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Former military brass ‘shocked,’ ‘angered’ over USS Gabrielle Giffords
The Daily Caller ^ | 02/14/2012 | Caroline May

Posted on 02/15/2012 8:47:49 AM PST by servo1969

Retired Rear Admiral George Worthington, former commander of the Naval Special Warfare Command, told The Daily Caller that there are many people more worthy of a ship bearing their name.

“Here is the issue. There are a lot of dead Marines out there whose names could go on anything that appears to be an amphibious ship,” he said, explaining that a past recipient of the Medal of Honor, Dakota Meyer, might be a good candidate.

Worthington added his email “inbox” has been filled with messages from military friends who are “shocked and angered” by the decision.

“We think fallen Marines and perhaps supporting sailors should go on fantails before random victims,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: gabrielle; gabriellegiffords; giffords; military; obamunism; raymabus; uss; worthington
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To: Charles Martel

I said this a few days ago on a thread about this issue, I think it bears repeating. If everyone knew what a piece of crap the Independence is, they may pity the congresswoman. This class of ships is waaaay over budget and thus far, severely under-performing.


51 posted on 02/15/2012 9:53:24 AM PST by orlop9
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To: servo1969

So, using Giffords’ name must mean all the ones below are taken?

Belleau Wood
Guadelcanal
Iwo Jima
Kehe Sanh
Col. Henderson
John F. Mackie
USS Galena
Sgt. John Quick
Gen’l Vandegrift
Montford Point
Col M A Edson
Lt Baldomero Lopez
Col L B Puller
Pfc James Anderson Jr

???????


52 posted on 02/15/2012 9:54:04 AM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: servo1969

Forget about Gabby or whatever her name is simmply because she forgot to duck she is entitled to have a ship name after her. This is the real woman who deserve to have a ship name after her:

Army Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa
Died March 23, 2003 Serving During Operation Iraqi Freedom

The first Native American female to died if you all recall.
USS PIESTEWA =)

Pfc. Lori Piestewa was the daughter of a Vietnam veteran and the granddaughter of a World War I veteran. She was a source of pride for Tuba City, Ariz., a town of 8,200 people on the Navajo Reservation but close to Hopi land.


53 posted on 02/15/2012 9:54:23 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: rocksblues

That ship’s mission is to act French by raising the white flag at the beginning of any conflict!


54 posted on 02/15/2012 9:54:54 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NoPinkos
but a ship bearing Clinton's name shouldn't be hauling garbage....

That one was funny 40+ years ago when Korax said it ...

and it just never gets old.

55 posted on 02/15/2012 9:57:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Yes..I remember Squaw Peak fondly.


56 posted on 02/15/2012 10:05:01 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: servo1969

Actually isn’t it the USS Saint Gabrielle Giffords?


57 posted on 02/15/2012 10:07:04 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Nik Naym
Actually, she was ON THE JOB when she was shot. The vast majority of her kind weren't working that day.

I think that's commendable and something to be emulated. Get them out of their offices into the open where they can be seen.

We have named ships for less, and we name ships after living people.

TRY: >http://www.public.navy.mil/airfor/cvn77/Pages/USS%20GEORGE%20H.W.%20BUSH%20(CVN%2077).aspx

58 posted on 02/15/2012 10:08:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: servo1969
This is a no win situation. If you are against naming the ship after Giffords, which isn't even her married name BTW, you must be a Hater.

Since most people don't pay attention, this too will be just another accommodation to the Left. To a Liberal, tradition is something to be scorned, not respected.

59 posted on 02/15/2012 10:12:00 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: skeeter

Shot but didn’t die?


60 posted on 02/15/2012 10:13:08 AM PST by fml
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To: servo1969
This is the list of U.S. Naval warships named for a woman that are in active service (there are a few other ships named for women that are used for supply replenishment, oceangraphic research, etc; and the USS Roosevelt is named for both Franklin Delano and Eleanor Roosevelt):

USS Hopper (DDG-70), 1996. Built and commissioned at Bath Iron Works in Bath, Maine, the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer is named for RDML Grace Murray Hopper, a computer technology pioneer who led the Navy into the digital age.

That's it - ONE. UNO. The only.

Hopper was, among other accomplishments, the builder of the first "compiler" (a program to translate a higher-level language to binary machine-code, immensely simplifying the task of programming) and the "mother" of the COBOL computer language (based primarily on the FLOW-MATIC language developed under her direction). COBOL is still widely used in business applications (and, I would guess, still used by the Navy is certain areas like logistics and personnel).

While it is wrong to attribute COBOL solely to Hopper, she had an enormous influence on it (since FLOW-MATIC was, essentially, the only WORKING computer language that formed a basis for COBOL.) And the creation of COBOL is one of the landmarks of technology in the 20th century.

To Hopper we now add: USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10) Littoral Combat Ship named for Retired Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

Giffords is, in many ways, an admirable woman. Grace Hopper is one of the TITANS in the history of the Navy. There is simply no comparison.

61 posted on 02/15/2012 10:14:38 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: Charles Martel

I’ll tell you what, Boxcar Willie has more of a claim to having a ship named after him than Gabby Giffords. He was a retired Air Force pilot who was a Korean War veteran. He at least has done enough (in my book) to have an overpass named after him.


62 posted on 02/15/2012 10:25:36 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: muawiyah
"We have named ships for less, and we name ships after living people."

Are you saying that George H.W. Bush did not deserve having a ship named after him? Aside from being President, he was a WWII naval pilot. Shot down twice I believe. Perhaps that does not rise to the level of having a ship named after someone, but it's a lot farther up the ladder than Gabby Giffords having one named after her. If she hadn't gotten shot, would anyone outside of her district even know who she is?
63 posted on 02/15/2012 10:30:13 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
So, he lost a couple of planes. Kennedy lost a boat. Both were Presidents.

Kennedy cut taxes ~ Hoorah!.

Bush said "Read my hips" and raised taxes ~ Booh!

64 posted on 02/15/2012 10:37:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: servo1969
this is b/s.... just another distraction from the 'rats
...gg husband should "decline" the offer. :-\

65 posted on 02/15/2012 10:39:24 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (remaining) Liberals :^)
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To: In Maryland
Giffords was out in the open, on the job, meeting with constituents ~ of both parties too if the dead are any indication.

Certainly none of that is heroic work ~ but it is definitely getting harder and harder to find a Congress-critter anywhere but behind a locked door, or in hollering distance of the guards. I know my Congress-critter Rep. Cannoli has had peaceful, well meaning, kind and delightful visiting constituents ARRESTED!!!! And in the US Capitol Building.

I'd like to encourage better behavior by the members of Congress, particularly the Democrats.

We shouldn't need two shootings to get their attention I hope!

66 posted on 02/15/2012 10:42:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The USS Bill Clinton: hardly ever sets sail, spends most of its time in "friendly ports"

CC

67 posted on 02/15/2012 10:43:34 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: servo1969
I wonder what the USS Obama and the Uss Jimmy Carter would be?

I think both would have as much luck as the TITANIC.

68 posted on 02/15/2012 10:48:13 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: NoPinkos; Old Teufel Hunden
aka "Red Light Cruise Ship"

"The Love boat"

"The Cohiba"

"The Battlin' Lewinsky" ,though that last one might begin a few brawls in home post.

69 posted on 02/15/2012 10:54:19 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: muawiyah
"So, he lost a couple of planes."

I looked it up. He flew 58 combat missions, won a distinguished flying cross and three air medals. Not something to pooh, pooh. Was it worthy of having an aircraft carrier named after him? Maybe not, but a helluva lot more worthy than having Gabby Giffords have a boat named after her. And so they should not be in the same sentence together. Which was my point to you in the first place.
70 posted on 02/15/2012 11:12:21 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: servo1969

We have become idiotic enough to name the next warship the “Whitney Houston”.


71 posted on 02/15/2012 11:12:34 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I used pappy Bush as an example of an unpopular politician WHO IS STILL ALIVE.

He wasn't as heroic as my uncle in WWII ~ who was a Ranger, on the ground ~ at Oran, at Anzio, at various other places.

So much for Bush.

72 posted on 02/15/2012 11:24:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Your uncle wasn’t the President of the United States, unpopular or not. Let me know when Giffords serves in the military and becomes president of the US.


73 posted on 02/15/2012 11:33:51 AM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: beandog
She was a member of Congress shot down on the job!

Apparently it was a Democrat engineered assassination attempt on a Republican judge, but she got hit too.

They would say "She was expendable", just like in the John Ford film about Squadron 3.

Frankly, all I ask is that I don't get hurt so bad anybody feels the need to name something after me. My days of saving lives are probably long gone now so nothing heroic. But seriously, you just never see these Congress-critters out in public like that ~ probably because the risk of getting shot is just too high ~ but there you have it.

74 posted on 02/15/2012 11:41:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: rocksblues

He’ll have wind farms named after him.


75 posted on 02/15/2012 12:00:12 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: submarinerswife
Her Husband is a Naval Officer!!

Correction: Her Husband is a retired Naval Officer!!

76 posted on 02/15/2012 12:20:41 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: servo1969

Coming soon. The Barny Frank Tunnel


77 posted on 02/15/2012 12:22:08 PM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: listenhillary
Coming soon. The Barny Frank Tunnel


78 posted on 02/15/2012 12:23:29 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Shot down twice I believe.

Once

79 posted on 02/15/2012 12:24:36 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

100th anniversary of Marine Corps aviation this year. You were the first A.A. Happy Birthday!


80 posted on 02/15/2012 12:30:27 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I guess happy anniversary is in order, not happy birthday...


81 posted on 02/15/2012 12:32:12 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: servo1969; All

I’m speechless. A minor miracle in itself IMO.


82 posted on 02/15/2012 4:19:25 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I’m fairly certain there’d be a mandate to have UN observers permanently onboard. And everybody gets their Shellback certificate as long as the ship came within 1000 nautical miles of crossing the equator because it will make everybody feel so much better about themselves.


83 posted on 02/15/2012 4:50:36 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

If Obama gets another term there won’t be any Navy ships by the end of it, so whatever they were named won’t matter much.


84 posted on 02/15/2012 5:13:23 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks servo1969.


85 posted on 02/15/2012 7:21:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: mass55th
so get shot but not killed by one of your crony idiot followers and you get to have a ship named after you....

meanwhile, a little girl is still dead, as well as 5 other unknown people....

86 posted on 02/15/2012 10:29:33 PM PST by cherry
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To: Lancey Howard

In case you missed this ping.


87 posted on 02/15/2012 10:32:20 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: mass55th

the military is certainly got tons of leftist jerks and all of you who think OUR military will protect us and defend the constitution better think again...


88 posted on 02/15/2012 10:33:19 PM PST by cherry
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Hey, I’m the one who’ll have to see it every day as I go to work. :P


89 posted on 02/15/2012 10:55:08 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Gene Eric

Thanks for the ping.

Yes, I did see this, but I guess I am finally getting jaded. NOTHING the corrupt, scumbag Ubama regime does surprises me anymore. I can hardly wait to see if that floating turd, the accidental president, Barack Hussein Ubama, gets flushed down the toilet of history in November. Like everybody else, I will be interested to see if, as I suspect, the parasites now outnumber the hosts in America and the Democrats have locked it down.

If America is over, I won’t get agita about it. I will simply go off grid and give the scumbags nothing. In fact, it is my belief that America is already over and I see no point in hanging onto the past. America had a great run. I’ll remember it fondly for what it was.

America is now little more than an open-borders land mass populated by cretins and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them in exchange for their votes. It is not an America worth defending anymore. That America no longer exists.

It appears the parasites outnumber the hosts now, and there’s no going back. The Democrats have won. Republican politicians are relegated strictly to big-mouthing about how they will do this and do that, but in the end they are nothing more than weak-kneed ankle-biters. Between the two parties the difference is merely a matter of how fast the swirling water takes America down the toilet, but the destination is the same regardless.

So my advice is for decent conservatives everywhere to throw some cold water in their faces, arm themselves to the teeth, and figure out how to shamelessly grab every last government dime they possibly can before the parasites gobble it all up. Every man for himself.

FRegards, and good luck,
LH


90 posted on 02/15/2012 11:26:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I hear ya’, it’s an embarrassingly bad situation. And as bad as it gets, I’ll never concede to the #s that raped the Country.


91 posted on 02/15/2012 11:47:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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