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Obama sending to Congress bill to triple TRICARE premiums
Fox News Channel (live, no link) | 2/29/12

Posted on 02/29/2012 10:09:18 AM PST by pabianice

Just on Fox. Obama sending Congress a bill to triple over the next several years the premiums service people, their families, and retirees will have to pay for TRICARE medical coverage. Dem congressman on Fox claims that the military have too good a deal on medical coverage and "it's only fair to increase their permiums." Repub disagrees. Notes that Obama's buddies in civilian military jobs (i.e. unions) will see no increase.


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I remain stunned that the Repubs have been handed enough ammo to destroy Obama's chances of re-election -- and do nothing with it.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 10:09:22 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Cant we tar and feather the bastards yet?


2 posted on 02/29/2012 10:14:22 AM PST by Captain PJ
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To: pabianice

I agree. They have an almost unlimited supply of proof that this guy is at war with the American people.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 10:15:09 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: pabianice

I would like to hear Speak Boehner say, “As my good friend Senator Reid is fond of saying, this legislation is Dead on Arrival.”


4 posted on 02/29/2012 10:15:25 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: pabianice

Is this the “Change” Obama campaigned on?


5 posted on 02/29/2012 10:17:28 AM PST by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: pabianice

I am sure we will be hearing next week about the same treatment coming for all civilian federal govt employees. (NOT!)


6 posted on 02/29/2012 10:17:34 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: pabianice
I think that most of them just don't care, they are only concerned about themselves. My long dead father once told me that a politicians first duty is to get him/her self elected and their second duty is to get themselves reelected and absolutely nothing else matters.
7 posted on 02/29/2012 10:17:34 AM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: pabianice

And Congress had better STOP this travesty!!!!!!


8 posted on 02/29/2012 10:18:18 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: pabianice

“I remain stunned that the Repubs have been handed enough ammo to destroy Obama’s chances of re-election — and do nothing with it”.

One might be tempted to believe without reservation, until the power of the media looms large. The perception is Dems good, Repubs bad. Though patently false, “the people” run with it. Dems good, repubs bad. Repeat often.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 10:18:56 AM PST by wita
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To: pabianice

Makes you wonder doesn’t it? What do the pubbies say? Nothing? Crickets?

My premium went up 37% in February and I renewed with a doubled deductable and got a notice three days later that premium is going up 2.47% on May 1. I doubt we will be able to afford health insurance much longer.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 10:18:59 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: pabianice

Please Please vote this POS out of office and the RATs in congress too.


11 posted on 02/29/2012 10:19:24 AM PST by rhubarbk
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To: pabianice

I wonder if the ‘have too good a deal’ logic will be applied to public section employees? I wonder if itll apply to current and former federal elected officials?


12 posted on 02/29/2012 10:23:00 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Sequoyah101

If the Republicans did say anything, the media would only carry it if they can portray it as outrageous, racist or elitist.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:11 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: pabianice

Boehner could do well to get in the spotlight a little.

Obama is using the primary distractions to sneak some of the most rogue of his agenda in.

COME ON, BOENER! Get your head out of Romney’s ass for a minute to see what else is going on.


14 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:15 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: pabianice

First off they’re not premiums. They’re enrollment fees.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 10:26:28 AM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: pabianice

I need to remember my good deal when after 20 years with the company I made $28,000 dollars not counting $12,000 in allowances my last full year in the Nav.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 10:28:55 AM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I would like to hear Speak Boehner say, “As my good friend Senator Reid is fond of saying, this legislation is Dead on Arrival.”

While Boehner is playing tidly-winks with Romney and his eye is off the ball, Obama will start screaming about a "Do Nothing Congress".

Next Obama speach, "I tried to tackle the deficit problem with some tough new remedies. Now I didn't want to have to charge our good military brothers and sisters more or anyone else for this Obamacare. But we all have pay our fair share. The republicans in the house don't want to solve problems. They want this country to go broke."

Boehner will look stupid trying to rebut something where the false premise has already been set by the media.

17 posted on 02/29/2012 10:29:34 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: pabianice

Current Co-worker is a retired Sgt with USAF. His monthly premiums for he and his wife are $36/month. We both work on base, he picks his Rx up for FREE.

Makes a difference when you put actual numbers to what is paid for Tri-Care, doesn’t it? Contrast that to what most working-class Americans are paying for their Health Care Insurance.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 10:29:57 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: pabianice

Who is this Dem Congressman Putz? I want a name.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 10:30:31 AM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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I remain stunned that the Repubs have been handed enough ammo to destroy Obama's chances of re-election -- and do nothing with it.

They are one in the same - most all bought & paid for hacks - controlled by the elites for the elites. Nothing will change as long as we have a total corrupt government & voted in by a large corrupt populace, which depends on gov.

20 posted on 02/29/2012 10:30:39 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: pabianice
Look at what else is going on with the military..Our men and women that serve this country having to do with out food while the Senate and Congress and the trash in the white house lives like Kings..Obama and his free loading family taking one vacation after another using the money that can go to feed military children..Now the fool in the white house is going to make them pay more in medical insurance..

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/More-Fort-Hood-Families-Seeking-Help-140495053.html

21 posted on 02/29/2012 10:30:46 AM PST by PLD
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To: pabianice

AKA, let’s kill off the military first. That way, we gets us our own homies in there.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 10:33:05 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: pabianice

Those who are our declared enemies and captured receive unlimited healthcare while the men getting shot while defending this nation receive little.


23 posted on 02/29/2012 10:33:35 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Hodar

Contrast it with what most free-loaders are paying...

And I include Congress and the usurper in that group.


24 posted on 02/29/2012 10:35:09 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: pabianice

I have the answer, increase the union goons premiums 3x and keep the military and retirees at current the premiums.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 10:35:34 AM PST by rawhide
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To: pabianice
"unions will see no increase"

26 posted on 02/29/2012 10:36:52 AM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: pabianice

Yet 0bama fully backs the unions who cry and moan about picking up a portion of their medical costs.


27 posted on 02/29/2012 10:37:46 AM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron)
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To: butterdezillion
Contrast it with what most free-loaders are paying...

Good point ... One way to deal with this is remove Medical Care as a basic human right. Stem the tide of illegals using the ER as their primary means of seeing the Doctor. When you have a large number of using the hospital free of charge; those of us with insurance, or who actually work for a living; get nailed paying for the free-loaders.

28 posted on 02/29/2012 10:38:00 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: combat_boots

Exactly.

Am I remembering right, that a while back the military was pushing “counseling” where wounded soldiers were supposed to analyze whether it would be easier on their families if they just died rather than going through rehab?


29 posted on 02/29/2012 10:39:02 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Hodar

Obamacare just made it so that Muslims have a free pass to be the free-loaders. IIRC it was the day after Obamacare passed that an imam declared that insurance is “gambling” and thus against Islam. So Muslims don’t have to be insured.

I’ve wondered if that means that Muslims can’t drive a car - or if that means that the “uninsured” insurance I have to buy is a dhimmi tax that I pay in subservience to the Muslims who don’t have to be insured.

SO MANY signs of creeping sharia.


30 posted on 02/29/2012 10:42:10 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Hodar

$36/Month is a fraction of what I pay. Of course, in my job I don’t have to worry about our country’s enemies shooting at me.


31 posted on 02/29/2012 10:43:12 AM PST by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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>>Makes a difference when you put actual numbers to what is paid for Tri-Care, doesn’t it? Contrast that to what most working-class Americans are paying for their Health Care Insurance.

I see. Please describe the times in your civilian job you were shot at, came under artillery fire, and were wounded, and how many times you were sent away from your family for a 1-3 year unaccompanied tour.

32 posted on 02/29/2012 10:43:37 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: Hodar

Most working class people didn’t move every couple years, dragging their families with them. Most working class people didn’t spend weeks, months or even years seperated from their loved ones. Most working class people have not had to endure hardships like that of the military.
One of the carrots dangled in front of GI’s to get them to commit to 20+ years was the free health care. It was the deal they made with the rest of America to protect the freedoms we have.
Where were you when the Shiite hit the fan? Probaby sitting on your fat assets. Sad Sack of Siberian Sheep Shiite.


33 posted on 02/29/2012 10:44:17 AM PST by Captain PJ
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To: pabianice

Boehner and McConnell will simultaneously America and what is remaining of the GOP.

That’s what we get for looking the other way and continue to vote for progressives in the GOP!!!

Their plan is playing out just like they expected.


34 posted on 02/29/2012 10:44:28 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: butterdezillion

I remember that. Can’t find a link now. Interesting.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 10:45:03 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Let me see: get uprooted every 3-4 years, get sent to be shot at in some hell-hole to protect "working class Americans", your pay is laughable compared to a private sector job in the same field (Physicians, nurses, Administrator, engineers etc...), you have PT requirements, training, on notice 24/7, lose a lot of your freedom, and if you want to put in 20 years you are promised some benefits in the end. And get this, if you permit yourself to be in the service of this Country and make these sacrifices you get "free" medical care.

I take it you want a military comprised of conscripts?
36 posted on 02/29/2012 10:48:49 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: cld51860

It’s spine and guts time for the RNC, Conservatives, the Tea Party, and We The People or else, IMO.


37 posted on 02/29/2012 10:50:35 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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"Obama sending to Congress bill to triple TRICARE premiums"

No problem. Send it back with black letters stamped

FUBO!

38 posted on 02/29/2012 10:53:12 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: combat_boots

I made a quilt for a wounded soldier, along with matching friendship bracelets - one I have on my left arm at all times to remind me to pray for him and one for him to have so he can know that I’m praying for him. One of the things I pray for the most is the courage and hope to keep pressing on in his recovery, as well as a sense that he is loved, respected, and appreciated, and that he has a purpose for being here.

Just like everything I’m trying to accomplish in my life, seems like I’m paying my government to undo it. Everything in my being is saying to that soldier, “Live and prosper!” And my government is tapping their foot and saying, “Can’t you just die already?”

To help me know how better to pray, I watched “Black Hawk Down” for the first time a while back. I watched it again just 2 nights ago while I put newspapers together. I am struck again and again with the knowledge that our arrogant usurper is unworthy to even lick clean the latrines of those guys.


39 posted on 02/29/2012 10:54:09 AM PST by butterdezillion
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The incident portrayed was not the only one at that time.

Also watch “The Kingdom,” if you haven’t. There’s a perspective, right there. A couple of characters are lame, though.

From the movie script:

“DOJ pol type: I’m gonna bury you.

The answer from the Director/guy in charge (DC setting. Fancy office): You know, Westmoreland made all of us officers write our own obituaries during Tet. When we thought the Cong were gonna end it all right there. And once we clued in to the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn’t scare us anymore.

The end comes no matter what. The only thing that matters is how do you want to go out? On your feet or on your knees?

I bring that lesson to this job. I act knowing that someday this job will end, no matter what.

You should do the same.”

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/k/the-kingdom-script-transcript.html


40 posted on 02/29/2012 11:02:56 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: pabianice

I seem to remember that Mr. obama (the ineligible president) said that the military health care should not be free since they volunteered for the service and knew what the risks were. (not a direct quote but close).


41 posted on 02/29/2012 11:04:47 AM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama and Sen. Rubio are NOT Natural Born Citizens.)
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To: combat_boots

I’ll see if I can find it. That sounds like what I’ve been working through in my own mind and with our kids. There’s a very real possibility that we will be given a choice to either bow to Islam or be killed/tortured. We’ve been trying to help our kids realize that there are things far worse than death or any other suffering in this world, and that we don’t need to fear anything because we’ll be given the strength we need when we need it.


42 posted on 02/29/2012 11:15:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: cld51860
I agree. They have an almost unlimited supply of proof that this guy is at war with the American people.

Along with his partners in the Democrat Party and cheerleaders in the MSM.

43 posted on 02/29/2012 11:15:46 AM PST by TexasCajun
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Obama and the democrats have to screw veterans to get the money needed to provide free health care to:

- Sex crazed college sluts having sex three times a day 24/7/365

- Professional Moochers

- 4th generation Brood Sows

- Illegal Aliens

- Michelle Obama

- Members of Congress, the House and the Supreme Court

- 4 million other federal workers


44 posted on 02/29/2012 11:29:35 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Captain PJ

With what the military is paid, you would understand why health car was free. That all changed when the courts determined the gov’t word meant nothing. Bad vibes continue.


45 posted on 02/29/2012 11:31:53 AM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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“One of the carrots dangled in front of GI’s to get them to commit to 20+ years was the free health care. It was the deal they made with the rest of America to protect the freedoms we have.”

Friend, I was in the military. I know and respect military service. None of what follows applies to those severely injured in service their country. I did my hitch and got out eagerly. Today, the retirement benefit package makes each member of the military defacto millionaires - even multi-millionaires.

The country simply cannot pay for a 38 year old soldier & spouse medical care costs for the next 40 years. We don’t have the money. Somebody made promises that cannot be kept. It’s simply a fact. We do not have the money.

Additionally, The more the military is placed above the average citizen, the less free we actually are - because you are asking the impossible of the citizens whose freedom the military defends. We do not have the money. The same principal applies to other federal, state, and municipal government employee retirement plans, not just military.

The people that have to pay the taxes that support all of this cannot continue to make folks that leave government service - whether by military or civilian or any other means millionaires. We can barely afford our own medical benefits - and we are supposed to pay for everyone elses first?

I’m not pretending to know what the answer is - but the answer is NOT to make every military member that makes it to 20 years a multi-millionaire when retired pay and medical benefits are considered.

The deal our founding fathers made with every American - freedom supersedes the deal the military bureaucracy made with members of the military.

Again, I don’t know the answer, but apparently you do not know the answer either.

Military service can be very hard and brutal - if you live through it, I agree, but the answer is not to make you a multi-millionaire when you retire. It can’t be.


46 posted on 02/29/2012 11:36:36 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: NEMDF
I am sure we will be hearing next week about the same treatment coming for all civilian federal govt employees. (NOT!)

When Obamacare passed, I received an email from OPM stating that my Fepblue would not meet the minimum requirements of Obamacare and I would be breaking the law if I didn't do something about it. If I break the law, I lose my security clearance. If I lose my security clearance, I lose my job.

47 posted on 02/29/2012 11:37:45 AM PST by Getsmart64
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To: RFEngineer
The country simply cannot pay for a 38 year old soldier & spouse medical care costs for the next 40 years.

Not when they are also paying for free lifetime medical care for millions of moochers, loafers, drug addicts, illegals and other assorted victim groups and voting blocs who have done exactly nothing to deserve 5-cents worth of free care.


48 posted on 02/29/2012 11:44:55 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Iron Munro

“Not when they are also paying for free lifetime medical care for millions of moochers, loafers, drug addicts, illegals and other assorted victim groups and voting blocs who have done exactly nothing to deserve 5-cents worth of free care. “

It should go without saying that these folks do not deserve free anything.


49 posted on 02/29/2012 11:46:54 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

“Today, the retirement benefit package makes each member of the military defacto millionaires - even multi-millionaires.”
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I retired in 1982 and am by no means a millionaire. My retirement pay at that time was $600/mo. On that I also had to pay income taxes. I spent over 20 years moving where I was told to go, did the job I was told to do, and ate when I was told I could eat. I don’t think the military is being put above anyone. They have earned the medical care that they were promised.

The gov has already broken their promise to me on educational benefits. They changed the rules and told me that my benefits has expired. That was not in the contract I signed. There was no mention of the benefit expiring (the old GI bill). Now they want to change the rules again on medical care. I’m getting very upset with the whole gov system!


50 posted on 02/29/2012 12:07:37 PM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama and Sen. Rubio are NOT Natural Born Citizens.)
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