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Trashing Tricare...Obama to cut healthcare benefits for active duty and retired US military
Free Beacon ^ | 2/27/2012 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 02/27/2012 1:42:26 PM PST by Beave Meister

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.

The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.

The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the Pentagon’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.

Many in Congress are opposing the proposed changes, which would require the passage of new legislation before being put in place.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: congress; elections; healthcare; liberals; military; obama; obamatricare; servicemen; tricare; troops; washington
Word fail me....
1 posted on 02/27/2012 1:42:35 PM PST by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

Words fail me....


2 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:23 PM PST by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Beave Meister

Heritage Foundation and Paul Ryan fully support this proposal.

The United States is beyond bankrupt.

40 years of the military industrial complex leeching the taxpayer dry has resulted in our sad state of affairs. The hundreds or thousands of freepers who can not see the difference between earmarked pork, budgetary fiefdoms on one hand, and the well being and contractual obligations to our troops and veterans on the other hand, have been cheerleading for this outcome since the early days of FR.

It doesn’t matter if Obama is reelected or a GOP man takes his place, the military budget will be cut by 40%, either through pure cuts, attrition, or Fed induced high inflation.

When there is nothing left in the DoD budget, they will start with the social safety net budget.

THe budget cuts or inflationary policy escape plan for the Federal government and those who really control the Federal government precludes the military personnel of this country from maintaining a “American middle class” lifestyle, ...

to add insult to injury, as a starting negotiating position Obama will demand better medical care for uninsured illegal aliens than active duty military member’s family...


3 posted on 02/27/2012 1:51:19 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Beave Meister

‘Words fail me....”

Words don’t fail me,....but the words I’d use would get me banned!!


4 posted on 02/27/2012 1:51:34 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Beave Meister

Obama doesn’t care— 71% of military votes don’t count anyhow.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/271715/disfranchised-military-hans-von-spakovsky


5 posted on 02/27/2012 1:53:25 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Beave Meister

They’ll blame it on the Republicans.


6 posted on 02/27/2012 1:56:44 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected. 0bamao's ANTI-TRUTH & SPIN TEAM is again on the move.)
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To: Beave Meister
Words fail me....

That is perfect.

7 posted on 02/27/2012 1:59:51 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Beave Meister
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8 posted on 02/27/2012 2:04:12 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Beave Meister
The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.

Isn't that the plan anyway?

Man if the gays find out the'll have to pay more for their AIDS treatments they will get an exemption.

9 posted on 02/27/2012 2:05:58 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Beave Meister

So illegals get free health care, deadbeats get free cell phones, UAW parasites get $7,000 checks, and the troops get screwed? Thats the Obama way! Reward the leeches and punish the productive.


10 posted on 02/27/2012 2:06:13 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I’m with you. I teeter on being banned frequently.

Watering the tree of liberty with the blood of someone seems more appropriate each passing day.


11 posted on 02/27/2012 2:07:04 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
"40 years of the military industrial complex leeching the taxpayer dry has resulted in our sad state of affairs."

I beg to differ - a half century of useless Great Society social programs that have created a permanent underclass have sucked the middle class dry. Cut out the useless social programs and leave our military intact - we need it now more than ever.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 02/27/2012 2:08:36 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: I cannot think of a name

My husband gave 28 years of his life so that they can live the life they live. I am so furious with this administration. Please explain to me how this man got elected.


13 posted on 02/27/2012 2:09:53 PM PST by onthegulf
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To: JerseyHighlander
Heritage Foundation and Paul Ryan fully support this proposal.

Could you please provide the source for that assertion. Thanks.

14 posted on 02/27/2012 2:12:44 PM PST by kabar
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To: GlockThe Vote

Baraq holds all the cards here.

With the Obama Depression going into year 4, the military represents many of the very few available jobs.

It’s not like folks are going to quit, or not enlist in the first place.


15 posted on 02/27/2012 2:13:11 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Beave Meister

I’m sure Boehner and our “crack” team of politicians won’t approve this.


16 posted on 02/27/2012 2:15:10 PM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Beave Meister

The Union thugs don’t have to give up anything!

We have crossed the point of no return in this once great country.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 2:15:37 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: onthegulf

“Please explain to me how this man got elected.”

Unfortunately we live in a country full of ignorant people.
I’m still trying to understand how this chump still gets double digit approval ratings!


18 posted on 02/27/2012 2:16:39 PM PST by mothball
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To: onthegulf

Less than 1% serve. The other 99% don’t give a GGD.

People equate “government spending” and the “military industrial complex” with keeping the promises made to our Retirees, Active Duty, and Vets.

The can all burst into flames in the depths of hades, and I will smile.


19 posted on 02/27/2012 2:18:26 PM PST by baileybat
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To: Beave Meister

backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS!!!!!


20 posted on 02/27/2012 2:19:26 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country., Really! NOW!!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

You left out the biggest fraud of all, the Earned Income Tax Credit (Thank you George HW Bush). All the poor are cashing their “tax refund checks” and buying new furniture and High Definition televisions.


21 posted on 02/27/2012 2:21:04 PM PST by anoldafvet
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To: onthegulf
‘Please explain to me how this man got elected.”

The same way he'll probably get reelected this year;

30-35 million brainless, witless, Kardashian worshiping, sheeple will go to the ballot box and vote the same way they buy toilet paper or floor wax - advertising. When you add that to the 20 million or so parasites that exist entirely to suckle at the government tit, and another 20 million or so anti-American, psychotic liberals - and presto - the 70 million or so it takes to inflict that worthless clown on us for another four years.

22 posted on 02/27/2012 2:22:31 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: tennmountainman

this is hussens ploy to “unionize” the military. There has been talk of this from those who have inside info.


23 posted on 02/27/2012 2:23:49 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: baddog 219

One muslim takes out all our entire military but builds his personal
army of thugs to destroy anything left that hinders his agenda.

But we know he isn’t doing it alone.

American’s should be so proud!


24 posted on 02/27/2012 2:25:52 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected. 0bamao's ANTI-TRUTH & SPIN TEAM is again on the move.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Again - free cell phones to urban leeches - higher costs to soldiers.

Free medical to illegals - higher costs to soldiers

Free handout for buying cars - higher costs to soldiers

$7000 bonus to GM hacks - higher costs to soldiers

Free college for selcted groups - higher costs for soldiers

BILLIONS to corrupt green companies and donors - higher costs to soldiers

No jail time for Corzine - court martial for Navy Seals

Got it yet?


25 posted on 02/27/2012 2:28:39 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: onthegulf

Go to any large gathering of people and look around. There is your answer.


26 posted on 02/27/2012 2:30:43 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: JerseyHighlander

BS. Social programs cost more than the military. Cut those out and we’d be fine.


27 posted on 02/27/2012 2:33:01 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: biggredd1

Jack Booted Union Thugs In The Military. What a future to look forward to.

It worked for Hitler for a while.


28 posted on 02/27/2012 2:33:13 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: JerseyHighlander

“Heritage Foundation and Paul Ryan fully support this proposal.”

Say WHAT? This sounds pretty unlikely to me, IMHO and congress would need to pass this, right? IMHO also, the greatest leaches on our society are the lazy folks who jump on Social Security Disability, welfare folks, etc. The Great Society of LBJ - “I will take from the haves and give to the have nots” was the original “let’s screw the middle class” mentality.

THAT has to quit. Take a look at the Soc. Security offices - do you see Q Tip folks (white hair / white shoes). NO, you see all young folks sucking our money.

Also, Ozippy has given us thousands and thousands of additional Government Employees. THAT also is a problem. This country needs LESS government, LESS government employees, etc. all the way down the line.

Our Service Men/Women both active and retired deserve the BEST this country has to offer. NOT illegal leaches, NOT lazy welfare folks or SSDI.

One note: Ever see Stevie Wonder? Gee, golly - he’s disabled. Bet he can’t do anything with HIS life? Ray Charles? Give me a break here.

Rant off.


29 posted on 02/27/2012 2:44:53 PM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (If we don't help make a change, then who will? It starts with us.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

I think cuts should start at the bloated DOD civilian workforce. Years ago while I was stationed at Hill AFB, UT, and later at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, the military there were a minority. My civilian counterpart earned more money than I did, he was in a strictly 8 to 4:30 job, and he never had to worry about deployment. You definitely did not want to be in the building foyer or the parking lot when 4:30 PM rolled around or you would get run over for sure.


30 posted on 02/27/2012 2:54:27 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“No jail time for Corzine - court martial for Navy Seals”

I still can’t believe this guy is walking around. My mom was right - if you want to steal, think BIG.


31 posted on 02/27/2012 3:03:02 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: I cannot think of a name

You said it pretty well. It’s more obvious by the day, the regime is confident we’re past the tipping point, where more than half the population is either too dumbed-down, stoned, or dependent to vote for anything but their own destruction.


32 posted on 02/27/2012 3:42:53 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: tennmountainman

Jack Booted Union Thugs In The Military. What a future to look forward to.

It worked for Hitler for a while.

The shop steward would be known as “Tovarisch Zampolit”.


33 posted on 02/27/2012 3:51:39 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Beave Meister; JerseyHighlander; 2ndDivisionVet

Drive up the costs so everyone wants socialism.

Obama Reveals Beginnings of Unionizing Plan for American Military?

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/02/27/obama-reveals-beginnings-of-unionizing-plan-for-american-military/

Note: pay close attention to ‘Task Force 120’ mentioned in one of the comments. It’s about destroying the U.S.A.
http://www.rto.nato.int/pubs/rdp.asp?RDP=RTO-TR-HFM-120


34 posted on 02/27/2012 4:06:15 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: biggredd1

Yep.


35 posted on 02/27/2012 4:07:47 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: FlyVet

“the regime is confident we’re past the tipping point, where more than half the population is either too dumbed-down, stoned, or dependent to vote for anything but their own destruction.”

The regime is one thing.

My problem is I have been doing a lot of traveling of late, and have pretty much come to the same conclusion. And the worst part is that ‘half’ may be understating the problem!


36 posted on 02/27/2012 7:28:24 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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37 posted on 02/27/2012 7:33:28 PM PST by narses
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To: Beave Meister

Reason #1937 why government control of OUR healthcare is an outrage.

I knew that bastard would use control of healthcare to reward and punish - just didn’t think he would get around to the military so soon.


38 posted on 02/28/2012 9:52:32 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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