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Shyness could be defined as a mental illness
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7:20AM GMT 10 Feb 2012 | Donna Bowater

Posted on 02/13/2012 12:37:18 AM PST by Olog-hai

Shyness, bereavement and eccentric behavior could be classed as a mental illness under new guidelines, leaving millions of people at risk of being diagnosed as having a psychiatric disorder, experts fear.

Under changes planned to the diagnosis handbook used by doctors in the US, common behavioral traits are likely to be listed as a mental illness, it was reported.

The fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) of Mental Disorders could also include internet addiction and gambling as a medical problem. …

"We need to be very careful before further broadening the boundaries of illness and disorder," Simon Wessely, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, told the Daily Mail. "Back in 1840, the census of the United States included just one category for mental disorder. "By 1917, the American Psychiatric Association recognized 59, rising to 128 in 1959, 227 in 1980, and 347 in the last revision. Do we really need all these labels? Probably not. And there is a real danger that shyness will become social phobia, bookish kids labeled as Asperger's and so on."

Peter Kinderman, head of the Institute of Psychology at the University of Liverpool, said it was not "humane" to describe shy or bereaved people as "mentally ill". …

There are fears the new classifications are being driven by drug companies seeking to profit from a greater number of illnesses while the private health care system in the States requires a diagnosis recognized by the manual for a patient to be treated as ill.

"DSM5 will radically and recklessly expand the boundaries of psychiatry. Many millions will receive inaccurate diagnosis and inappropriate treatment," said Allen Frances of Duke University, North Carolina.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; dsm5; mentalillness; moralabsolutes; scam; shyness
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1 posted on 02/13/2012 12:37:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Psssst!!!

2 posted on 02/13/2012 12:52:04 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Going for a new record of consecutive possssts?

And what are you so pssssssst off about!? ;)


3 posted on 02/13/2012 1:02:05 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: Olog-hai

Psychology and psychiatry could be defined as neurosis. Seriously.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 1:03:03 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Olog-hai
Yep, it's always the shy, quiet types!

Like John Hinkley Jr. had to shoot Reagan so Twinkle Toes would like him!

5 posted on 02/13/2012 1:15:01 AM PST by TRY ONE (Obummer: The economy sucks......might as well go play golf)
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To: 21twelve

LOL!!!!

That was fun, actually!!! I probably should be WHISPERING when I say psssssssssssssst, not shouting, huh.


6 posted on 02/13/2012 1:20:20 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: TRY ONE

Then I’ve dated a lot of “mentally ill” girls since high school then..
“do you wanna go out this Saturday?”
HER: “Really??, oh you..tee hee (curls up, smirking, covers face with a notebook)


7 posted on 02/13/2012 1:24:49 AM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: Olog-hai
"Back in 1840, the census of the United States included just one category for mental disorder. By 1917, the American Psychiatric Association recognized 59, rising to 128 in 1959, 227 in 1980, and 347 in the last revision. Do we really need all these labels?"

You do if you want to make money, baby! It's all about billable disorders...Ka-ching! Better than printing your own money.
8 posted on 02/13/2012 1:31:56 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: TigersEye

Well,speaking as someone who is bipolar I find my Psychiatrist to be very helpful and necessary.

I can’t help having a chemical imbalance and I need medication.

Seriously.


9 posted on 02/13/2012 1:42:07 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: 21twelve

LOL,what are you,a snake?

(I’m just busting your hump.)

:)


10 posted on 02/13/2012 1:43:21 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: PowderMonkey

And yet same-sex attraction is no longer a mental disorder.


11 posted on 02/13/2012 1:57:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Brad's Gramma

“Shyness, bereavement and eccentric behavior could be classed as a mental illness...”

Well you aren’t shy anyway! But you mind be considered eccentric. I’m glad this is over in the U.K. - but I imagine it is only a matter of time till it makes it here. Like the soilders coming back with PTSD being labelled as such IIRC. :(

Will make it interesting in trying to buy a gun. Can’t try to be too discrete about it as you might be considered “shy”. But can’t be too loud and friendly either as that might be eccentric. And don’t even THINK of showing your sadness and “bereavement” when you realize you can’t afford the new $1200 model that just came it!


12 posted on 02/13/2012 2:05:13 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve
As soon as I read the title I thought; "adding to the list of Americans that will be denied their 2nd Rights".

Also general population control/social engineering - can't have all the individuals out there can we?

13 posted on 02/13/2012 2:47:34 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Olog-hai

I can’t wait to see the side effects of the new drugs that the FDA will approve to treat this “disorder.”


14 posted on 02/13/2012 3:26:50 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: NativeSon

“Also general population control/social engineering...”

I was thinking that it is a way to add more folks to the unemployment roles. And one would think a government would NOT want that. Unless of course by having them on the dole then the government has more control of more people, more control of the money, more power, etc.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 3:27:29 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: NativeSon

This is just one aspect of the general idea that “if they outlaw everything, we will all be criminals”.

The Socialist Masters are constantly on the lookout for new ways to tighten the chains the Slave Population (ie, us).

Of course the 2nd amendment is one of the main targets of this latest refinement of the “outlaw everything” strategy.


16 posted on 02/13/2012 3:29:13 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Olog-hai
Too embarrassing to think about...
17 posted on 02/13/2012 3:35:12 AM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Olog-hai

Well, I’ve always been shy, and I will say that I think that trait has held me back from accomplishing everything I think I could have accomplished in my life. It’s difficult to work with people, especially when I need to contact someone I’ve never met before.

However, I’m not sure this qualifies as a mental illness. Maybe this new classification of shyness was the brainchild of some extrovert who delights in putting shy people on the spot. Too many extroverts just can’t tolerate seeing shy people being shy, and think they have some sort of mission to “bring us out”—when we’re perfectly happy to just sit there and listen.


18 posted on 02/13/2012 3:37:44 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Olog-hai

Psychology is the science of creating names for things that don’t exist.


19 posted on 02/13/2012 3:44:05 AM PST by circlecity
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To: TigersEye

Great! Lose your wife, lose your guns!!!


20 posted on 02/13/2012 4:08:32 AM PST by catman67
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To: 21twelve
The new protected class "those with gub'mint sanctioned mental disorders".

It's a win-win for the tyrants - no gvns, dependent on the government for everything and will vote/march/protest/riot as commanded. - dependent, disarmed and obedient just as Lenin intended

21 posted on 02/13/2012 4:20:27 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: max americana

watch out for those freaks, I’ve dated them too. They are the bane of society! /s


22 posted on 02/13/2012 4:21:24 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai

It kinda looks like they’re trying to put forth the notion that shyness = conservative and that it would be an undesirable personality trait. Polite society is not and need not be “LOUD AND PROUD”. I reject their reality and substitute my own.


23 posted on 02/13/2012 4:22:15 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: exDemMom

Yes, I say let people be who they are. Also, on the flip side, if everyone was really extroverted, can you imagine how loud and hard conversations would be? Everyone would be trying to talk over each other.

on a side note, you’ve been reported to the shy police hehe.

(of course that last part was just a joke). Now I’m nervous, I think that’s eccentric and they’re after me too.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 4:25:31 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai

But homosexuality (certainly a non-scientific endeavor) continues to be treated as completely normal.


25 posted on 02/13/2012 4:51:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 21twelve
Well you aren’t shy anyway! But you mind be considered eccentric. I’m glad this is over in the U.K. - but I imagine it is only a matter of time till it makes it here

Yeah. It's already there. the topic under discussion is The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association.

While the psychiatrists quoted are British, they are critical of the Manual.

An obvious clue is that no British psychiatrist/psychologist would class eccentricity as a disorder - at most it would receive the evaluation made by the Sunday Times psychological evaluation in 1967 of Robin Knox-Johnston after he announced his intention of being the first man to solo circumnavigate the world non-stop: "Disturbingly normal"

26 posted on 02/13/2012 5:02:46 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Olog-hai

What is eccentric anyway? How do you classify a country full of independent individuals doing their own thing. This is just a ruse to try and drug everyone.

Shy people probably do not talk much because they have nothing to say to the kinds of idiots writing this drivel.

Grieving is a normal human emotion and is even healthy for someone accepting the loss of a loved one.

This is a case of lunatics running the asylum.


27 posted on 02/13/2012 5:07:11 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: formosa
What is eccentric anyway?

Anyone who is not a sheeple.

28 posted on 02/13/2012 5:24:43 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Olog-hai

Psychiatry is not a true science in that it is impossible to PROVE and REPEAT their conclusions with any reasonable level of certainty. We should not put a lot of stock in their witchcraft.

For every real mental disorder Psychiatry will make up 10 others if for no other reason than to rack up billable hours and to make sure nobody has to take responsibility for their own actions. 90% of their OPINIONs are nothing more than that; unscientific OPINIONs, which cannot be proved and or repeated by independent means. They rely on the 10% of real problems which can be proved to bilk the public out of millions.

If you need another reason to distrust Psychiatry, just ask yourself why the communists wanted it to achieve a high level of importance in the USA. It was included in their manifesto to aid in our destruction.


29 posted on 02/13/2012 5:29:54 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Olog-hai

Shyness is a symptom of a mental disorder, not a mental disorder in itself.


30 posted on 02/13/2012 5:34:52 AM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (Don't let the GOP-E hijack Congress too. Pound the pavement for your local conservative rep today!)
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To: formosa

It isn’t mandatory to go to a shrink or a counselor. Who is to know if anyone is shy or grieving? As for people who need medication: they can balance their need with the effect of the label on the rest of their lives.

(Anecdote, not data, alert):

I have known both a PhD psychologist and an MD psychiatrist in my social life. The PhD was a conservative who was run out of his hospital-based practice by concerted effort of the liberals in his department. The majority of his practice was people with insurance that covered his services. He was fairly bored with their problems. He ended up working in the State prison system, which he absolutely hated. His private life was something of a mess.

The MD psychiatrist was also a conservative. He was known for prescribing medication to all his patients. He disliked having to talk with patients and so, hired PhD’s and Social Workers to do the cognitive therapy. He, himself, was considered eccentric and was almost pathologically shy. He had a private practice.

Many folks subscribe to the white-knuckle school of therapy. So, you are shy, lonely, grieving or have a hobby that hurts no one, but that others consider odd? Keep it to yourself. If you do not seek psychological help, no one knows what your classification is.

At some point, I suppose we could all be subject to mandatory counseling and be committed against our will, but that isn’t quite here, yet.

Avoid the idiots and the asylum.


31 posted on 02/13/2012 5:34:57 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Olog-hai

Shame more shyness isn’t going around. We have an over abundance of attention whore “look at me now’s”.


32 posted on 02/13/2012 5:36:59 AM PST by dforest
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To: goodwithagun

There is already an FDA approved drug that treats this disorder. It is called “Tequila”. You can see some if its side effects in several popular reality shows and mature themed home videos.


33 posted on 02/13/2012 6:04:16 AM PST by okkev68
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To: Olog-hai

Shyness = mental illness, but grown men sexually desiring other men = perfectly normal. Suuuuuure.


34 posted on 02/13/2012 6:04:16 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Olog-hai

Most people consider me shy. I’m certainly quiet. Of course, I seem normal to me.

Despite this “disorder,” over the years I have run for school committee in hostile, moonbat territory, started my own 501 c(3), and served on the board of a crisis pregnancy center, in addition to working a full-time job and opening my own rapidly-growing business.

So shyness hasn’t been a great handicap.

FWIW, Thomas Aquinas’ peers in the seminary called him the “dumb ox,” because he was a big man who spoke little. And he turned out OK.


35 posted on 02/13/2012 6:17:54 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Most people consider me shy. I’m certainly quiet. Of course, I seem normal to me. Despite this “disorder,” over the years I have run for school committee in hostile, moonbat territory, started my own 501 c(3), and served on the board of a crisis pregnancy center, in addition to working a full-time job and opening my own rapidly-growing business.

Different degrees of shyness. I knew a girl in college with a bad case of shyness that really hampered her. If a Prof called on her she would get red faced and her answer came out in a stutter. I lived in a coed dorm and she never spoke and if someone said something to her it one a one word answer.

36 posted on 02/13/2012 6:47:28 AM PST by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

-—Different degrees of shyness.——

That’s a fair point. I’ve never encountered anyone that shy, so that’s very unusual.

More importantly, this behavior could simply be the transient or permanent result of abuse, in which case the behavior is a symptom, but not a cause.


37 posted on 02/13/2012 6:56:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Olog-hai

How about procrastination? I’ve been wanting to propose that as a mental defect, but I keep putting it off!


38 posted on 02/13/2012 7:09:45 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: goodwithagun

There are already several drugs that help: vodka, gin, whiskey.


39 posted on 02/13/2012 7:30:41 AM PST by altura
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To: altura

Do you have feelings of inadaquecy, do you suffer from shyness? Do you sometimes wish you were more assertive, if you answered yes to any of these questions, ask your doctor or pharmacist about Tequila. Tequila is the safe natural way to feel more confident about yourself and your actions. Tequila can help ease you out of your shyness and let the world know you are ready and willing to do just about anything. You’ll notice the benefits of tequila almost immediately and with a regimen of regular doses, you can overcome any obstacles that prevent you from living the life you want to live. Shyness and awkwardness will be a thing of the past. Stop hiding and start living with Tequila.

Tequila may not be for everyone.

Women who are nursing or pregnant should not use Tequila however women who wish to nurse or become pregnant should try it.

Side effects include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, incarceration, dancing like a retard, thinking you are whispering when you are speaking loudly, delusions of appearing more attractive to the opposite sex, loss of clothing.

Etc, etc.


40 posted on 02/13/2012 7:45:20 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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41 posted on 02/13/2012 8:57:45 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: 21twelve

Oh oh. Am I ... mental then?


42 posted on 02/13/2012 12:03:17 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: Olog-hai

” common behavioral traits are likely to be listed as a mental illness, it was reported.”

Demonize morality while normalizing homosexuality. OK, got it....


43 posted on 02/13/2012 1:25:37 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: trailhkr1

” I knew a girl in college with a bad case of shyness “

So, how long has she been your wife? ;-)


44 posted on 02/13/2012 1:38:58 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Olog-hai

It already is and has been for decades in an extreme form. Schizoid Personality Disorder. I know all about it.


45 posted on 02/13/2012 1:43:20 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: CSM
So, how long has she been your wife? ;-)

I just knew of her. Not real close friends with her.

46 posted on 02/13/2012 1:50:20 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Can you show me where I said psychiatry was useless?


47 posted on 02/13/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: trailhkr1

From what I hear of many a husband, they dream of having a spouse like that. I figured you might have snapped her up!

;-)


48 posted on 02/13/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
From what I hear of many a husband, they dream of having a spouse like that. I figured you might have snapped her up!

Wow, I just figured out the inside joke. Been a long day.

49 posted on 02/13/2012 1:56:47 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

To stick with the theme of the thread, have a shot of Tequila on me!

Have a good evening FRiend.


50 posted on 02/13/2012 2:01:59 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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