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To: EDINVA
In our Target store, the cart escalator is next to the people escalator. You push your shopping cart into the cart escalator, and then you step onto the people escalator which travels slightly faster. At the other end, you retrieve the cart as it comes off the escalator. The carts are free to move around the store. At the upper levels, the exits towards the parking garage upper levels have stairs and poles to prohibit removing the carts from the store. You can only exit the store with carts at ground level. I agree with you that patrol guards are useless.

I've seen pictures of the Target store in Harlem, and the carts are allowed to leave the store's upper levels on bridges that enter the parking structure. No barriers at all. Poor design. It's true that these Harlem punks could throw any miscellaneous heavy objects off the bridge onto that white woman. But the store's poor design aided the punks in giving them ammunition for their twisted amusement. My personal opinion is that the punks should be knee-capped as punishment, but lib judges will give them a pass.

22 posted on 02/26/2012 12:07:13 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat
Forget the shopping carts, if someone was so inclined, they could bring anything heavy into the parking garage in their car or truck and throw it at people below. Someone threw a brick off of an overpass onto the freeway, it hit the windshield of a passing car and the woman had a wreck and died.

Rules and regulations are good and well meaning but evil people will find a way. I am in favor of cameras so you can get a picture of a perp and arrest them but some people are against cameras. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't, as my mother used to say.

23 posted on 02/26/2012 12:21:16 PM PST by Ditter
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To: roadcat

I wonder if some of the design/access wasn’t NYC’s rules/regs? Maybe restricting cart exit only to the ground floor was deemed unfriendly to customers? And, really, tho it’s their job to anticipate virtually any circumstance, who’d have foreseen two early teens (or anyone) heaving a shopping cart up over a Jersey wall and down 4 stories.

I hadn’t realized the victim is white, and hope the matter doesn’t get more complicated because she was racially targeted (no pun intended, cause it ain’t funny). I think I just assumed all the parties were minorities.

The whole incident is just horrible. And, no matter the result of the suit, her life and her family’s life will never be the same again. Nor will those boys’ or their families’ lives.


26 posted on 02/26/2012 7:30:00 PM PST by EDINVA
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