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Secret 14million Bible in which 'Jesus predicts coming of Prophet Muhammad' unearthed in Turkey
Daily Mail ^ | 02/28/2012

Posted on 02/29/2012 9:13:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A secret Bible in which Jesus is believed to predict the coming of the Prophet Muhammad to Earth has sparked serious interest from the Vatican.

Pope Benedict XVI is claimed to want to see the 1,500-year-old book, which many say is the Gospel of Barnabas, that has been hidden by the Turkish state for the last 12 years.

The £14million handwritten gold lettered tome, penned in Jesus' native Aramaic language, is said to contain his early teachings and a prediction of the Prophet's coming.

The leather-bound text, written on animal hide, was discovered by Turkish police during an anti-smuggling operation in 2000.

It was closely guarded until 2010, when it was finally handed over to the Ankara Ethnography Museum, and will soon be put back on public display following a minor restoration.

A photocopy of a single page from the handwritten ancient manuscript is thought to be worth £1.5million.

Turkish culture and tourism minister Ertugrul Gunay said the book could be an authentic version of the Gospel, which was suppressed by the Christian Church for its strong parallels with the Islamic view of Jesus.

He also said the Vatican had made an official request to see the scripture - a controversial text which Muslims claim is an addition to the original gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.

In line with Islamic belief, the Gospel treats Jesus as a human being and not a God.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: aramaic; barnabas; cyprus; deathtoislam; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; forgery; godsgravesglyphs; gospel; gospelofbarnabas; jamescameron; jesus; letshavejerusalem; muhammad; simchajacobovici; syriac; talpiot; turkey
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Secret Bible: The 1,500-year-old tome was is said to contain Jesus' early teachings and his prediction of the Prophet's coming


Ancient: The leather-bound text, written on animal hide, was discovered by Turkish police during an anti-smuggling operation in 2000
1 posted on 02/29/2012 9:13:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

WHO WAS ST BARNABAS?
Born in Cyprus as Joseph, Barnabas was an Early Christian later named an apostle.

His story appears in the Acts of the Apostles, and Paul mentions him in some of his epistles.

The date, place, and circumstances of his death are historically unverifiable.

But Christian tradition states that he was martyred at Salamis, Cyprus.

He is traditionally identified as the founder of the Cypriot Church, with his feast day on June 11.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 9:14:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I found this question posted on the Daily Mail site as it relates to the news to be relevant:

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Just a small note, it is mentioned in the article that the discovered book treats Jesus as a human being and not a God and rejects the ideas of the Holy Trinity and the Crucifixion. How it could be and in the 1st and 2nd pictures of that book, there is a cross? If the book rejects the idea of crucifixion, why there is a cross? Simply, the cross in Christianity represents the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105714/Secret-14million-Bible-Jesus-predicts-coming-Prophet-Muhammad-unearthed-Turkey.html#ixzz1nnAVgT9s


3 posted on 02/29/2012 9:16:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Since it is printed on the hinder parts of a camel, it is fiction.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 9:17:32 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, what we know is that the Gospel of Barnabas is not part of the Bible, and never has been.

So, whatever is in it, it has NO bearing on Christian theology, although a LOT of New Testament “scholars” may make much of it.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 9:19:28 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a bible. It’s an old book. Nothing more.


7 posted on 02/29/2012 9:22:28 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Isn't it amazing the lengths Muzzl’ems will go to, to sell fakes to dupes who want to smear Christians, and Jesus Christ? And isn't it amazing that there are people that will buy this garbage?

8 posted on 02/29/2012 9:22:59 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is an earlier story that I saw about this bible that did not carry the muslim slant that is in this story. That article stated that this new discovery had not yet been totally translated or read. And the original article was also in the Daily Mail. I’m guessing that it has been replaced by this muslim promoting story in the archives.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 9:27:46 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: chesley

Its just Apocrypha. There are lots of them that surface from time to time—Like the Gospel of Judas, or the Gospel of Pontius Pilot. What IS the verses that seem to imply a coming of Mohammed? It might refer to many other things or saints.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 9:27:46 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: F15Eagle

I must be as dense as some think me. I see nothing in John 14 that can be twisted in any believable way into a prediction of Mo


11 posted on 02/29/2012 9:32:03 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: SeekAndFind

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” Galatians 1:8. Nothing else needs be said here.


12 posted on 02/29/2012 9:32:43 AM PST by fish hawk (Isa. 42:12 Let them give glory unto the Lord and declare his praise in the islands. (Maui))
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, and I’m Henry the Eighth I am, Henry the Eighth, I am, I am.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 9:34:25 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Yosemitest
"Isn't it amazing the lengths Muzzl’ems will go to, to sell fakes to dupes who want to smear Christians, and Jesus Christ? And isn't it amazing that there are people that will buy this garbage?

It's been a big business ever since the first pilgrims journeyed to the Holy Land. I was offered the finger bone of St. Mark in Damascus. And, if you ever want a piece of the true cross, PM me. I've got enough of them to build a boat.
14 posted on 02/29/2012 9:35:22 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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Turkish culture and tourism minister Ertugrul Gunay said the book could be an authentic version of the Gospel ...

Yup. And it could be that monkeys flew out of Ataturk's butt.

15 posted on 02/29/2012 9:37:52 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A secret Bible in which Jesus is believed to predict the coming of the Prophet Muhammad to Earth has sparked serious interest from the Vatican.

I'm familiar with that quote, not only in a Turkish version but also in all of my ancient and modern Bible versions. "This calls for wisdom, if anyone has insight, let him calculate the number . . . for it is the number of a person . . ."

16 posted on 02/29/2012 9:38:29 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: PowderMonkey
"It's been a big business ever since the first pilgrims journeyed to the Holy Land."

That reminds me of the "Blackadder" episode where Blackadder was made a bishop or some such and he was inventorying the holy relics that he had available for sale: one of them was the skull of Jesus; another was the skull of Jesus when he was a boy ...

17 posted on 02/29/2012 9:38:33 AM PST by BlueLancer (KOMEN PINK: The color of the water in the basin after Pilate finished washing his hands)
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To: pgkdan

Who decided what the Bible was to me made up of and when did they decide it? The Disciples I imagine, right?


18 posted on 02/29/2012 9:38:47 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
the Gospel of Pontius Pilot.

Lot of social mobility in those days. He rose through the ranks from river pilot to Governor of Judea. No wonder he got his own gospel.

19 posted on 02/29/2012 9:39:32 AM PST by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: Natufian

http://tinyurl.com/7jh3yjw

http://www.holyfear.net/pdf/bruce/canon_bruce.pdf


22 posted on 02/29/2012 9:42:47 AM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Natufian
"Who decided what the Bible was to me made up of and when did they decide it? The Disciples I imagine, right?"

It was a gradual process. About 90% of our current NT cannon was universally acknowledged as scripture by the end of the first century. The first written listing of the cannon which is included in most modern bibles was by Althanasius in the 4th Century.

23 posted on 02/29/2012 9:45:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: agere_contra

Legend says he was visited by Christ in a dream and converted. Wrote his gospel—and it was suppressed by Romans.


24 posted on 02/29/2012 9:47:15 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Natufian

The Apostles decided upon the composition, and of course they wrote (or dictated) most of the books of the New Testament.

No merely old book gets to be a Gospel or part of the Bible: it has to have been accepted by the authority of the Church.

There are various gnostic ‘gospels’ - they are not actual Gospels. They (for instance) contain crazy stories about the young Christ turning his friends into bread and baking them in an oven. As you can guess: the gnostic ‘gospels’ are made-up nonsense and have no validity.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 9:49:30 AM PST by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmm....

Islamic teachings on the coming of their savior (our anti-Christ) states that the antiChrist will present the worlds religious leaders with long lost proof that Mohamed was the messenger of God and “endorsed” by Jesus.

He will then kill those who refuse to accept it.

26 posted on 02/29/2012 9:51:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: circlecity

Thanks. Had a very quick read about Althanasius and will dig deeper later this evening at home. I didn’t realise that it was such a ‘messy’ process.


27 posted on 02/29/2012 9:53:50 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: BlueLancer

Lol. I think that Rowan Atkinson is an under-appreciated comic genius.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 9:54:16 AM PST by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

It is the Apostle Paul who foretold the coming of the “Prophet” Muhammad

29 posted on 02/29/2012 9:55:58 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: BlueLancer

That’s friggin’ funny right there!


30 posted on 02/29/2012 9:57:13 AM PST by Sax
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To: F15Eagle
The muzzies twist John chapter 14 in an attempt to justify the antichrist mad mo and his antichrist teachings.

We have been studying Islam in our adult Bible class. The title of the studies is "The dilemma of Islam" and it exposes facts that mad mo actually said the teachings by the Prophets were the truth. Mad mo even uses quotes from several books in the Old Testament.

31 posted on 02/29/2012 10:00:39 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Several articles on the so called “Gospel” of Barnabas...

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1) The Gospel of Barnabas; a Muslim forgery

http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo34.htm

2) The Gospel of Barnabas; a Muslim forgery Part 2

http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo35.htm

3) What do we know about the “Gospel of Barnabas”?

http://answering-islam.org/Barnabas/

4) The Forgery of the Gospel of Barnabas

http://www.muslimhope.com/ForgeryOfTheGospelOfBarnabas.htm

5) What about the Gospel of Barnabas? Who wrote it and why? Was he an apostle?

http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/index.php?option=com_custom_content&task=view&id=4506


32 posted on 02/29/2012 10:08:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: agere_contra
the Gospel of Pontius Pilot.

Lot of social mobility in those days. He rose through the ranks from river pilot to Governor of Judea. No wonder he got his own gospel.


I heard Pontius flew the plane on the Flight into Egypt.
34 posted on 02/29/2012 10:15:58 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: SeekAndFind

35 posted on 02/29/2012 10:16:42 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if the book is really 1,500 years old, or more like 1387 or less years old; making it’s compilation AFTER Mohammed??


36 posted on 02/29/2012 10:28:26 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Natufian

What disciples?


37 posted on 02/29/2012 10:45:47 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A scam or a forgery. St. Barnabas was real enough, but this is just another of the endless efforts to subvert Christianity with fake documents.

There are some genuinely old documents that simply are not parts of the Bible. But since Mohammed himself was a fake, and the Muslim religion cannot be reconciled with the Bible on the basis of the “historical” facts it invents as well as the ideas it proposes—the Allah-approved goodness of rape, murder, slavery, and oathbreaking, for instance—the idea that Barnabas would have prophesied Mohammed’s coming hundreds of years before his birth is simply unreal.

The pictures are not very distinct, but even there it looks like a fake to me.


39 posted on 02/29/2012 10:58:39 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: F15Eagle

“Incredible” is the right word.


40 posted on 02/29/2012 11:13:22 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only connection between Jesus Christ, King of kings and Lord of lords, and the child molester aka Mohammed (aka ‘slime of slime’ and ‘scum of scum’), is that the Former will be casting the latter into that eternal Lake of Fire where he will be burning for all Eternity.


41 posted on 02/29/2012 11:14:14 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
What IS the verses that seem to imply a coming of Mohammed? It might refer to many other things or saints.

That was my question. The verses that refer to the Holy Spirit seem the only ones, but they have to be twisted in ways that I cannot wrap my mind around.

42 posted on 02/29/2012 11:16:26 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: agere_contra

When I was a kid I thought the guy in the Stations of the Cross paintings wearing his Roman Air Force plumed helmet & body armor was Pontius Pilot.

Anyway, this “book” proves the muzzies will try to hijack absolutely anything. Including our belief in the G-d of Creation.

(Allah’s not the same dude, folks.)


43 posted on 02/29/2012 11:32:26 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Natufian

I’m not sure the process was messy. It was a decenetralized world with no mass communication. Everyone just took for granted the acknowledged scripture and nobody really saw a need to formally systsematize it througout the empire.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 12:05:34 PM PST by circlecity
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To: pgkdan

These ones...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple_(Christianity)


45 posted on 02/29/2012 12:06:39 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, thank you for posting these links, so I can study them properly. Do you have any spot you can point to, which is particularly worthwhile? I don’t want to pollute my mind with too much garbage. How do you think Barnabas compares to the Gospels? Does it ring true. God Bless You


46 posted on 02/29/2012 12:23:18 PM PST by STD (It Doesn't Take a Real Political Panjandrum to Cut Taxes & Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: fish hawk

Right On FH


47 posted on 02/29/2012 12:25:54 PM PST by STD (It Doesn't Take a Real Political Panjandrum to Cut Taxes & Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

48 posted on 02/29/2012 2:04:38 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Cicero

49 posted on 02/29/2012 2:35:05 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: agere_contra

I think your post is the way to look at all these various other gospels. If this one, for example, is really of historic origin, if it actually does contradict the divinity of Christ, that contradiction would cause it’s rejection from the canon by the Church.

That a document is old or its author was around or knew the apostles is interesting, but does not affect the faith or teaching of the apostolic Church.


50 posted on 02/29/2012 9:50:15 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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