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Interesting add-on for Firefox - Collusion

Posted on 03/03/2012 6:52:18 PM PST by djf

I just installed the "Collusion" add-on to Firefox. Anybody else tried this one?

It shows a graphic of websites that are supposedly tracking you when you open a page.

So far, FR is clean. Rense IS NOT! Neither is Drudge!

Not sure exactly what it means by "websites that are tracking me". Cookies? One of those weird pixel thingamajigs?

I may leave it installed, I might trash it, not sure yet...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: collusion; cookies; firefox; mozilla; trackingcookies; websites; webtracking

1 posted on 03/03/2012 6:52:23 PM PST by djf
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To: djf

I installed it this morning. FR is about as clean as they come. It’ll be nice when they upgrade and allow us to delete the cookies right from the page.


2 posted on 03/03/2012 6:55:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: djf

I haven’t used it, but DNT+ (Do not Track Plus) has been up and running on Firefox ever since I heard about it here.

Seems to work very well. BTW, I allow websites like FR to track me with Google Analytics.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 6:57:24 PM PST by expat1000
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To: cripplecreek

I strongly suggest both of you try NoScript, if you aren’t already doing so.


4 posted on 03/03/2012 6:58:06 PM PST by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: cripplecreek

Wondering... if you add those things that pop up to your LMHOSTS file will it block them? Still not sure what it means by “they are tracking me”...


5 posted on 03/03/2012 6:58:52 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf

I recently installed a similar add-on that works with both Firefox and IE.

It is called DoNotTrack+ from http://abine.com.

I just did an upgrade and it stopped 25 Google trackers.


6 posted on 03/03/2012 6:59:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: The Black Knight

What does NoScript do?


7 posted on 03/03/2012 7:00:01 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: The Black Knight

Already got it. I’m inclined to think that some places have figured out a way to turn it off for their site if you temporarily allow scripts for that site. I go out about every other day and check through the things that are allowed by Noscript and delete anything I’m not sure about.


8 posted on 03/03/2012 7:01:51 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf

Basically I think they mean that when you visit a site, other sites are alerted to your web surfing habits. I know that some of them are basically market research sites.

One example of how you know someone is watching is through ads customized to your interests. For instance, I’m a Santorum supporter so I get Santorum ads everywhere. I visit lots of photography and photoshop sites so I get ads for camera and photo editing software all the time.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 7:06:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TomGuy

What is the downside to adding this? Is it a monthly fee?


10 posted on 03/03/2012 7:06:49 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: TomGuy

OK.

So I installed DNT.

Collusion is now telling me that DNT is tracking me!!!


11 posted on 03/03/2012 7:08:19 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


12 posted on 03/03/2012 7:13:35 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Linda Frances

DoNotTrack is free.


13 posted on 03/03/2012 7:13:48 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: djf

Ghostery also works well.


14 posted on 03/03/2012 7:14:17 PM PST by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: djf
Interestingly enough, FR doesn't even show up unless you visit a thread with pictures. Then you'll get a bubble showing imageshack or photobucket etc.

Here is what I get just looging into my comcast account. Yahoo and a couple of market research type sites. The lightbulb is the comcast mail server and the clear bubbles are the trackers. I have two emails from yahoo in my inbox.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
15 posted on 03/03/2012 7:14:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: djf

yup, and now, instead of google, or facebook or twitter trackign us, DNT is trackign us and selling the info to advertisors- Swell-


16 posted on 03/03/2012 7:18:16 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks to your graphic, I now got Imageshack tracking me!

;-)

Actually, mail-wise, I still use Outlook Express and he does things with a POP3 server interface so never actually has to use HTTP protocol to the server. So I can get my mail with no conditions...


17 posted on 03/03/2012 7:19:45 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf

LOL


18 posted on 03/03/2012 7:20:57 PM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: djf
Their are so many Ghostery, etc. gosh I don't know where to start, my latest fav anonymox. changes your proxy to another country and surf anonymously baby...

careful though, some of these things don't play well together and some do the same thing.

Also, Screw Google, don't use it anymore, try "duckduckgo"....

19 posted on 03/03/2012 7:23:30 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: gop4lyf

Second Ghostery along with no-script.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 7:27:33 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: taildragger
Also, Screw Google, don't use it anymore, try "duckduckgo"

I switched to them and "startpage".

21 posted on 03/03/2012 7:29:20 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: djf

You should try a Tracking Software Blocker by Abine.I’m using it and it says I had One Company,Google Analytics tracking Me.The Software Blocked it though so its not a problem.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 7:30:39 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: TomGuy

Wow. I got Collusion, and the thing looked like a star chart from Star Trek. Then I d/l’ed DNT+ and Collusion is dead space. Nice thread....


23 posted on 03/03/2012 7:32:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: gop4lyf

Yep...Ghostery is good.


24 posted on 03/03/2012 7:45:08 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: djf
I use Do Not Track Plus (http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?). It shows Google Analytics tracking for FR.
25 posted on 03/03/2012 7:47:00 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: TomGuy

It says to close IE to continue setup. So I ‘x’ out of IE and click ‘continue’ but I keep getting a popup that says IE is still running. I thought when I ‘x’ed out and was lookng at my monitor and the icon, IE was closed?


26 posted on 03/03/2012 7:47:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: djf; All

One of these days, stupid folk will realise that the United States Postal Service doesn’t track anyones contacts.

Try to form a militia via internet...Sheesh!


27 posted on 03/03/2012 7:50:03 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: The Black Knight

Also try PROXPN, it’s free.


28 posted on 03/03/2012 7:56:10 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: djf
Here's the liberal "Occupy" site:

Yeah amazing what hypocrites they continue to be day in and day out.

huffington post website cookies and trackers collusion

29 posted on 03/03/2012 7:59:00 PM PST by NoLibZone (Buffet proves calls for more taxes is to buy votes,not reduce deficits.He pays less than Bush rates.)
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To: TomGuy

LOL! I have to ask... Did you just Rick Roll me?
That “Albine” thing keeps looping back to the “Internet Explorer is not closed” popup and like an idiot I keep clicking ‘retry’.

Heh.. Ya got me!


30 posted on 03/03/2012 8:01:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: djf

lol!

Apps will inform on each other!

KGB app!!


31 posted on 03/03/2012 8:05:13 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cripplecreek

I visited sites for my sister and niece and my brother-in-laws dad and I see ads all over the blogs and stuff for those things I searched for!


32 posted on 03/03/2012 8:09:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Lancey Howard
It says to close IE to continue setup. So I ‘x’ out of IE and click ‘continue’ but I keep getting a popup that says IE is still running. I thought when I ‘x’ed out and was lookng at my monitor and the icon, IE was closed?

Sometimes, browers will hang, even when it seems they have shut down.

Go to the Task Manager, find IE in the process list and try closing from there. Otherwise, you might have to reboot.
33 posted on 03/03/2012 8:18:55 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: NewJerseyJoe; djf

I just added it to my browser, DNT... and I have no idea how to view these reports... I left and right clicked but nothing happens


34 posted on 03/03/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Later


35 posted on 03/03/2012 8:30:39 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: djf

bookmark


36 posted on 03/03/2012 8:35:35 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GeronL

My AVG just said it was a virus or something

I saw no reports so I assume it doesn’t work for me. So how do I remove it?


37 posted on 03/03/2012 8:41:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TomGuy

Thanks!


38 posted on 03/03/2012 8:50:36 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: upchuck

Hey, bud. So, I installed Collusion last night and played with it for a while. Pretty cool how it shows the tracking relationships in graphic form.

One little problem, though. The icon for it was residing in a little tool bar that it installed at the bottom of my screen. I hate extra tool bars, so I hit the little x on the left hand side to close it. Now I can’t find the Collusion thingy to save my life. I’ve looked everywhere, but no luck.

Did I delete it, or something?


39 posted on 03/03/2012 8:51:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: djf

The development of this program is sponsored by the Ford Foundation. These folks are not know for their love of Americans, liberty or human life in any way, shape or form.

They are probably using it for their own radical political and social tracking. Don’t want google to get one up on them.


40 posted on 03/03/2012 9:03:15 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: CottShop

Do we know this, or is this just supposition?


41 posted on 03/03/2012 10:01:42 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: SaraJohnson

I think people are getting the wrong idea...

You are already being tracked by websites...be it simple Access logs or by cookies and other info harvesters.

This does plug-in does not track you - it just represents the tracking graphically. (and reveal the “Collusion” of sites tracking you)

Example - When you visit a website - look down in the lower left...you’ll see all the surrogate info collectors flashing by in the status bar (googleanalytics, quantserve, adyeild to name some common ones) - thats the stuff you’ll see in the graph.

If you’re using NoScript or something similar - you probably will appear as untracked - (or you would hope)

If the Ford Foundation wants data - they can just buy it from google - thats how they make money(one of the ways). If anything there blowing the whistle on a lot of info harvesting that might otherwise go unnoticed.


42 posted on 03/03/2012 10:12:25 PM PST by 2ndamendmentpa
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To: 2ndamendmentpa

Why buy the data from google if you are a big fat global social engineer and can create own data collection operation?


43 posted on 03/03/2012 10:23:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: TomGuy

Thanks!
I rebooted and finally got the program installed.
Damn. I am old and get easily frustrated sometimes.
I’m looking forward to seeing how well this thing works.

FRegards,
LH


44 posted on 03/03/2012 11:35:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: djf

I use GHOSTERY for Firefox and it is showing 1
“Google analytics”

http://www.ghostery.com/apps/google_analytics


45 posted on 03/04/2012 1:06:15 AM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: Windflier

On my version of FF the icon is up next to the URL box.

Wouldn’t it be cool if the installation gave you several possible places to place the icon?

Take a look at TrackerBlock from http://www.privacychoice.org/


46 posted on 03/04/2012 5:27:55 AM PST by upchuck (Where others hold a window into the world, nobama holds a mirror. h/t - Don Surber)
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To: TomGuy

It is called DoNotTrack+ from http://abine.com.

Very good program, I suggest ever-one give it a try. Can’t stop all Mal-ware, but ever bit helps, and “do not track” prevents add-ware.


47 posted on 03/04/2012 7:02:12 AM PST by buck61
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To: upchuck
On my version of FF the icon is up next to the URL box.

Hmm... I have the latest version of FF, but I only have the Ghostery icon and my video downloader visible in the address toolbar. Ah well, finding Collusion is way down on my list of priorities right now.

Cool tool, though. Thanks for turning me on to it.

48 posted on 03/04/2012 1:53:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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