Posted on 02/14/2012 9:00:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
‘Regarding responsibility - you are correct. If you have no sense of self-worth, pride and integrity - you have no compuncture to take responibility for yourself. This is, indeed, a huge failing of their parents. Biblically, this is what I think is meant by the phrase “The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon his chldren”.’
This era is defined by having no self-worth, integrity and no compuncture to take responsibility for yourself. Just take a look at who our culture idolizes(the usual Hollyweird folks) and who this age group elected to the White House. Didn’t Obama and Nancy Pelosi pass legislation that children could stay on their parents’ insurance till they were 26?
BS. A more educated person needs probably LESS time for training. Offer them the job at the salary specified. If they take it then you have a better employee that is more productive.
Your small minded thinking hides the fact if you were to get a bright educated person they can probably do your loser job better than you. It's a threat, the law of the jungle, I get it.
Actually, I think the practice as you describe should be illegal.
Benefits? This is a new phenomenon.
Young people should look for any job that pays money and buy basic insurance on the private market.
A low-deductable plan to cover accidents can cost as little as $60 per month for a young person.
True, this is not our parents America. 1950’s America was the exception, not the rule. But the entitlement attitude of the young is not helping.
Congratulations—it sounds like you and your daughter have done a nice job.
No, she was preparing to go in about a month. What did happen, though, was that the majority of people that had signed up to teach, decided not to go. The company my daughter works for called her and asked if she was still interested. She said yes, but most said no.
As a result, she is traveling from school to school a lot. The travel time she does is really hard on her. She had wanted to really work on her Japanese and had found a teacher. But, her schedule changes every two weeks so it is very difficult for her to keep up with classes. Also, I had thought that there would be other people, probably around her age, for her to hang out with and go do things together. However, there aren't enough young people, so one person is traveling between schools and they may be the only teacher in that area. Occasionally, when she travels to go sight-seeing or something like that, she will see a Westerner and they always call to one another. One of the favorite topics seems to be the funny signs in "Engrish". The words are english, but, they are put in a fashion that is sometimes very difficult to understand. There seem to be quite a few Aussies over there.
We don’t have no jobs problem....it’s 8.somethign and decreasing by the minute! We’re all fine here, at least until November. Move along.
Sorry to hear your children are without gainful jobs. However, some part of me wishes that I had a house big enough to hold all my children and grandkids. I’d especially love to counteract the grand girls’ education indoctrination on a daily basis.
Do you mean the practice of hiring the person that I think we be of most value to me? You would like to make that illegal?
I think you are in the wrong place. DU is down the hall, buddy.
Even without the draft parent pushed responsibility on kids. They didn’t let their 18 year-olds sit around the house, they had get a job or go to college, maybe both, and if they were going to stay with M&P they had to contribute in someway. The current generation isn’t being pushed out by parent or pulled out by draft. So they stay home.
These kids were bums before the economy turned south. They don’t want jobs, they aren’t looking for jobs, so the job market doesn’t really impact them. The most it does is give them an excuse during the occasional parental tongue-lashing. And it’s not like they’d be qualified for anything but a menial job, they haven’t gone to any kind of schooling, they’ve developed no skills outside of Playstation. Part of having no responsibility means having no reason to become qualified for a job.
I think it’s parents losing sight of the goal of child-rearing. Somewhere along the lines they forgot the idea is to create a functioning adult. Started treating it more like raising a pet, your goal with a pet is largely to avoid property destruction, so long as they aren’t peeing on the couch you like your pets as is, you don’t expect them to develop independence. That seems to be what’s happened to the kids, they don’t pee on the couch.
Paying them what they’re worth is illegal.
Paying their sustenance is compulsory.
Having enjoyed sufficient wealth to acquire spacious accommodations, and to continue feeding the offspring, you consent to the arrangement.
The military knows the same thing, that is why they need some category IVs, they know that placing category 1s into those less demanding, repetitious, boring positions does not work out.
The draft was definitely a big focus of males in their late teens, it forced them to confront adulthood issues, patriotism, and their internal feelings about military service and the role of service to their fellow man and how it fit into their own personal philosophical outlook, the right and wrong of killing, and much more.
Your missing the point: the overqualified tend to leave ASAP.
Training people does take time & money, even if shortened by talent & education. Say training time is cut by 50% by hiring the overqualified, and productivity is greater than usual; 6 months later he finds a more suitable occupation & salary, leaves on a moment’s notice (the conventional 2 weeks would cost him hundreds of $$$), you’ve got nobody doing the job now, and hiring the next warm body takes an optimistic 100% of the usual training time - now you’ve spent half-again longer training someone (50+100%), suffered extra downtime, and otherwise went thru a whole lot more hassle than if you’d hired the just-qualified in the first place.
If the person is overqualified for the job then they’re probably also overqualified for the salary. So they might take the job because they need it, but they won’t stop looking for other employment. So yeah they might be totally awesome for the time you have them, but that time is going to be short, and then you’re right back in the boat you were in. Smart hirers are looking for employees that will be around a while, years. If you hire the overqualified you’ll get months, meanwhile that less qualified but still good guy that would have spent the next decade with you got hired by your competitor where he’ll be working against you for the next decade.
When I was young I thought like you, didn’t believe in the concept of overqualified. Then I moved up to the point in life where you get to hire people. That’s when I learned the truth. Overqualified candidates are real, and they really shouldn’t be hired.
I had a friends kid from Idaho show up in here in Reno on January 1. He is 21, and showed up with little more than the clothes on his back. He wanted to start an apprenticeship as an electrician. By January 4th, he had lined up his first job working at a mine in central Nevada. Since then, he has already taken his aptitude test for apprenticeship, already taken MSHA and OSHA training. Is setting up welding training. And has gotten very high praise from his boss. He gets things done, doesn’t complain, and always keeps busy. He is one of just a few people that will be retained by the mine, as they are laying off most of the electrical contractors out there for being subpar. He is already doing some things that he is technically not allowed to do yet (though under supervision).
So it took a 21 year old exactly 4 days to begin a career in the highest unemployment state in the country.
That's a pretty broad brush you go there, pardner. May be the case in a large number of cases, but there are also plenty of cases where people just can't catch a break.
Depends on the kids. If they’ve been irresponsible since childhood, sell the house and buy a one bedroom condo when the last one leaves for college or his own apartment.
“Sorry, no room!”
Like all things in a nation of 311 million there will be exceptions to the rule. But by and large the failure to launch generation failed to launch 10 years ago, the economy has had no impact on their general lack of ambition. Yeah some folks can’t catch a break, but the ones like my nephew-in-law have their hands in their pockets they don’t WANT to catch a break.
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