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Last time around with a gun vanity, did not acquire the Saiga .223.
1 posted on 02/22/2012 6:49:27 PM PST by DTogo
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2 posted on 02/22/2012 6:51:19 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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GunBlast did a review of said rifle, but chambered in ‘06. It will still have a lot of info.

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-American.htm


3 posted on 02/22/2012 6:56:37 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Here’s my advice and remember its worth exactly what you paid for it.

Check out the Ruger, the Remington 700, and the Winchester Model 70. Pick the one that “feels” best to you. You can’t go wrong with any of them, really.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 7:00:59 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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8mm ammo is a lot cheaper than 30-06. I have a Portuguese Mauser Verguiero and like it a lot. Nasty kick, though


6 posted on 02/22/2012 7:02:24 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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Here’s my fav.

Watch the videos and absorb how every American gun should be made!

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/icon.php


7 posted on 02/22/2012 7:02:44 PM PST by Randy Larsen (No Romney vote from my family!)
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I’m sure any Ruger bolt action is going to be an excellent gun. Ditto for any Remington, Winchester or Savage. All make fine bolt action gunes. It really comes down to what feels comfortable for you. If you can’t shoot them one thing to do is test how redily it comes into postition. Look at a “target” and fix the location in your mind. Close your eyes, and pull the rifle (or pistol) to where you think you are aiming at it, they open your eyes. The closer you are, more natural it will be to shoulder and fire.

With a bolt action I alos think it’s important to work the bolt while the rifle is sholdered. Try it with you eyes open, then try it with them closed to see how much our point of aim changes.


8 posted on 02/22/2012 7:03:14 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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AFAIK .308 (7.62mm NATO) is every bit as effective as .30-06.


9 posted on 02/22/2012 7:04:56 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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I went with the Remington 700 .308.


10 posted on 02/22/2012 7:05:09 PM PST by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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I had a chance to use my FIL’s Kimber Montana this past season and it is an absolutely beautiful gun. Very, very, very light but it doesn’t feel in the least bit fragile. It was also dead on accurate and the recoil was so clean, you could get back on the target quickly.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 7:06:36 PM PST by mnehring
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Remington 770 in .308.

I tossed the stock scope, which is probably a fine scope, for Leupold MK IV.

My friends laugh when they see my setup. “You have more scope than you have gun”.

To which I reply “When I reach out and touch someone, I’d like it to be from as far away as possible”.


12 posted on 02/22/2012 7:09:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I’m not familiar with the Ruger American Rifle. The last Ruger I bought was an M77 Hawkeye stainless in 300 WM, and it is an excellent rifle. The 308 doesn’t give up much to the .06, if anything, and I like the short actions.


16 posted on 02/22/2012 7:16:06 PM PST by pallis
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I have heard very good things about the Tikka T3. The "Lite 308" model it is supposedly guaranteed sub-MOA at $560. The Hunter version is +$100. There is a “varmint” (heavy barrel) version in .308 I have seen for $900 that is supposed to be unreal in accuracy and range.

I have never shot the Tikka, but reviews are outstanding and I have heard great things by word of mouth. I am considering one for a bolt action in .308.

I am partial to my M1a Scout Squad, but that was a good bit more than $560. AR platforms in .308 have come down quite a bit also, for what it's worth (I am not a huge fan of ARs).

18 posted on 02/22/2012 7:17:26 PM PST by madconservative (I'd rather be shooting my Glock 10mm.)
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Consider a Remington 770. It comes in a variety of calibers including .308, 30-06, .223, 8mm etc. a quality rifle at a fair price. I have three in caliber .223, 30-06 and .270. I am happy with them. Click on the link to see it and specs Remington 770
19 posted on 02/22/2012 7:18:34 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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The AR-10 is a whole lot more fun :)


20 posted on 02/22/2012 7:22:46 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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It depends on geography and terrain. Is 200 yds. all you have for range before you shoot up the neighbor's barn, or make collateral damage of their livestock? If you want to reach out and touch dinner, you have to sight the area, aka: “get the lay of the land” before you choose a rifle or shotgun for hunting. Pick a rifle or shotgun that suits the terrain.
27 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:05 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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"Yes, the ballistic performance is less than a .30-06..."

The .30-06 was developed at a time when a requirement for the standard infantry rifle was the ability to drop a cavalry mount. This was essentially the round used from WWI up to, and through Korea. By the mid-50's when the Army was looking to replace the Garand, advances in powder technology allowed for similar performance in a smaller case, with horse-killing ability no longer so much of a consideration. The 7.62 / .308 was designed to replicate the performance of the .30-06 with older powders. Certainly, with more modern powders, the .30-06 has a performance edge based solely on its larger case volume, but in actuality, the .308 gives up very little. What you gain with the .308, especially in a bolt action rifle, is a shorter bolt throw and a shorter overall action, which reduces the weight you'll be lugging around on those hunting trips.

Unless you're completely sold on a bolt, I'd recommend you at least take a look at the Browning BLR (lever gun). Of the others mentioned, the Marlin rifles will probably give you the best value for the money. As others have said here, try a few of them on for size and see what "feels" best.

Also, keep in mind that with a .308, you'll want to hang some decent optics on the rifle to fully take advantage of the cartridge, so take that into consideration when you're evaluating the balance, eye relief, stock comb etc.

Good luck and let us all know what you pick!

28 posted on 02/22/2012 7:36:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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CDNN seems to have Ruger and FN bolt action rifles in 308.


32 posted on 02/22/2012 7:42:08 PM PST by varmintman
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Go for it.


34 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:22 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Any American made rifle should be your first choice as they are all superb tools.

Yes the foreigners make great rifles too, but unlike handguns they are not DOMINANT.

When I buy a rifle now days I buy Winchester, Browning, Marlin and Remington.

For assault weapons, Ruger, Colt and Bushmaster.

For pistols Sig, Beretta and HK.

Everyone makes a good shotgun:)

37 posted on 02/22/2012 7:53:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I like my weatherby vanguard in 300 wby mag.
Bought it new for $325 a few years ago just in case I got drawn for buffalo but never got lucky.
I reload so ammo is not unreasonable and I get good accuracy(1/2 moa). So far have taken an elk and a couple deer with it, all one shot kills. For hunting I use a leaupold 2-7x scope. fot target a 6-18x bushnell.
Next is to find a good 1000 yd range that is not too far away and see how it does.....and how I do.


56 posted on 02/22/2012 8:48:44 PM PST by RBK
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