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Atheist Couple Sues to Remove 'Under God' From Pledge of Allegiance
cbs47 ^ | 2-14-12 | cakid1

Posted on 02/14/2012 8:13:53 PM PST by cakid1

In Massachusetts Superior Court a lawsuit has been filed by an atheist couple.

They claim their children "are being discriminated against because the Pledge of Allegiance."

The Pledge is said in school.. in the classroom.

The couple is upset about the phrase "under God."

According to The Christian Post..

"The daily recitation in public schools of a pledge declaring that the nation is 'under God' is discriminatory toward atheists and humanists," David Niose, president of the American Humanist Association and lead attorney for the plaintiffs in the case, stated.


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KEYWORDS: pledge; undergod

1 posted on 02/14/2012 8:13:56 PM PST by cakid1
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To: cakid1

We’d better keep it there, or the Muslims will kick our butts.


2 posted on 02/14/2012 8:16:30 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: cakid1

Where’s the picture of the guy banging his forehead, saying, “aww, not this s*** again”???

If they are so frickin offended, they can take their kids out of the school.

Liberals tell us that we can homeschool or take our kids out of school if we don’t like things such as sex education curricula. So why can’t we tell these parents, you don’t like it, take your kids out of the school???? Does it work both ways?????


3 posted on 02/14/2012 8:17:25 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: cakid1
I thought this was already soundly settled in a Supreme Court decision.

Or do liberals get an unlimited number of do-overs?

4 posted on 02/14/2012 8:17:39 PM PST by fwdude
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To: cakid1

Such superstitious people. Someone should tell them WORD MAGIC DOESN’T EXIST. Their kids can hear “GOD” and their schmengies won’t fall off.


5 posted on 02/14/2012 8:17:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cakid1

Are you being “discriminated against” because gravity makes your fat sag?
Who you gonna sue about that?

Sorry dears, the courts can’t shield you from reality.


6 posted on 02/14/2012 8:19:33 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: cakid1

My guard goes up when somebody feels it is important for me to believe the same way they do.


7 posted on 02/14/2012 8:22:50 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: cakid1
It's almost as though the whinyass atheists have a contest going to see who can bull**** some judge first.

The couple is upset about the phrase "under God."

Maybe they could just go throw their goatsmellin' @$$e$ off of a bridge somewhere and brighten everybody's day.

8 posted on 02/14/2012 8:23:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Who will subsidize BIG government when "the rich" are all taxed out?)
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To: fwdude

liberals get to do this until they win,

then its a settled issue


9 posted on 02/14/2012 8:25:57 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cakid1

I thought this was settled under Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow case.


10 posted on 02/14/2012 8:26:18 PM PST by U-238
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To: cakid1

These people need to get a life. If this is so unendurable, they can withdraw the kid from public school. They can also have him not say “under God”. But it’s no great imposition to have to listen to those two words spoken every once in awhile. He’ll hear much worse invocations of the Deity on the playground.


11 posted on 02/14/2012 8:27:18 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: cakid1
The daily recitation in public schools of a pledge declaring that the nation is 'under God...

This is certainly not forcing their kids to change their beliefs about anything...they can still choose to just not believe in God.

If these parents are successful(doubtful)then a lawsuit should be immediately filed for discriminating against those kids who do believe the nation is "under God"

12 posted on 02/14/2012 8:27:33 PM PST by Mopp4
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To: GeronL
liberals get to do this until they win, then its a settled issue

yes, then it somehow becomes a "civil right."

13 posted on 02/14/2012 8:31:30 PM PST by fwdude
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To: cakid1

Red Skelton and the pledge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPbIls0iOnI&feature=fvst

“Wouldn’t it be a pity if someone sad that was a prayer and was eliminated from schools too.”


14 posted on 02/14/2012 8:31:41 PM PST by matt04
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To: cakid1
Well the little nose-miners don't have to say the pledge at all...just ask obama:
Contempt


What is it with atheists getting in a snit because everyone doesn't agree with them? If the don't want to believe in anything, fine, just leave me and my beliefs ALONE...it's none of their business.
15 posted on 02/14/2012 8:32:58 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: cakid1
These parents just put a SCARLET letter on their child. Now when they go to school all the other kids will mock and humiliate them. Kinda sad for those innocent children with such ignorant bad parents.
16 posted on 02/14/2012 8:34:17 PM PST by annieokie
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To: fwdude

Yes, the liberals get an unlimited number of do-overs in lawsuits on behalf of liberal causes.

There are other examples. The Mt. Soledad cross in San Diego has been the subject of numerous lawsuits for over 20 years now. These lawsuits have been filed in both federal and state courts. Every time we think that the case is settled, another lawsuit comes up. The goal of the atheists is to tear down the cross. They haven’t succeed yet, but are still trying.

Another good example is the homosexual marriage case in California. After Proposition 8 passed, the gay activists went back to the state Supreme Court. The California Supreme Court upheld the right of the people of California to define marriage, even though it had the effect of overturning their own ruling for same-sex marriage.

So what did the activists do? They filed suit in federal court after they lost in state court. And the 9th Circuit has enough liberal judges that they have won the early rounds of their federal lawsuit over homosexual marriage in California.

So yes, the liberals go judge shopping or court shopping, or if they lose in state court they go to federal court. Or vice versa.

Wealthy liberals make large donations to groups such as the ACLU and Lambda Legal, so they can file these perpetual lawsuits.


17 posted on 02/14/2012 8:34:24 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: U-238

I forgot to mention that the Court did not consider the constitutional question raised by the case


18 posted on 02/14/2012 8:34:39 PM PST by U-238
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To: cakid1

Now why is it that they “have standing” to sue about anything they don’t like, but conservatives never seem to have standing?


19 posted on 02/14/2012 8:36:37 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: cakid1

“The daily recitation in public schools of a pledge declaring that the nation is ‘under God’ is discriminatory toward atheists and humanists”...

To bad, who cares about you? Majority rules. Deal with it!


20 posted on 02/14/2012 8:42:29 PM PST by Route395
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To: cakid1

We have a right to acknowledge God whether or not they want to. They don’t have to say it but they can’t stop us from saying it. Their “right” ends where my right begins. And I have the freedom to acknowledge my creator and I have free speech rights to state it.


21 posted on 02/14/2012 8:57:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: gorush

Very well said!


22 posted on 02/14/2012 8:59:33 PM PST by justkillingtime
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To: cakid1

I read that Madelin Murray O’Hare did that way back, or tried to, or was that for something else?


23 posted on 02/14/2012 9:00:21 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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Atheists can go back into the closet. Along with their fellow humanists. I don't see why they have so much faith in humans, anyway. Another Light That Failed.

24 posted on 02/14/2012 9:07:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: cakid1

Aw jeez, here we go again.


25 posted on 02/14/2012 9:08:30 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: cakid1

“The daily recitation in public schools of a pledge declaring that the nation is ‘under God’ is discriminatory toward atheists and humanists,”

No it is not.
You are free to believe you are not going to hell. At least until your arrival that is.........


26 posted on 02/14/2012 9:19:12 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: fwdude

bump


27 posted on 02/14/2012 9:19:18 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Here ya go...

28 posted on 02/14/2012 9:24:52 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
...And I'll throw in a


for good measure!
29 posted on 02/14/2012 9:26:38 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: cakid1

Lordy, I get tired of these people. How many times can they get offended before they figure out that there is no Constitutional right to not be offended?


30 posted on 02/14/2012 9:48:13 PM PST by Nifster
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To: cakid1

How about the argument they love to toss out when we object to their attempts to strip God from western civilization, “How does it affect you? If you don’t like it, just ignore it.” What? They’re hypocrites? Oh, never mind.


31 posted on 02/14/2012 10:02:13 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: GeronL

Yep. If at first they don’t succeed, they’ll try and try again until they win. Once they win, the issue is then final, and none of those ignorant Christians better bring it up.


32 posted on 02/14/2012 10:05:21 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: cakid1

Massachusetts. What a surprise...................../s


33 posted on 02/14/2012 10:36:07 PM PST by bramps (Cama, Cama, Cama Chameleon.)
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To: cakid1

34 posted on 02/15/2012 2:43:13 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I believe this is what you are looking for:

Aw Jeez

35 posted on 02/15/2012 2:47:45 AM PST by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: gorush

and your guard should go up, history has many lessons of what happens when people want us to believe like them.


36 posted on 02/15/2012 4:14:41 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: cakid1

personally, I think we should remove “with Liberty”


37 posted on 02/15/2012 4:22:49 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: fwdude

THey just keep hammering and hammering until cracks appear and then keep hammering for decades until finally the foundation of the nation collapses.


38 posted on 02/15/2012 5:31:12 AM PST by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: hattend
THey just keep hammering and hammering until cracks appear and then keep hammering for decades until finally the foundation of the nation collapses.

Which is why we should do the same - relentlessly. None of this mere "defending marriage" - we should be re-criminalizing sodomy and homosexual behavior in all its forms. We should be outlawing the perverse pornography and gutter language that permeates our culture. we should make divorce again a rare event by getting rid of the "no fault" fiasco and severely tightening the restrictions on its allowance.

Until we are willing to push back, not just hold what little ground we have remaining, we have lost.

39 posted on 02/15/2012 5:40:26 AM PST by fwdude
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To: SkyDancer

Mad Madelyn sued NASA for the Apollo 8 crew’s reading from the Bible while circling the Moon in 1968. She claimed, among other things, that it was mixing government and religion. The crew read from a religious book while aboard government funded and provided transportation. That case failed. She’s is now dead and the crew of Apollo 8 are all still very much alive. That’s got to mean something.


40 posted on 02/15/2012 6:44:30 AM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: NCC-1701

Thanks Enterprise! But I had thought there was something about schools she did too.


41 posted on 02/15/2012 7:03:04 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: SkyDancer

This is something pulled from a Wiki article about her:

“She is best known for the Murray v. Curlett lawsuit, which led to a landmark Supreme Court ruling ending official Bible-reading in American public schools in 1963. Officially-sponsored prayer in schools had been ended a year earlier by the Supreme Court in Engel v. Vitale. O’Hair later founded American Atheists and became so controversial that in 1964 Life magazine referred to her as “the most hated woman in America.”

Here’s a link about that court case on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abington_School_District_v._Schempp

That may be what you’re talking about.


42 posted on 02/15/2012 7:15:26 AM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: NCC-1701

Yep, that was it. In remembering reading about her when she said OMG! when the pope was shot back when.


43 posted on 02/15/2012 7:44:54 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: cakid1

If a conservative is an unbeliever, he doesn’t pray or attend church. If a liberal is an unbeliever he wants all mention of God removed from public life.


44 posted on 02/15/2012 9:31:38 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: eccentric
"personally, I think we should remove “with Liberty”

Now I am personally offended

45 posted on 02/15/2012 9:39:15 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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