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Why Newt May Be More Unelectable Than Santorum
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| 02-18-2012
| OrangeHoof
Posted on 02/18/2012 12:25:54 PM PST by OrangeHoof
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To: cripplecreek
Stick With Rick
(Rick on a Stick)
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posted on
02/18/2012 12:59:04 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: South40
Really. Hunter had no traction and Thompson had no fire in the belly. We learned the hard way that both are fatal for a presidential candidate’s chances. Others might well have seen what we didn’t at the time.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:00:25 PM PST
by
dirtboy
To: OrangeHoof
14 in my family have decided on Santorum. They don’t trust the Newt.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:02:05 PM PST
by
dforest
To: OrangeHoof
I can answer that one.
Your average American would rather have an acknowledged, fallen sinner, a la Bill Clinton, than an uptight, preachy moralizer in chief, a la Jimmy Carter.
To: OrangeHoof
There are a lot of negatives for Newt. Liberals and non-thinkers will believe that he is a right wing extremist, because the media can make that case. He also has done a number of things to trouble conservatives. And there are those women problems, which will trouble women voters and the religious right, when they are reminded of them.
But I don’t think this is a good time for conservatives to be attacking Newt OR Rick. I’d like to see both of them stay in the race until we see what happens.
A few months ago, everyone thought that the others should drop out and make way for Cain. Where would we be now if that had happened? I assume that the motive of this thread is to remind the Newt supporters that they shouldn’t keep attacking, and even passing liberal lies about, Rick’s electability, because their guy is vulnerable to similar attacks.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:03:44 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: dirtboy
And that, in your mind, is reason to endorse a cross-dressing, pro-abortion liberal? If so I couldn’t disagree more.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:03:53 PM PST
by
South40
(Mitt is full of Shtt)
Comment #27 Removed by Moderator
To: OrangeHoof
The word "electable", in Republican terminology. has come to mean "RINO". "Electable" Republicans pander to the Left and reach across the aisle to the Democrats. "Unelectable" Republicans fight for what is right and stand on principle. Ask someone who uses the term "electable" to provide an example. They will name a Republican who has never been elected President and whose government experience has been marked by big government. They will cite Goldwater as an example of an "unelectable" Presidential candidate. You won't hear them talking about Reagan, since he was not an establishment Republican, yet he won the Presidency twice.
So when you hear the word "electable", think "loser".
To: South40
And that, in your mind, is reason to endorse a cross-dressing, pro-abortion liberal? If so I couldnt disagree more. As opposed to Mitt? Huck? RuPaul? The choices sucked. I didn't agree with the endorsement, but it wasn't like there was a clear conservative candidate with a chance in the field.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:07:13 PM PST
by
dirtboy
To: OrangeHoof
Most voters know who he is and their minds are made up. Evidence?
To: Irenic
“For me, if Gingrich quitsI no longer support any candidateI will only be voting against Obama.”
Which is how most people feel, and you know what that means? Whoever it is may get a vote but noooooo moola. Exactly what happened with McCain.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:10:35 PM PST
by
Toespi
To: cripplecreek
I can’t imagine someone who lived through the history making 1994 conservative revolution, forgetting that incredible national onslaught against it’s leader, Newt Gingrich, until Palin, we had never seen anything like it.
I still have boxes of publications and newspapers from the time, the rage from the left was terrifying, people died, were destroyed, the federal government was killing people and burning them out in the Midwest, and in what had previously been “flyover country”, the heartland.
The left was sending a message to middle America, that they were not outside the reach of Government and the new policies. Middle America was to be taught that their God, and guns, and tax complaints, and conservative rebellion would not be tolerated, the 1990s became a dark period of open war by the hard left as led by the Clintons, and the conservatives led by Newt Gingrich.
The media was as radical as it has ever been, and Newt as the opposition leader, was one of it’s biggest targets.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:11:51 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
To: cripplecreek
“Oh yes, poor downtrodden Newt.”
The problem with posting negatives about a candidate is that they are always in endless supply — for all candidates.
Newt’s record of achievement, for all his personal and political liabilities, blows his competitors’ achievements away.
Rick was just one of 100 senators. He often voted the right way but what are his biggest accomplishments and how do they stack up against Newt’s?
Rick sponsored a number of pro-life bills and was a leader in Congress for the fight for social issues. That’s good stuff and yes, I can vote for Santorum without holding my nose but how does that compare to:
Contract with America
Welfare Reform Act
Paying down the national debt by $400 billion
First tax cut in 16 years
Orchestrating the first Republican takeover of the House in 40 years
All done under a Democratic President.
That’s far more impressive in my opinion. Without going negative, what else has Santorum done that I am missing?
Convert me!
To: OrangeHoof
I would hate to live in a mindset in which the tainted media is guiding my thoughts. Newt/Palin (true refomers)
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:33:32 PM PST
by
Christie at the beach
(I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
To: OrangeHoof
I hope Obama doesn’t know who his rival is until fall. That will make him nuts.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:41:16 PM PST
by
ez
(When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
To: dirtboy
The choices sucked across the board in 2008.Some are saying the choices suck this year also. I'm beginning to sense a pattern forming here.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:45:27 PM PST
by
ez
(When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
To: ez
I think the problem is, the process as it currently works ensures that anyone qualified for the office is utterly unwilling to subject themselves to the process to win the office. That’s basically what happened with Fred, IMO.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:50:59 PM PST
by
dirtboy
To: cripplecreek
Unfavorable/favorable ratings don’t mean much. The Pope probably has a high favorable rating, but wouldn’t be elected president. And Dick Cheney never had a high favorable rating, but people were confident in his ability to lead the country if he had to. People may “like” someone but not think they’d make a good president. No doubt by the fall, most people will still like Obama. They aren’t suddenly going to be convinced he’s the spawn of Satan. We’re not running a campaign on likability, we’re running a campaign based on who would make a better president.
Besides, poll numbers now mean nothing with regards to a November election. Where where Obama’s, Rick’s, Mitt’s and Newt’s poll numbers back in May, 2011? That was 9 months ago, and the election is 9 months from today. Why don’t you stop reporting the poll numbers from today and go back and report the May, 2011 numbers, since by your logic, the polls today must be exactly where they were 9 months ago.
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posted on
02/18/2012 1:54:38 PM PST
by
JediJones
(Just say NO to the MittRick system! Disenfranchise the establishment!)
To: FerociousRabbit
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posted on
02/18/2012 2:01:26 PM PST
by
Patton@Bastogne
(Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
To: Cicero
I assume that the motive of this thread is to remind the Newt supporters that they shouldnt keep attacking, and even passing liberal lies about, Ricks electability, because their guy is vulnerable to similar attacks. My motive is to question why Newt supporters are so certain that Santorum can't be elected and their man can when the numbers would appear to be just the opposite. To beat Obama, at the very least, Newt would need to drop his negatives down to 45%. Perhaps he can do that but there's very little evidence that he can. He's only beaten Romney one time so far while Santorum has beaten Romney four times and is poised to do it again in Michigan.
I simply don't understand the venom thrown at Santorum when he is catching the party's attention while Newt appears to be fading.
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posted on
02/18/2012 2:04:46 PM PST
by
OrangeHoof
(Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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