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FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremists
Reuters ^ | February 6, 2012 | Patrick Temple-West

Posted on 02/07/2012 7:52:42 AM PST by Twotone

Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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Oh my! Convictions of 'extremists' for white-collar crime have increased from 10 to 18!! I wonder what the conviction rate for OWS criminals would be, assuming those in charge would actually go after them instead of enable their behavior.
1 posted on 02/07/2012 7:52:50 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

I think I might be an extremist.


2 posted on 02/07/2012 7:56:46 AM PST by Grunthor (Mitt Romney and anyone supporting him can go fornicate themselves with a cactus)
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To: Twotone

FBI thinks they work for King George. ;-)


3 posted on 02/07/2012 8:00:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Twotone
The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Yeah, that sure is threatening...

By the way: Since when is a citizen having a particular belief any concern of the government's?

Regards,

4 posted on 02/07/2012 8:00:19 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Grunthor
The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

May? The FBI sure has a caseload then, starting with the entire Obama cabinet and Timmy Geitner at the top of the list..........

5 posted on 02/07/2012 8:00:45 AM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: Twotone

Voting for non-Democrats is extremist activity.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 8:01:19 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: Twotone
We suggest that you do as you are told. Big Brother reminds you...do not get uppity.

GET BACK IN LINE!!!!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 02/07/2012 8:01:31 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: Grunthor

I am an extremist, but only because every body else (with the exception of my fellow FReepers & sundry others) has moved left.

I think it’s important to point that out to folks now & again.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 8:02:07 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

It really does sound like they’re describing the average OWS protestor more than your typical Tea party type. Look at the evidence: they live in tents on public property; they flaunt US laws by using and trafficking drugs; we have seen them defecating in cop cars; they obviously don’t pay taxes because they’re unemployed; and they’re associated with radical left wing fire bomb throwing anarchist types.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 8:03:28 AM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Twotone

Who is threatening to whom here? And who gives a rip what signal is being sent? We probably need to know who the jackboots are going to be anyway, and sooner than later. The ones who recognize exactly what is happening here are aging fast. The very young can’t even spell collapse, or tyranny, or Marxism.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 8:04:13 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Romnomoney buys Santorum. Newt has become a CAUSE & Rick S, a tool.)
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To: Twotone

OH NO!

You’ve opened this thread....!

And now, YOU are on THE LIST!


11 posted on 02/07/2012 8:04:49 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: RitaOK

Ditto all that! You read my mind.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 8:07:08 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: G Larry

But I am a master of disguise & they will only have a clue as to my true identity! ;-)

Actually, I’m probably on LOTS of lists these days.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 8:09:36 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone; All

Obama and his admin have:

1) Support the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quida take overs of Egypt and Libya.

2) Do not lift a finger to help true liberty protesters in Iran.

3) Decide not to indict or go after Black Panthers who blatantly stood outside polling/vitong places in 2008 and intimidate voters.

4) HAs brazenly flaunted and broken US law to provide illegal arms to MExican Drug cartels in the hopes of border violence so they cancrack down on US gun onwership, and then lied under oath abpout it and conspired to cover it up with Fast and Furios (http://www.jeffhead.com/fandf.htm)

5) Call an ISlamic Jihad attack by a traitor ISlamic US Officer at Ft. Hood “office violence.”

6) Refuse to call our foight against Islamic Terrorists a War on Terror, but instead label it “foreign expediency operations,” or some such babble.

7) Warned Americans that returning American servicemen, who have risked their lives for our liberty against the Islamic extremeist, may be terrorist minded themselves if they are Christian.

8) Disdain Bible clinging, gun-toting Americans as extremist...both of which, BTW, are rights enumerated in the Constitution.

9) MAde political war on Christian charities and Church run hospitals by demanding that the provide abortions in their facilities against the basic tennants and beliefs of the chuirchs that operate those charities and hospitals.

10) Now warn that American soveriegn citizens (which we all are meant to be) themselves mught be “terrorists.”

It could not be more clear. The Obama administration is doubling down on its efforts to declare war on and oppress and hound and ultimately find reason to incarcerate American citizens who have faith in, believe in, and rely upon the fundamental moral values that created this nation and have kept it strong, free, prosperous and safe for over 230 years.

Obama is an abject marxist Ideolog and must be defeated in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


14 posted on 02/07/2012 8:11:19 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Twotone

coming back around...American citizens were high on the list of publicly announced threats the first months bozo took office....


15 posted on 02/07/2012 8:13:38 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: RC one

“RC one - It really does sound like they’re describing the average OWS protestor more than your typical Tea party type...”

We currently have an adminsitration that supports ‘The OCCUPIERS’, and what they stand for ~ Class Warfare.
Ideology vs. civility
We have a Canadian website (funded by Soros) inciting to “return to the spirit of 1968 (Convention CHAOS)”.

Who are the criminals ?
The ethics of this administration is ‘upsde down’.


16 posted on 02/07/2012 8:13:46 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Twotone
The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

if i choose paper over plastic, i'm an extremist now?

as for going bankrupt, it didn't happen when the US went off the gold standard... that's just when it started

and i'm pretty sure the majority of ron paul supporters would be classified a extremists under this thinking

of course, having went Galt and stopped working... thereby not supplying them with the amount of tax revenue they were use to... i'm sure i'm now classified as an extremist

17 posted on 02/07/2012 8:17:25 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Twotone
This FBI threat dovetails nicely with "Indefinite Internment", doesn't it!

Watch out, Sheriff Joe!

18 posted on 02/07/2012 8:18:07 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Twotone

i’m 100% certain if you believe article 2 section 1 should not be discarded...

you must be an extremist


19 posted on 02/07/2012 8:21:53 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Twotone

The Democrats aren’t afraid of guns. They just want to be sure they’re the ones telling people who to point the guns at.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 8:26:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Twotone
Project Megiddo?

Not that sh!t again. The last time that the elderly 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats and their spoiled-brat issue (the Clinton Adm.) controlled the government they spent all effort watching them Christians.

Meanwhile radical Muslims were taking lessons on how to fly wide-body jet liners into office buildings.

21 posted on 02/07/2012 8:28:05 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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22 posted on 02/07/2012 8:31:52 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: Twotone; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...

CW2 Ping


23 posted on 02/07/2012 8:32:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jeff Head

you forgot the whole *law* that allows citizens to be detained, indefinately, at the whim of the totus...


24 posted on 02/07/2012 8:45:11 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Travis McGee

posts 35 & 36;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843324/posts?page=35#35


25 posted on 02/07/2012 8:46:00 AM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Twotone

FBI warning not just to those who have denounced their citizenship but to the rest of those EXTREMEISTS (70% of the American population) who think the government is too intrusive.


26 posted on 02/07/2012 8:46:17 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Twotone

Extremists = “Followers of The Constitution”


27 posted on 02/07/2012 9:05:50 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Twotone

anyone that isn’t a government employee is an extremist as far as our ruling elite and their agents paid by the taxpayers are concerned


28 posted on 02/07/2012 9:08:04 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Twotone
Friendly But Incompetent can KMA.

III%


29 posted on 02/07/2012 9:08:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Grunthor
I think I might be an extremist.

I know I am.

30 posted on 02/07/2012 9:10:28 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: blueunicorn6

“The Democrats aren’t afraid of guns. They just want to be sure they’re the ones telling people who to point the guns at.”

A yes, simply maintaining a long standing tradition.

Catch the pic of Senator Diane, “Turn them all in” on this page.

http://www.performanceboats.com/political-rhetoric/55173-operation-dragon-fire.html


31 posted on 02/07/2012 9:11:26 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Twotone

Oh boy, here it comes. There will be, for some reason, a martial law declared before November.


32 posted on 02/07/2012 9:11:26 AM PST by Toespi
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To: cuban leaf

The Food and Beverage, Inc. do work for King Obama who is still a British citizen.

Obama, the President of the U.S., Is Currently Also a British Citizen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2317539/posts


33 posted on 02/07/2012 9:21:17 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: teenyelliott
Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...
34 posted on 02/07/2012 9:23:39 AM PST by ExSoldier (FMR Infantry Captain; 25 yrs an NRA Instructor; Master of KLIK-PAO!)
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To: Twotone

As the Feds become more extremist tyrants of the Left an increasing amount of Americans move to the Right who don’t want any part of that.


35 posted on 02/07/2012 9:24:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Travis McGee

I forget but how many members of obama’s admin owe back taxes again?


36 posted on 02/07/2012 9:24:21 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Twotone

I’m sure I would be tagged an extremist, though I advocate following all laws - render unto Caesar. I’ve written two books that explain how we are being forced as citizens to the edge by political and monetary policy:

“Going Galt: Surviving Economic Armageddon” http://www.futurnamics.com/goinggalt.php
“Surviving Civil War II” http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php

Because we are spending as a nation 40% more than we pay in taxes, the Fed Reserve must destroy the currency. That is taxation without representation, because inflation is a tax. To survive, citizns will have to take measures to protect themselves against the ravages of inflation (biflation really). Those measures are always throughout history eventually made illegal by the state.

My advice is to stay completely legal, but to take the measures you can to get off the roller coaster. There’s quite a lot you can do. The state won’t like it, but from verything I can see we are headed towards a Greek like economic collapse, so it will be every man for himself.


37 posted on 02/07/2012 9:40:55 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: ExSoldier
Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...

WOW!

That says it all!

If it's your slogan, copyright it, now.

38 posted on 02/07/2012 9:47:47 AM PST by tsomer
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To: Travis McGee

“sovereign citizens”

I REALLY hate to say this but I know a few SC types. They really have gone off the deep end and believe they can live in the US, consider themselves covered by the privileges of the Constitution but then claim they have no responsibility to pay taxes, obey reasonable laws, or answer to our courts. They are like liberals: Little children that are anti-authoritarian.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 10:03:34 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I recall reading about that vote— extending the Homeland Security bill passed in the Senate a few months back.

My reading on it was somewhat hurried, but one commentator noted that the “indefinite extension” provisions applied specifically to individuals associated with the events of 9-ll and the parties responsible.

In other words, it was pretty well limited to a specific group of terrorists of a specific event, not a broad and general designation.

On the other hand, the decision announced by the administration (last year, or two years ago? ) to strike the word Islamist or Muslim from any reference to terrorism (arguing that it was defamatory or prejudiced or some such) was ominous.

Maybe somebody with a better grasp on this can fill in here.


40 posted on 02/07/2012 10:08:56 AM PST by tsomer
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To: Twotone
Instead of just the Reuters article, does anyone have access to a copy of the FBI email itself?

Who exactly did they mention? Just the SC types? Or was it general enough to describe almost anyone on the political Right?

41 posted on 02/07/2012 10:18:49 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: RitaOK
The ones who recognize exactly what is happening here are aging fast. The very young can’t even spell collapse, or tyranny, or Marxism.

Good points. Sadly they are true. Our public schools have succeeded in their main goals -- to indoctrinate the subjects to accept an all powerful State.

The left has succeeded in making those that rail against the government as being overbearing as a direct attack on Obama.

To the evil left, an attack on the State is an attack on Obama. Now..... where did we hear such analogy in the past.... oh yea, "Attack Germany, you attack the Führer"

42 posted on 02/07/2012 10:22:02 AM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: tsomer
Feel free to use it, I overheard it at an IDPA match a few years ago.
43 posted on 02/07/2012 10:35:09 AM PST by ExSoldier (FMR Infantry Captain; 25 yrs an NRA Instructor; Master of KLIK-PAO!)
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To: CodeToad

The “Sovern Citizens” are following Admiralty law which is the rule of the Seas between nations.

Here it is explained,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwZhU6uv9sA

and here is another,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rGyqDkqSXI


44 posted on 02/07/2012 10:35:39 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Twotone

‘The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard’————

That just described congress, the hollywood ‘stars’, hip hop ‘artists’ and the Obama administration.

So who’s the extremists?


45 posted on 02/07/2012 10:36:22 AM PST by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: tsomer
I was referring to the National Defense Authorization Act, known as the NDAA, in which American citizens could be indefinitely detained; a requirement for passage insisted upon yet ultimately denied by B. Hussein Obama.

Homeland security has tried to label ex-military, gun-owners and militia members as terrorists. Now the FBI is trying to create a new classification of outlaw that likely includes most FReepers.

It strikes me as ominous.

46 posted on 02/07/2012 10:39:39 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 10:58:58 AM PST by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Sprite518

I know all about it and the twisted logic they use, including that “Admiralty Flag” BS they conjured up.


48 posted on 02/07/2012 11:00:57 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Twotone
The Fumbling Bureaucratic Idiots haven't had an original idea in years. Obviously this has been handed down from on high and they ran with it. I suppose this is just a ploy to get the public away from thinking about the real threat MUSLIMS!
49 posted on 02/07/2012 11:10:12 AM PST by JayAr36
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