather complex airspace, gets its share of coastal stratus, and (IIRC) there is a tallish radio transmission tower practically in the northbound departure path (meaning that the tower peeps probably save several lives a year just by turning pilots away from the radio tower.)

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12 posted on 02/06/2012 7:15:47 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner
Although I'm not a pilot, I've flown in and out of FUL in private planes since the '60s. It's always been busy, and when you're paying by the hour that time spent on the ground waiting for T/O clearance makes you begin thinking if there aren't maybe other fields nearby with less traffic.

Of course, there aren't, which makes FUL that much more in demand.

The tower you refer to was the 750' KFI radio tower sitting less than two miles WNW from the end of runway 06/24. It came down on a clear Sunday morning in 2004 when a small plane crashed into it enroute to Fullerton. There is a short account on Wikipedia of the tragedy and the ensuing difficulties they had in erecting a replacement tower, which is now equipped with strobe lights to warn pilots.

In the early years, the KFI tower was all by itself in the middle of a cow pasture, which placement helped extend the 50,000-watt signal's range. Nowadays, the area is filled with warehouses and light industry. But the tower is visible for miles, even at "just" 684 ft.

View Google Map

An auxiliary tower, a few hundred feet west, was pressed into service shortly after the 750-foot tower was destroyed by the crash.

13 posted on 02/06/2012 10:17:08 PM PST by logician2u
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To: KeyLargo

About a year ago I was going to Ocala for lunch with my wife.
Fog had shrouded in Ocala so we simply flew over to Leesburg. Set the local frequency in and landed after making my calls.
Upon landing I looked up at a control tower.
I taxied over to the restaurant and a guy came up to me and told me to call the tower.
Tower had opened a few weeks ago and I was unaware. MY fault but the tower jockey told me it has happened about 5 times a day since they opened.
To not make a report on the incident and that nearly all the central Florida fields were going tower as a result of the growth of flying in the area.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 4:09:18 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Seaplaner
Consider also that Fullerton is among and beneath some rather complex airspace, gets its share of coastal stratus, and (IIRC) there is a tallish radio transmission tower practically in the northbound departure path (meaning that the tower peeps probably save several lives a year just by turning pilots away from the radio tower.)

Correct on all counts. And some years back, a plane hit the radio tower which was supposed to have been rebuilt, but I'm not sure that it has been.

15 posted on 02/07/2012 4:12:50 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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