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It's been festering on him that the mexicans start speaking to him in Spanish when Filipinos do NOT speak Spanish.
Actually, since the Phil. are a former Spanish colony, many DO speak Spanish. Points well taken, though.
3 posted on 02/23/2012 4:52:41 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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“Actually, since the Phil. are a former Spanish colony, many DO speak Spanish.”

I have a couple of Filipino friends. Against popular myth, even though they were occupied by the Spaniards...they DO NOT speak Spanish. It’s just that 20% of Spanish words entered the Tagalog language eventually but 80% is still distinct. Well, they were also occupied by Americans and the japanese but only for a short time.


6 posted on 02/23/2012 4:57:20 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Actually, since the Phil. are a former Spanish colony, many DO speak Spanish. Points well taken, though.

The Spanish were kicked out in 1898, so very few Filipinos speak Spanish. Most of them have Spanish surnames, though, which confuses the heck out of marketers in So. Cal. I know a number of Filipinos who are annoyed, big time, at getting robo-calls and junk mail in Spanish.

7 posted on 02/23/2012 4:57:52 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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Actually, since the Phil. are a former Spanish colony...

That may be part of the problem. It is my understanding that Spanish rule was not well received by the Filipinos.

OTOH there are some words borrowed from Spanish. The Tagalog word for horse is "kabayo". Also, a lot of names look Spanish.

27 posted on 02/23/2012 5:30:53 PM PST by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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But not all of them do and those that speak Spanish often speak it because the Spanish forced their ancestors to speak it and forced their Spanish culture on the native Filipino culture. Which adds to the irony that a native Spanish speaker would proclaim that spekaing Spanish represents cultural liberation while for others the Spanish language could also be seen as a symbol of oppression and injustice. A kind of irony that miraculously manages to escape those whose goal is to be aperpetual victim.


34 posted on 02/23/2012 5:39:24 PM PST by emax
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Actually, since the Phil. are a former Spanish colony, many DO speak Spanish.”
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I live on Cebu, and have yet to find anyone that speaks Spanish. I will have to ask if they even teach Spanish in the schools. I doubt it.
Tagalog, from what I am told, is no longer the main language.
There are many different dialects throughout the Philippines.
Cebu is in Visayas, and the prominent language here is Visayan.
Everyone in the Philippines, however, seem to understand
each other.


37 posted on 02/23/2012 5:47:12 PM PST by AlexW
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Neighbor of mine from Cebu (a Philippino island that's majority Chinese origin) is a professor of Romantic languages. He speaks Spanish, French, etc. I suppose he can read the others with ease.

Some Filipinos know Spanish ~ but under American occupation they easily switched to English. This infatuation with Tagalog is of a piece with other Malay language initiatives in Malaysia and Indonesia.

There's nothing going to hurt anybody learning Bhassa but it's better to also know English, and in that region, Mandarin!

43 posted on 02/23/2012 6:13:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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