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Levin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, others to leave a Legacy of COWARDICE
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Posted on 02/19/2012 3:57:01 AM PST by Chance Hart

First off, I am a conservative and have spent countless hours listening to and reading the books of all these men. Reading Levin's Liberty and Tyranny was compelling, as were many of the publications of these Patriots. With the VAST amount of Constitutional research accumulated in order to write these best sellers, there is and has always has been one important fact known to ALL these men to be a Constitutional FACT missing. That non negotiable FACT is that according to the Constitution, Barack Hussein Obama is NOT eligible to be placed on the ballot, let alone occupy his present position as President of the United States of America! Obama himself touts the fact that his father was a British Subject at the time of his “BHO 2’s” birth, making him at the very least a duel citizen and not eligible to hold the office as president. Furthermore, Daddy was NEVER a citizen of the United States, again making Jr. ineligible with that fact alone. None of these men (as far as I know) served in the military for whatever reason and I think there may be some suppressed guilt because of that when I hear their accolades regarding current and former Men of Honor. As they refer to many of their callers and guests as “Brother”, they at the same time have never felt compelled to commit the heroic act of jumping on a Firecracker, let alone a Grenade to help save their “Brothers” and in the end help save this Nation. Levin is the one that has disappointed me the most when I heard him disenfranchise many of his loyal listeners on Jan 19th, 2010 (may have been the 20th) by referring to those that even questioned the eligibility issue as (paraphrasing) ignorant and foolish. He followed that comment by saying that Obama was of course eligible to be President. He, in my opinion is an expert on the Constitution and knows full well that his statement was an out and out lie. When the truth finally reveals itself, I can almost hear the excuses from these Less than Honorable radio and TV Patriots now – 1. I was given strict orders from station bosses not to bring up or allow discussion on the eligibility issue and to refer to those that do bring it up as ignorant Birthers. 2. Yes, I of course knew the simple truth, but decided it was the wrong approach to be honest when the proper way to handle this was at the Ballot Box. 3. Book sales were BOOMING and I was too GUTLESS to show the Courage that I ask my listeners to display on a daily basis. 4. There are a few in the business that are standing their ground on this issue and Liberals are calling them names. Sticks and Stones will break my Bones and even Words would really hurt me because I AM A COWARD! By the way, there are thousands of these Cowards walking the halls of Congress and other places that have at least to this point failed to MAN UP. All this makes me admire all the more the few that in their heart really do trust God Almighty and FEAR NO EVIL.


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First off, I am a conservative and have spent countless hours listening to and reading the books of all these men. Reading Levin's Liberty and Tyranny was compelling, as were many of the publications of these Patriots. With the VAST amount of Constitutional research accumulated in order to write these best sellers, there is and has always has been one important fact known to ALL these men to be a Constitutional FACT missing. That non negotiable FACT is that according to the Constitution, Barack Hussein Obama is NOT eligible to be placed on the ballot, let alone occupy his present position as President of the United States of America! Obama himself touts the fact that his father was a British Subject at the time of his “BHO 2’s” birth, making him at the very least a duel citizen and not eligible to hold the office as president. Furthermore, Daddy was NEVER a citizen of the United States, again making Jr. ineligible with that fact alone. None of these men (as far as I know) served in the military for whatever reason and I think there may be some suppressed guilt because of that when I hear their accolades regarding current and former Men of Honor. As they refer to many of their callers and guests as “Brother”, they at the same time have never felt compelled to commit the heroic act of jumping on a Firecracker, let alone a Grenade to help save their “Brothers” and in the end help save this Nation. Levin is the one that has disappointed me the most when I heard him disenfranchise many of his loyal listeners on Jan 19th, 2010 (may have been the 20th) by referring to those that even questioned the eligibility issue as (paraphrasing) ignorant and foolish. He followed that comment by saying that Obama was of course eligible to be President. He, in my opinion is an expert on the Constitution and knows full well that his statement was an out and out lie. When the truth finally reveals itself, I can almost hear the excuses from these Less than Honorable radio and TV Patriots now – 1. I was given strict orders from station bosses not to bring up or allow discussion on the eligibility issue and to refer to those that do bring it up as ignorant Birthers. 2. Yes, I of course knew the simple truth, but decided it was the wrong approach to be honest when the proper way to handle this was at the Ballot Box. 3. Book sales were BOOMING and I was too GUTLESS to show the Courage that I ask my listeners to display on a daily basis. 4. There are a few in the business that are standing their ground on this issue and Liberals are calling them names. Sticks and Stones will break my Bones and even Words would really hurt me because I AM A COWARD! By the way, there are thousands of these Cowards walking the halls of Congress and other places that have at least to this point failed to MAN UP. All this makes me admire all the more the few that in their heart really do trust God Almighty and FEAR NO EVIL.
1 posted on 02/19/2012 3:57:10 AM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart

Ouch, my eyes. Paragraphing? That said...I agree.


2 posted on 02/19/2012 4:00:24 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Chance Hart

Sorry about the Double Post of my thoughts. :-)


3 posted on 02/19/2012 4:00:35 AM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart
A good rant deserves some paragraphs:

First off, I am a conservative and have spent countless hours listening to and reading the books of all these men. Reading Levin's Liberty and Tyranny was compelling, as were many of the publications of these Patriots.

With the VAST amount of Constitutional research accumulated in order to write these best sellers, there is and has always has been one important fact known to ALL these men to be a Constitutional FACT missing. That non negotiable FACT is that according to the Constitution, Barack Hussein Obama is NOT eligible to be placed on the ballot, let alone occupy his present position as President of the United States of America! Obama himself touts the fact that his father was a British Subject at the time of his “BHO 2’s” birth, making him at the very least a duel citizen and not eligible to hold the office as president. Furthermore, Daddy was NEVER a citizen of the United States, again making Jr. ineligible with that fact alone.

None of these men (as far as I know) served in the military for whatever reason and I think there may be some suppressed guilt because of that when I hear their accolades regarding current and former Men of Honor. As they refer to many of their callers and guests as “Brother”, they at the same time have never felt compelled to commit the heroic act of jumping on a Firecracker, let alone a Grenade to help save their “Brothers” and in the end help save this Nation.

Levin is the one that has disappointed me the most when I heard him disenfranchise many of his loyal listeners on Jan 19th, 2010 (may have been the 20th) by referring to those that even questioned the eligibility issue as (paraphrasing) ignorant and foolish. He followed that comment by saying that Obama was of course eligible to be President. He, in my opinion is an expert on the Constitution and knows full well that his statement was an out and out lie.

When the truth finally reveals itself, I can almost hear the excuses from these Less than Honorable radio and TV Patriots now –

  1. I was given strict orders from station bosses not to bring up or allow discussion on the eligibility issue and to refer to those that do bring it up as ignorant Birthers.
  2. Yes, I of course knew the simple truth, but decided it was the wrong approach to be honest when the proper way to handle this was at the Ballot Box.
  3. Book sales were BOOMING and I was too GUTLESS to show the Courage that I ask my listeners to display on a daily basis.
  4. There are a few in the business that are standing their ground on this issue and Liberals are calling them names.

Sticks and Stones will break my Bones and even Words would really hurt me because I AM A COWARD! By the way, there are thousands of these Cowards walking the halls of Congress and other places that have at least to this point failed to MAN UP. All this makes me admire all the more the few that in their heart really do trust God Almighty and FEAR NO EVIL.

4 posted on 02/19/2012 4:05:41 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Chance Hart
Well, I was GONN'A say, "Who in hell are YOU?", until I read your post.

It goes beyond those you've cited and I believe the Lord is soon to return.

Anti-Christ will appear and most of the planet will agree with him.

Are we THAT far away?

I don't think so.

5 posted on 02/19/2012 4:06:34 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: central_va

Thank you central_va - Great to have others do the detail work for me. :-) Just kidding and I do appreciate it.


6 posted on 02/19/2012 4:13:01 AM PST by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart
Talk radio continues to do nothing more than placate conservatives and sooth us into in-action, It has been successful beyond the imagination of the most ardent leftist. These "anger pimps" make money and do nothing all the while making us FEEL like something good is happening. WHERE THE HELL WERE THEY DURING THE DADT DEBACLE? AWOL.
7 posted on 02/19/2012 4:13:19 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Chance Hart
Great to have others do the detail work for me.

Now I will have to bill you....

8 posted on 02/19/2012 4:14:11 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Chance Hart

Add Ann Coulter to the list.

If they dislike Obama and what he is doing to our country, I do not understand why they will not discuss and force a decision on eligibility.

They are not fighting for what is correct.

Are the controlled by their bosses?


9 posted on 02/19/2012 4:17:06 AM PST by Yooperman (Yooperman)
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To: Chance Hart

Agree here also.
What puzzles me is for all the research and evidence, these conservative icons so lightly dismiss the elegibility issue. Since 2008 I have never seen a point-by-point factual repudiation of the core “birther” arguements. The absence of intellectual curiosity is astounding.


10 posted on 02/19/2012 4:17:49 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: central_va
Limbaugh, Hannity, et al, that prattle endlessly on conservative talk radio got the memo early on ... ‘Don't Go There’ ... when it comes to Obummers eligibility. They're spineless ... that’s why they lost me as a listener.
11 posted on 02/19/2012 4:28:55 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: bossmechanic
"The absence of intellectual curiosity is astounding."

As stated at the onset, the key word here is indeed "cowardice." Specifically, on the part of national leadership. Someone should have challenged then Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi when she certified Obama's eligibility for his presidential bid. One simple question would have sufficed: "WTF! Certified based on what?" Cowardice allowed that opportunity to slip away. At this point in history, no one remains inside the D.C. beltway with the intestinal fortitude to pull the pin on that hand grenade. No one wants to go down in history as the one who triggered CW II.
12 posted on 02/19/2012 4:39:20 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Chance Hart

bottom line, the liberals control the media and the narrative. Our army and our power is small. We need to pick our battles. We can’t fight on every front


13 posted on 02/19/2012 4:41:59 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: hal ogen
If they chose to speak “freely” they would be out the door. You may have something with the birther issue because NO one wants to touch it. What is that telling us. The fact that as soon as it was brought up they wrote it off as “preposterous” “ridiculous” “silly” and made some of us who are questioning it along with everything else but not as rabied at this point feel as thought they are calling you an idiot for questioning it is suspicious in it self.
14 posted on 02/19/2012 4:47:30 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: BluH2o

Who did the memo come from, when and have you seen it? I am concerned about the eligibility issue; however some may have decided that it is not a winning one in this election (they may be right or wrong). Perhaps it is better reserved for the general election.

All of that said, why the insults and name calling and insults? Disagree, ok, but calling some of these guys, especially Levin, are anything but cowards.


15 posted on 02/19/2012 4:49:15 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Chance Hart
Sadly, you can add Hillsdale College to the list, along with Roger Hedgecock, who certainly knows the truth.

For whatever their reasons, what remains curious is that not one will address the issue directly. Levin mentions Marco Rubio whenever the need arises. The phrase attributed to several wise men is “Follow the money.” The money that put Obama where he is came from crooks, whether Goldman Sachs or the SEIU. But Levin appears to be playing by Alynsky rules, using ridicule and ad homonym attacks, but never addressing why Chief Justice Waite and Chief Justice Marshall and 14th Amendment Congressman, Judge Bingham, or Chief Justice Hughes don't understand the definition they all cited.

Of course all of our Senators signed SR511 in April 2008, all acknowledging that a natural born citizen is born to two citizen parents (though the testimony showed some sophistry by never citing Supreme Court cases and by citing the 1790 Nationality Act without noting that it was entirely replaced with no mention of natural born citizenship.

It is hard to call what is going on anything other than a coup. With the media, including Alwaleed’s Fox News and Wall Street Journal, most citizens imagine that there remain some "fair and balanced" checks and balances. The only remaining check is the people's House, and the first bunch elected in 2010 to replace some of the progressives have proved, about half of them, to have clay feet. Both parties are cooperating to avoid demonstrating any more clearly that we are no longer a nation of laws, even with Czars and an executive who simply ignores subpoenas. Our federal judges simply say whatever they please, ignoring evidenciary rules and citing irrelevant decisions from irrelevant courts, another state court in the case of the Muslim Georgia judge, Malihi.

It may be that the strategy is to destroy any trust remaining in our institutions so that it will be easier to replace them.

16 posted on 02/19/2012 4:50:59 AM PST by Spaulding
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To: 4rcane

“bottom line, the liberals control the media and the narrative. Our army and our power is small. We need to pick our battles. We can’t fight on every front”

You hit it.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the left (and media) have successfully portrayed anyone who goes after Obama on grounds of eligibility as a hopeless flake. The fact that no one has been able to get a court case to stick in any way certainly doesn’t help.

So Rush, Levin etc. won’t touch it because it would give their political enemies the ammunition they need to portray THEM are marginal kooks - thus undercutting whatever perfectly valid complaints they have against the Vacationer-in-Chief.


17 posted on 02/19/2012 4:52:20 AM PST by Pravious
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To: bossmechanic

The telling point for me is and always been that every one of the court challenges gets squished before anything actually gets anywhere.

Every. Single. Time.

OK. Right, in Georgia, the evidence was entered, but then the judge turned right around, ignored it, ruled completely in accordance with orders from wherever — and it all went away.

Now, when somebody (ANYBODY) spends that much time, effort, political clout and money to keep something secret, it means there is something that is so nasty hidden away they do not dare let it see the light of day.

You really can’t draw any other conclusion.

Obama and his minions are fighting this with every thing they have because they know if it ever breaks lose, he’s going down — and a lot of people are going to go down with him.


18 posted on 02/19/2012 5:03:56 AM PST by Ronin (VOTE NEWT! He's Not Romney! Huh? He did?? Scratch that! GO SANTORUM!!!)
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To: Chance Hart
I think Mark Levin, by far the smartest of the bunch, understands the constitutional crisis this would unleash. What becomes of the legislation signed by a sitting president proven to be ineligible to be in that seat?

We need to concentrate on sending him back to Chicago, or Hawaii or Kenya, or where ever. That should be our focus and our mission.

19 posted on 02/19/2012 5:04:36 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: NCLaw441

“All of that said, why the insults and name calling and insults? Disagree, ok, but calling some of these guys, especially Levin, are anything but cowards.”

Haven’t you heard? The only brave people we have left are the nameless posters on FR who constantly insult any public conservative with whom they disagree.


20 posted on 02/19/2012 5:05:23 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: Pravious

Put on your asbestos suit, you’re about to get flamed. No going off script when conservatives or those perceived to be conservatives are being attacked.

Last Friday, February 17, wife and I stopped at the State Capitol in Columbia, SC. Every year for the last several, a bus load of africanhyphenamericans have traveled from Detroit on the Martin Luther King post office holiday to protest a rebel flag displayed on the SC Capitol grounds and we wanted to see what all the hullabaloo was about. While there, we noticed and approached a small group of people holding Rebel and Gadsen flags. Turned out they were there to push Ron Paul and commemorate the February 17, 1865 burning of Columbia by the Yankees. To your point, there may be things that are, in their time, important and valid, but they will not be successfully fought under the present conditions.

Unfortunately, due to conditions that we all have had a hand in, there can be only one objective at the current time, and that is to make the foreign ursurper a one term president. If the left is successful in taking our shortcomings and using them against us to encourage the mushy middle, the paulbots, and the leftist trash to turn out for that vile “man”, there is no end to the damage a second term can do. Very little restrains his contemptible behavior now.

It is easy to cast blame, it is much more difficult to fix the current mess and requires unselfish focus on all our parts.


21 posted on 02/19/2012 5:12:21 AM PST by RushLake (Liberalism/Progressivism--Domestic terrorism financed by your tax dollars.)
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To: Chance Hart

The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.

I understand that birthers reject that idea. But at a bare minimum, all ought to be able to agree that honest people can look at the evidence and disagree with the idea that two citizen parents are required.

When all 50 states reject an argument, and every court rejects it, and no member of Congress accepts it, and no political party agrees with it...then maybe, just maybe, it is not ‘obviously’ a correct argument.

It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.


22 posted on 02/19/2012 5:15:07 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Right_in_Virginia

That’s been one of my points here.

We know that Obama isn’t eligible. By virtue of the fact that not one journalist, historian, author or anybody has written a detailed document explaining how Obama is eligible, we know he is not.

That battle has been won and given up by those who are defending Obama. They just resort to ridicule and sitting on their hands about it.

But that’s not going to remove Obama from office. To do that, we have to win the 2012 election based on his performance as president. That is the only way to win.

Once he is out of office, we can then work to restore this country.


23 posted on 02/19/2012 5:16:32 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Pravious
The fact that no one has been able to get a court case to stick in any way certainly doesn’t help.

I would love to see the Occupier-in-Chief be declared ineligible. So, why, after all this discussion, has it not happened? You can blame the bias in the media and fear of ridicule, but those aren't enough to explain it.

The fact that none of the court cases have gotten off the ground indicates to me that something is wrong with the argument.

Whenever I try to follow the argument I get lost in a pile of esoteric legalism and questionable interpretations of the Constitution, laws, and public policy. If the so-called "Birthers" cannot provide a simple, clear argument, it is no wonder popular talk show hosts won't touch it.

24 posted on 02/19/2012 5:23:17 AM PST by foxfield
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To: Spaulding
NBC is one of the dozens of Constitutional clauses that we the people have allowed our government to ignore. We can send only so many Sheila Jackson Lees, Chuckie Schumers, Maxine Waters, Steny Hoyers . . . etc before it leaves a mark on our liberties.

The CBO estimates the economy will shut down by 2027. Given their historic optimism, I give our republic less than eight years. A dictatorship is just around the corner, guaranteed.

25 posted on 02/19/2012 5:27:49 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Jonty30

I am willing to concede the Usurper’s first run. But he should be found ineligible for a second run. That would not cause a crises. We had 4 years to get him found ineligible for re-election and our talking hero’s did NOTHING!.


26 posted on 02/19/2012 5:34:53 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NCLaw441
... but calling some of these guys, especially Levin, are anything but cowards.

Levin is the biggest coward of them all. He purports himself to be the Great Defender of the Constitution, but drops the ball - big time.

Defends all in the Constitution but Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. How convenient.

He never would take calls on the issue, right from the get go. For him that part of the Constitution does not exist. He is a cafeteria Constitutionalist.

Constantly scrubs his website, Twitter and Facebook accounts of any and all complaints about his lack of involvement.

Levin is a tower of jelly. A major league phony.

27 posted on 02/19/2012 5:42:40 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: 4rcane

“We can’t fight on every front”

Just why the hell not?


28 posted on 02/19/2012 5:45:19 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Chance Hart

The excuses for these talking heads is always - they will be marginalized and can’t talk about other pressing issues.
They must ssee that they have the power if they UNITE against the lamestream media.
If all of them, including the GOP candidates, publicly challenge soetoro/obama’s elig., start a national dialogue, do some digging, they will get the people’s support and the dam will crack.
But not one of them dares to get started. They let the left frighten them into submission. They buy into the notion that this is a losing battle before they even start. They let the left define the battlefield!

Millions of us want to address this issue but we have no media championing us, not even the traditional ‘conservative’ talking heads!
If only they are brave enough to insist in upholding article 2 and lend us their voice and support, the battlefield will be redefined, there will be a more level playing field. The court of public opinions will be on our side once the truth is out! People power will trump corruption.

Or they are only there to profit on our miseries - they have no intention whatsoever of throwing away their golden key to money/power.


29 posted on 02/19/2012 5:47:27 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Chance Hart

I will have to admit that i am surprised that none of these talk show hosts have mentioned that Obama could not legally even run for the office of the presidency, and actually i thought they had, but i can not remember any particulars so maybe i just had a false impression.

However i have believed all along that these talk show hosts are going to look out for them selves first and i have heard both Hannity, Limbaugh and beck all contradict what they teach,

For instance Beck said for us to let the police know that we are the good guys, yeah right? the police are working for the government, if the government is run by the bad guys the police will still be working for them.

Hannity said that he had no problem with a secret agent going into a doctors office and posing as a patient for the purpose of seeing if a doctor would do illegal practices.

Limbaugh was dubbing something a conspiracy, can,t remember what it concerned, a day or two ago but he already had me convinced he does not believe in conspiracies.

We need to remember this country did not get to be where it is by accident, the People who have talked about socialism by design, in my opinion have it right.

The talk show hosts talk about absolute control being the agenda of the liberal democrats and i agree, but the Republican establishment is not exactly sheep either, or maybe they are when it comes to standing up to the democrats.

We have so many Government agencys including the i.r.s. the a.t.f. and others that really only have one purpose and that is to make war with the citizens of this country.

While the democrats established most of these and other socialistic agencys and programs, the republicans have not even lifted a finger to dismantle them.

If our hope is not in God, we have no hope.


30 posted on 02/19/2012 5:49:56 AM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Chance Hart

Can’t read it all because of paragraph issues.

However, they do have bosses. And families One radio guy was scared into not going there. I can’t remember whom or where but I believe he did receive threats to his family. It was on here.

I doubt it’s cowardice in a general sense, unless you want them to risk their jobs over this. It seems that no judges will take this very far either. One day the truth will out, and our kids will ask why no one vetted him. It will be hard to explain today’s complicit media. I hope.


31 posted on 02/19/2012 5:53:21 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Chance Hart

There is no longer any morality in politics. Machiavelli and Solzhenitsyn would attest. The Marquess of Queensberry is dead, man.


32 posted on 02/19/2012 5:54:28 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: central_va

Thanks for paragraphing him.

The para about his father’s citizenship —— apparently no one cares. Apparently according to our courts’ interpretations, being born on the soil means natural born. Anchor babies can be president. Or El Presidente. Sad but true.


33 posted on 02/19/2012 5:56:17 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Chance Hart
Just like your rant runs on so does the political system. We have about 10 months for this currant rant to play out. Can you spell landslide? What would be a better time to swiftboat Obama than just before the election?
34 posted on 02/19/2012 5:57:05 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: central_va

What needs to be done is to retrench. This battle, though conceded by the opposition, is lost because we cannot make anybody take action. Anybody who tries to take action quickly gets marginalized and becomes ineffective.

What needs to be fought is getting the country back to its Republic foundation. Get people in Congress who gives a care about the Constitution.

That’s where we need to fight.


35 posted on 02/19/2012 5:59:15 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Mr Rogers

The basic problem is that NBC does not and has not required two citizen parents.

It doesn’t help that birthers on this thread have made dishonest statements that they know are dishonest.

...just curious, why would you dismiss the court cases sited to back up two parent NBC, or the fact that Stanley Ann was not of age to pass on single parent NBC when Hussein was born?
These are both arguments in law with citations? Just stating that two parent NBC isn’t required in the face of legal and judicial facts is not much of a rebuttal...

ymmv


36 posted on 02/19/2012 6:00:47 AM PST by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: Chance Hart

I love it when anonymous bloggers call people cowards.


37 posted on 02/19/2012 6:01:18 AM PST by dangus
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To: JohnG45

These broadcasters are human beings with flaws, who do what they do for a paycheck. I believe that they really are conservatives but they have been threatened on this issue. Levin probably had the life of his dog threatened.


38 posted on 02/19/2012 6:02:33 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: ravenwolf

Rush has slyly hinted at it (not eligible) but not often. They have been warned off. Even palin pooh poohed the issue.


39 posted on 02/19/2012 6:04:43 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Yooperman

Ann is the biggest disappointment. She writes good, sound books on Conservatives.
But her backing of Romney of all people. She is clearly misguided or played us for fools.
Her books are striken from my reading list. Her columns will go unread. She is dead to most true Conservatives. She is the Huffington of the new decade.
Farewell Ann....it was nice to know you.


40 posted on 02/19/2012 6:07:27 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Chance Hart; holdonnow

Dufus.


41 posted on 02/19/2012 6:10:10 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Without consequences, there's no virtue". ~ Rush Limbaugh 12:51 PM, Friday, 2/17/2012)
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To: foxfield

Very nice - just because the court cases have not got off the ground means there are no good convincing argument!
Obviously you have not followed the cases since 2007!

Donofrio, Appuzo etc. have argued the cases brilliantly.
But they are no match to the judges who hold the power to dismiss them on account of made-up excuses because every one of them is afraid to rule on the merit and determine obama ineligible.

Case in point - in Feb., GA judge Malihi judged in favor of obozo who didn’t even show up for the hearing and did not submit evidence for his argument -
who has ever heard of a judge ruling the defendent born in USA without any documentary proofs from the defendent, and based on his baseless assumption that obozo was born in Hawaii he determines that obozo is a natural born citizen elig to be in the ballot! Whereas he ignores the plaintiff’s argument and proof that obozo was born to a foreign father, therefore has dual citizenship/loyalty, not a nbc and not qualified to be on the ballot!

It might be true that as long as obozo is in power no one will rule that he is ineligible...
We just might have to vote the usurper out, but he can steal another election!
We have to fight him from all directions!


42 posted on 02/19/2012 6:12:13 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Chance Hart

Using only recent history as my guide line, no amount of evidence will ever be sufficient even at the USSC level.

What penalties has anyone seen given to a member of the ruling class for violating the US Constitution? It just does not happen. Sure some have been forced out of office for violating some lessor laws but when was the last time a member of the ruling elite has been put in prison for violating the constitution?

Remember the revealing statement by Rep Pete Stark that the Federal Government can do ANYTHING it wants? Why was that man not arrested on the spot? His own words shows any rational person he has violated his OATH to support the Constitution but I guess there is no penalty for such violations.

HELL the phony political hacks at the USSC give us endless 5-4 decisions when their sole job in life is to have an understanding of a rather simple and short document and judge if an action of government or a law passed by congress or executive order (big problem here) are allowed by our founding document.

And yes the US Constitution is a simple and short document compared to all the 2000+ page crap spewed out by our lawyer infested congress. Lawyers today could not make a pimple on the butts of the founding fathers.

So you have to ask yourself if these black robed clowns are the best legal minds and not political hack why all the 5-4 decisions and usually by the same usual suspects?

If the big BO does not have a citizenship issue then why has congress tried to modify the requirements 5 times (that I am aware of) to allow a lower standard to be applied?

And just one more WHY! Why do we allow our USSC to tell citizens they have no standing on this issue? Excuse me but it seems under our system of government We The People must have STANDING on every issue that involves our government.

Any judge on the USSC and I do not care who’s political hack they are, who says We The People do not have standing should be arrested, tried for treason and given the full and proper punishment allowed for treason. Who exactly do we call on to do this? Who would enforce our constitution? Seems, based on history, there is no mechanism to remove filth like our president or the political scum on the USSC


43 posted on 02/19/2012 6:12:13 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Yaelle

Years ago I stopped at the local car wash. The attendant looked a bit like a young Lee Harvey Oswald. Being a clever young man he had figured out that people getting their car washed like to be questioned and lectured by the attendant.

So he begins, “Excuse me sir but I notice you have a briefcase in your car and could it be you are an attorney?” Having not yet developed a clever answer I answer, and he proceeds to tell me how his “research” has demonstrated that the Commerce Department and most governmantal departments and actions are unconstitutional and illegal.

It seems his dad first pointed this out to him and his own research shows it’s true. He has written it all down and perhaps the next time I’m in I’d like to read it and give him my opinion. I say sure thing, that sounds very interesting.

So I never went back to that particular car wash. Just saying.


44 posted on 02/19/2012 6:13:41 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Yaelle

Years ago I stopped at the local car wash. The attendant looked a bit like a young Lee Harvey Oswald. Being a clever young man he had figured out that people getting their car washed like to be questioned and lectured by the attendant.

So he begins, “Excuse me sir but I notice you have a briefcase in your car and could it be you are an attorney?” Having not yet developed a clever answer I answer, and he proceeds to tell me how his “research” has demonstrated that the Commerce Department and most governmantal departments and actions are unconstitutional and illegal.

It seems his dad first pointed this out to him and his own research shows it’s true. He has written it all down and perhaps the next time I’m in I’d like to read it and give him my opinion. I say sure thing, that sounds very interesting.

So I never went back to that particular car wash. Just saying.


45 posted on 02/19/2012 6:13:47 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: central_va

Boom! Paragraphs ‘fore anyone could go snarky. You handled that very well. Thanks.


46 posted on 02/19/2012 6:14:54 AM PST by ngat
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To: NCLaw441
Disagree, ok, but calling some of these guys, especially Levin, are anything but cowards.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I disagree.

Rush, Levin, Hannity, Coulter, Beck, Medved, and the rest, are COWARDS!

I turned them off in 2008 and doubt I have heard a full 30 minutes of them, or Fox, in 3 years. (And...yeah! I am shouting. )

When tyranny comes these yappers will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. ( They likely already have.) They will lick and shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

47 posted on 02/19/2012 6:16:52 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Chance Hart

My how things have changed, 3 years ago I posted similar thoughts and was flamed beyond belief. I used the term conservative talking bobble-heads to describe the whole worthless lot. I lost respect for every last one of them.

And the Heritage Foundation is r
ight there in bed with them.

They are NOT freedom loving conservatives.


48 posted on 02/19/2012 6:18:04 AM PST by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: mountainlion

How do we know it will be a landslide.
It should be a landslide.
But the elites cheat!

Maybe we need to employ a person outside of each polling place to have us sign a petition that we voted against 0.

So when there is evidence of millions of votes against 0
when they will say he won we will have proof....


49 posted on 02/19/2012 6:19:56 AM PST by freedommom
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To: mountainlion

How do we know it will be a landslide.
It should be a landslide.
But the elites cheat!

Maybe we need to employ a person outside of each polling place to have us sign a petition that we voted against 0.

So when there is evidence of millions of votes against 0
when they will say he won we will have proof....


50 posted on 02/19/2012 6:19:56 AM PST by freedommom
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