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Karzai’s Response to Obama’s Apology: Put U.S. Troops on Trial and Punish Them
CNSNews.com ^ | Feb 26, 2012 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/27/2012 4:02:24 AM PST by TPOOH

Three days after President Barack Obama dispatched his ambassador to Afghanistan to hand deliver a personal letter from the president of the United States to Afghan President Hamid Karzai apologizing because U.S. forces at Bagram Air Force Base had mistakenly burnt some Korans, Karzai has responded to the gesture in a statement broadcast live on Afghan television.

Karzai, according to a BBC translation of his remarks made Sunday, told the Afghan people he was speaking to them after discussing the matter with “jihadi leaders,” “prominent scholars,” and Afghan elected officials, and that he spoke for the “pure sentiments” of the “Afghan nation” and the “Islamic world,” when he said: “We call on the US government to bring the perpetrators of the act to justice and put them on trial and punish them.”

At the same time Karzai was demanding the prosecution and punishment of U.S. troops involved in the Koran-burning incident, he conceded that the U.S. government had indicated that the Koran burning “was not deliberate.”

"We all know that regrettably some days ago an American soldier burnt our Holy Koran,” Karzai said, according to the BBC translation. “We condemn this vicious act in the strongest terms. The government and the people, scholars, tribal dignitaries, spiritual figures of Afghanistan, the educated people of our country all share the people's feelings... Our people's sensitiveness is right and is laudable.”

"The US government says that such act was carried out because of ignorance and lack of knowledge,” Karzai said. “This incident happened as a result of the ignorance of the US military officer about our vision about Islam and not recognizing the Koran. It was not deliberate."

"Today,” Karzai said, “we had a detailed session attended by jihadi leaders, prominent scholars, speakers of both......

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: karzai; koran; obama

1 posted on 02/27/2012 4:02:29 AM PST by TPOOH
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To: TPOOH

Bambi’s next move better be to bring home our troops. Karzai can take a flying leap.


2 posted on 02/27/2012 4:04:10 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: TPOOH
Koran burning cross reference ...

5:00 AM MST Operation #EFAD bump


3 posted on 02/27/2012 4:04:30 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TPOOH
What credibility does Karzai have after deliberately ginning up riots that lead to the killing of 12 over last year's Koran burning in Florida?

From the WSJ:

"Most Afghans learned about the Quran burning in Florida only when Mr. Karzai on March 24 (4 days after!) condemned the act as "a crime against the religion and the entire Muslim nation," called on the U.S. and the U.N. to bring the perpetrators to justice and demanded "a satisfactory response to the resentment and anger of over 1.5 billion Muslims around the world."


4 posted on 02/27/2012 4:07:47 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TPOOH
I recommend we start an eternal flame at the Twin Towers locations using Korans as fuel.
5 posted on 02/27/2012 4:08:45 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: TPOOH

“Our people’s sensitiveness is ridiculous, (not right) and is laughable, (not laudable).” FIFY, Hamid. Your sensitiveness is readily apparent to anyone who watched Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg get decapitated.


6 posted on 02/27/2012 4:13:00 AM PST by Pat4ever
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To: fortheDeclaration

We have an idiot for President.

Apologising to these people is like encouragement to take advantage.

By now he should have figured that out on his own.

Get the hell out of Afghanistan and stop sending them money.
Stop sending money to nay of our enemies.
We cannot buy their friendship so why try?


7 posted on 02/27/2012 4:16:21 AM PST by Venturer
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To: TPOOH
Hah!
Hey Ali ... c'mere ... look at this ...
The ****** mulatto sent us a letter of apology

Lemee see

Heh ... he misspelled felate you

Haw

Yeah ... Haw.

KILL THE INFIDELS !!!

8 posted on 02/27/2012 4:21:41 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TPOOH
Apologizing to these savages is like throwing gasoline on the fire. We didn't do anything wrong to begin with. If I were POTUS, I'd tell Karzai to kiss my royal Irish ass!



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

9 posted on 02/27/2012 4:26:24 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: TPOOH

how ‘bout we level what poor excuses for cities, they have, from the air, then wave the bird at ‘em as we leave them to their own devices....


10 posted on 02/27/2012 4:30:52 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: TPOOH
We should leave enough spies behind to tell us if any more 9/11s are being hatched and then abandoned the Muslims to the Taliban—Karzia will end up with no head no matter how much he sucks up to the Islamonazis.
Drill drill drill for energy here and let the Muslims drink their crude and pound their sand.

In other words—beat Obama.

11 posted on 02/27/2012 4:32:29 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: TPOOH

Hey Karzai: Eat me.


12 posted on 02/27/2012 4:41:23 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: TPOOH

Dear God, please don’t let Obama obey Karzai on this one! I fear he will!


13 posted on 02/27/2012 4:56:27 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: TPOOH

Dear God, please don’t let Obama obey Karzai on this one! I fear he will!


14 posted on 02/27/2012 4:56:31 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: keats5
That would just about guarantee Barky’s impeachment.
15 posted on 02/27/2012 5:06:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: TPOOH

I’d already have Karzai in Gitmo, giving orders, taking names and filling jails.

And in Syria, all the tanks would already be full of depleted uranium and concrete dummy smart bombs.

Iranian mullahs would be hiding in the well with the 12th imam.

Saudis would be pumping oil like a muthuh.

The Mexican border would be garrisoned will 100,000 troops.

Nothing would be left afloat in somali waters.

I’d be showing how we can fight five wars at once and win them all in short order with the requisite level of violence and take shiite off nobody.


16 posted on 02/27/2012 5:07:27 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: TPOOH

It was not Americans who desecrated the Qurans; it was Muslim and Taliban prisoners who were writing in the margins of the Qurans to send messages back and forth.

Writing in the Quran was the desecration, but it was done by the Muslims themselves.

A desecrated Quran is required to be destroyed by burning or burying. All the Americans did was to identify the desecrated Qurans and process them in accordance with the Muslim rules for disposing of desecrated Qurans, i.e., burning.

Why haven’t the true desecrators, the Muslim and Taliban prisoners, been handed over for beheading.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 5:10:13 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: keats5

The only think stopping him from conceeding to Karsai wishes about the trials, IMO, is this would be the last nail in his election campaign.

I still think he should go Lying Johnson’s way but go him one better, he should state he has decided not to run and then state he will go to Afghan and stand trial as he is the CIC and in charge.


18 posted on 02/27/2012 5:11:05 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: TPOOH

For once I would agree that we should quickly get US troops out of this hell hole and let it be dragged back into 6th century Islamic barbarism. I feel sorry for the families who have lost loved ones in this war and for the Afghans who actually wanted a new start in a free society. I especially feel sorry for the girls and young women who be reduced again to the state of cattle and persecuted or killed for having attended school or having any ideas contrary to 6th century Islam.


19 posted on 02/27/2012 5:18:08 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: TPOOH

So Hamid, which was it — “vicious” or “not deliberate”? Can’t be both.

If I download a Koran app on the iPad and then delete it, would that have the same effect?


20 posted on 02/27/2012 5:18:10 AM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: TPOOH

Does every Koran ever printed still exist?

Or do they occasionally get disposed of, when they become old.

What if you spill coffee on it?

What if the printing shop screws up a run, and has to dispose of a lot?

Is there a Holy Koran Toilet Paper yet?


21 posted on 02/27/2012 5:21:49 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: BuffaloJack

You are exactly right.

And I want to know what BO’s letter said to Karzai.

WE deserve to know and a copy should be released immediately- not just two sentences from Karzai.

WHAT DOES THE F-ING LETTER SAY.


22 posted on 02/27/2012 5:25:16 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: ConorMacNessa

My exact sentiments !!


23 posted on 02/27/2012 5:27:57 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: TPOOH

We should bring all our troops and diplomats home.

As soon as they are here we should desecrate every Koran we can find - and put it on TV for the world to see.

Then let the muslims self destruct.


24 posted on 02/27/2012 5:28:20 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: al_c

If we pulled our troops out, who would keep the trade routes for the US portion of Opium produced?? We finally re=established normal trade for the much needed Opium, Heroin and Opium use in the US has Skyrocketed since our excursion, fueling the much needed War on Drugs. Where would the US get it’s opium if we were to leave now before permanent trade routes and procedures are finalized??

http://www.bing.com/search?q=heroin+use+on+rise&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=heroin%2520use%2520on%2520rise&sc=1-18&sp=-1&sk=

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2011/1011/Afghanistan-still-world-s-top-opium-supplier-despite-10-years-of-US-led-war


25 posted on 02/27/2012 5:31:46 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: TPOOH

My response to Karzai.
President Obama apologized to you. Accept it and move on. It is the best you are going to get. Because WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT apologize for the appropriate actions of American soldiers destroying communications between our enemies.
You and your shithole Country are pressing your luck. If we had kind of a leader in America you would be toast and you country would be a parking lot.


26 posted on 02/27/2012 5:33:45 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: msrngtp2002

It is past time to allow these muslims to kill each other as they have done for 1500 years. It is also past time to deport by force EVERY muslim including the magic HMIC who stinks up the WH.

HMIC = Head Muslim in charge.


27 posted on 02/27/2012 5:37:09 AM PST by tiger63
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To: TPOOH
“We call on the US government to bring the perpetrators of the act to justice and put them on trial and punish them.” Oh our dear leader will! Photobucket
28 posted on 02/27/2012 5:45:17 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: TPOOH

We could leave and then Karzai would really lose his head. and someone else would run the poppy farms.


29 posted on 02/27/2012 5:52:26 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Vaquero

Forget their cities. Hit them where it hurts. Napalm a few million acres of poppie fields.


30 posted on 02/27/2012 6:23:10 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: lacrew
What if the printing shop screws up a run, and has to dispose of a lot?

I recall reading several threads last year about a big order of korans from China that were full of typos and had to be destroyed.....not sure which country ordered them....anyone remember.?

31 posted on 02/27/2012 6:43:14 AM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney loosers all....NEWT is the Man)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


32 posted on 02/27/2012 6:44:34 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: spokeshave
Here you go....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2772207/posts

Iran's Organization of the Holy Quran is scolding Iranian publishers who've outsourced production of the holy book to Chinese printers.

Apparently, their copies of the Quran are riddled with typos, according to the Tehran Times.

"These tableaus are made quite cheaply in China but are sold for much more than they are really worth to make that much more profit," said an official with the organization who monitors and evaluates Qurans available in Iran.

The official even urged importers to halt future Quran shipments from China, the Times reported.

If you're keeping score at home, China is accused of shipping out seafood laden with putrefying bacteria, toys laden with lead, totally fake eggs and, now, tainted Qurans.

33 posted on 02/27/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney loosers all....NEWT is the Man)
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To: woodbutcher1963

well that too.


34 posted on 02/27/2012 6:47:24 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: spokeshave
So Iran sent a load of corrupted Chinese korans to Afganistan....

And the busy beavers in Bagram jail were only making corrections.

end of story.

35 posted on 02/27/2012 6:48:17 AM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney loosers all....NEWT is the Man)
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To: spokeshave

I have a sugestion. Pull all our troops back to the US and let those a-holes keep on killing themselves.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 6:52:38 AM PST by JayAr36
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To: AD from SpringBay
This marks the END of our grand adventures in Afghanistan. We helped write their Sharia Constitution.

Fini

37 posted on 02/27/2012 6:57:49 AM PST by Broker (Battle line set. Lock & load)
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To: lacrew

38 posted on 02/27/2012 6:58:38 AM PST by tomkat (FUbo)
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To: Vaquero

If we do that, how many korans will be destroyed? Can’t have that now, can we?

BTW, when one of those spinter groups attacks another splinter group’s town, aren’t korans destroyed in the process? Me thinks the attackers owes the victims a huge apology for destroying some of those books.


39 posted on 02/27/2012 6:59:57 AM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: spokeshave
Some fun stuff from the other thread...

Did they say Chill instead of Kill??

“No God but Arrah!”

Actually, one of the typos reads: “Allan commands you to spray the unbelievers.”

My sympathies to anyone named Allan ;-)”

And the Bagram boys changed the last one to:

Allan commands you to spay the unbelievers.”

40 posted on 02/27/2012 7:04:31 AM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney loosers all....NEWT is the Man)
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To: TPOOH
“We call on the US government to bring the perpetrators of the act to justice and put them on trial and punish them.”

FU

41 posted on 02/27/2012 7:06:25 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

That’s right...and keep burning them to the ground, baby milk factory signs in english or no.


42 posted on 02/27/2012 7:37:47 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: TPOOH

And the carpetbagger in chief probably will.


43 posted on 02/27/2012 10:53:55 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Venturer

Obama wants to make the U.S. Greece.


44 posted on 02/27/2012 12:01:21 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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