Skip to comments.Why did Newt falter? Can he come back? (vanity)
Posted on 03/05/2012 3:09:09 PM PST by Signalman
It's all very disappointing. Based on polls, It appears Newt Gingrich is not likely to be the nominee. But why? He is (in my mind) the most qualified man in the country to be President. He's the most knowledgeable and articulate candidate and, without question, the best debater in either party. Everyone knows he would obliterate Obama in a debate.
He has the best and boldest ideas to get this country back on track. And I think that he would, by his sheer brilliance, and ability to put forth a convincing argument, garner enough independents to vote for him to make him president.
His stand on Israel, in particular really impresses me. He has gone on record stating that he would put the American embassy in the capital of Israel, Jerusalem. That is BOLD.
I just hope he can turn it around and make a comeback.
He is in what would seem a golden opportunity, yet cannot seem to pierce the 16% barrier. Romney and Paul seem to be the only ones gaining from Santorum.
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He announced in May, floundered in the 10% range for months until Cain dropped out, rose, stuck his feet in his mouth and sank back to the mid-teen percentage range.
His rise was a fluke. I doubt it happens again.
However, if either Santorum or Gingrich drops out, the other might garner enough to give Romney a real challenge. Otherwise, the hucka-hanger-on will cause Romney to get the nomination. IIRC, soon after SuperTuesday, most of the primaries become winner-take-all, so being even a strong #2 is moot.
Personally, I think it was because of Rush Limbaugh throwing a nutty where his mouth was in motion before his mind was in gear.
Just before Florida, the PAC ad came out where Gingrich attacked Romney (who had been personally attacking him for months) on his misleading depiction of his business career. Romney tried to make it seem like he was in a productive business, but he was in the financial biz and in a very dubious area of it. There’s nothing wrong with that, in essence, but Romney was being dishonest and should have had to tell people what Bain Capital actually did that made him filthy rich and how powerful Bain Capital still is in the financial world... and how tied in with the US government.
But Rush shot off his mouth and announced that this was “anti-capitalist” and this became the meme and it totally destroyed Gingrich.
Actually, Gingrich is the only one of the candidates who has treated Rush with courtesy after his recent foot-in-mouth episode, so I’d say Gingrich gets major gentleman points for that!
He faltered because of the unrelenting attacks by the Romney/MSM cabal.
His personal life didn’t help matters, either.
Can he bounce back? Sure he can.
Will he? Don’t know.
Santorum is already beginning to fade away, and Romney seems to be inching closer to inevitability, but there is hope for a Newt comeback.
With each passing day, Romney becomes more unelectable. Perhaps GOP primary voters will collectively pull their heads out of their asses and get behind a real conservative candidate. Newt is the last viable choice.
I do predict another Gingrich surge. Just don’t know if it will be enough.
It is a mystery. The people I talk to love Newt and when I ask if they are going to vote for him, they respond that they have heard that he can’t beat Obama, so they don’t want to waste their vote.
I think he can still come back, but time grows very short.
Although I don’t think it’s fair or relevant, a lot of people just don’t like Newt. The Presidency has become a glamour contest, a tabloid event. Newt’s been portrayed as a grumpy old man and it stuck with many of the sheeple.
“Why did Newt falter? Can he come back?”
Newt faltered because he could not withstand the Romney onslaught of negative ads in Florida. People are generally stupid and do whatever the box in their living room tells them to do.
Newt’s own mistakes and, at times, inept campaign strategies didn’t help.
Can he come back? Doubtful. He put all his eggs in one basket (the South on Super Tuesday). He will carry Georgia and... that’s probably it.
I agree Newt is the most qualified. I guess that he has simply “too much baggage” to quote the cliche.
Newt is facing just what he faced in the 1990s the entire left, and the gop-e, along with the Democrat party.
Newt is facing the entire range of the left, from liberal republicans all the way to the far left democrats, even the Paul nuts.
Newt is the only one who can save America.
Romney is Obama without the tan, Santorum will be used by the RINO’s .
Stop. Newton survived 83 Bull Shiite ethics accusations and a phony IRS investigation.
He came out on top and his policies remained intact.
It ain’t over til it’s over.
I find that Santorum’s main problem is that he has trouble prioritizing his message, which is why he’s having trouble gaining traction. I don’t think Gingrich dropping out would fix this.
Newt won a historic victory in South Carolina, and was leading to win Florida ... when that SOB Mormon God Child ran 13,000 negative ads against Newt ... ergo Romney won ... Its taken Newt weeks to recover, but he is back now to WIN !
IMHO you can trace his fall to when he started attacking Romney for being too harsh on illegals. Newt had already gotten into trouble early on with his Perry-esque warning to conservatives for not being “humane” to illegals that had been here a long time. It even got the “FUNG” from Jim Robinson himself.
Later, when it appeared no other candidate had a shot at stopping Romney, many of us held our noses at the Newt/Pelosi couch commercial on globull warming and his multiple wives and...like Jim...went all in on Newt.
After Santorum won Iowa, it seemed that there was another possibility that did not require as much nose holding. Support started to shift, Newt had a bad debate with moonbases, and then the attack on Romney for being too harsh on illegals. It brought back all the amnesty talk and gave Mittens cover so he could pretend to be conservative.
After Jims announcement of support for Newt and his warning about attacking the remaining conservatives in the race, many Newt doubters held their tongues. The constant attacks on (in their words) “Reverend Rick”, “Little Ricky” etc etc has caused more and more freepers to be more open about their doubts about Newt. Attacks about morality not being important anymore and the recent cheering by some anti-rick noobs about Romney catching up to Santorum has caused more of the Newt doubters to speak out in the open.
Just my 2 cents. I want Romney stopped. Whether its Santorum or Newt that does it.
Rush has his head buried in the sand. His lack of support for Newt will cost American and his rant he cannot support any candidate is being a pure coward. If he cannot see that Newt and Newt only have the ideas and the inside knowledge to get the conversion back to a conservative Constitutional America. This is not the time to joke around.
Maybe he'll tell us how much he hates us, unless he's firing us again.
He’s going to win a grand total of one state tomorrow. One state. His home.
It’s then time to unite the remaining two CONSERVATIVES, Rick & Newt to take down the LIBERALS, Willard & Barack.
I think you nailed it exactly on the head.
“But Rush shot off his mouth and announced that this was anti-capitalist and this became the meme and it totally destroyed Gingrich.
“Actually, Gingrich is the only one of the candidates who has treated Rush with courtesy after his recent foot-in-mouth episode, so Id say Gingrich gets major gentleman points for that!”
I completely agree on both points.
Rush is an entertainer and says anything that flits across his mind. He has become a shock-jock, and I only hope that this latest stupid incident, which has taken national attention off the real issues, will make him sober up.
People look to him for sensible commentary, but I think he stopped giving that some time ago. It’s all bluster and sensation now, and he never thinks about the impact.
1. As a former House Speaker, he was combative and partisan by nature. Those traits make for a great Speaker but weigh against someone who is trying to win a national popularity contest.
2. Related to #1 ... He spent way too much time in his life as an inside-the-Beltway hack who never spent much time (if any) in private industry. This made his attempts to paint himself as an "outsider" completely transparent and phony.
3. Related to #1 and #2 ... He simply doesn't come across as an executive (because he's not). For all of Romney's flaws, he looks and acts like someone who can be in charge of a small-town grocery store, a Fortune 500 company, or the United States of America.
I think it is all the fault of Bush, Limbaugh, Newt’s exs, Santorum, Romney, Ron Paul, Mark Levin, that Savage person, Beck, Will, Hume, Bachmann, my folks, my cats, my folks again, and all the dumb voters, etc; that are unable to see how marvelous Newt is.
“His lack of support for Newt.”
Rush doesn’t endorse candidates.
“I think it is all the fault of Bush, Limbaugh, Newts exs, Santorum, Romney, Ron Paul, Mark Levin, that Savage person, Beck, Will, Hume, Bachmann, my folks, my cats, my folks again, and all the dumb voters, etc; that are unable to see how marvelous Newt is.”
In my own life, I was the only one who was consistently present when things didn’t go well for me.
As with Newt and all of the other candidates, their shortcomings are their own.
Newt could be the next Reagan.
Heres a few clues,,
Left office midterm leaving his state in the lurch
Cheated on 2 wives
Had an affair with intern same as BJ Clinton.
Helped Bawny Fwank while making millions off fannie and freddie
Sold his influence to the highest bidder
Sat on the couch with Nancy supporting global warming.
Supported Dede Scozzafawa against the tea party
Newt Falter because Mittens unleashed 25millon dollars worth of BOGUS attack adds on him. Followed by nearly ever single member of the GOP-E committing character assassination on him.
I hope when the wins the POTUS he rams his boot so far up the GOP-e they taste red GA Clay for a month.
I totally agree. None of these guys are perfect, but the blame for why people have particular impressions of them is something they each own.
That’s what I meant. What recovery? His numbers are still where they were. If RCP is to be believed, Romney will win enough delegates tomorrow to get half way to the nomination.
“Newt could be the next Reagan.”
There will never be another Gipper.
Ding! Ding! There is a group of people that keep shifting from candidate to candidate based upon who is perceived as most likely to beat Obama. They just switched back to Romney, or the group that finds him (or Satan) acceptable. Santorum may not fall as far as predicted as many of these gave up on Newt. If Santorum does really well tomorrow, he might even get them back.
Maybe not. But our times needs Newt. History may prove itself.
I don’t agree. The chronology involved is wrong. The anti-capitalist events happened after all the attack ads against Newt in Iowa and before the South Carolina primary. If Newt was going to be hurt by that, it would have been in South Carolina. But he won that primary. So I don’t think that statement from Rush had anything to do with Newt’s problems.
After losing South Carolina, Romney killed Newt in Florida. He spent 17 million dollars in ads lying about Newt day and night. Those lies, plus people’s memory of Newt’s past behavior, have caused his problems. Newt talking about humanely helping illegals also did not help here in our state.
So I don’t believe you can blame Newt’s problems on Rush. Can Newt come back? I hope so. I hope both he and Santorum can take votes away from Romney. I hope they both can come to an agreement on a strategy that can defeat Romney.
How could that be? Newt himself has preached that the era of Reagan is over and that we should not look for another Reagan.
“Newts been portrayed as a grumpy old man “
He is a grumpy old man. He’d be the best president. He can’t win since it’s all cosmetic in now-shallow America. We’re so screwed.
Because the American people are confused and mis-educated. Democracy fails in such a populace.
The anti-capitalist stuff started right around the time of SC and just afterwards. It was too soon to affect SC.
I live in Florida, and this theme was broadcast day and night, quoting Rush and also appearing in national papers, such as the Romney-supporting Wall Street Journal. And they all cited Rush. It was a stupid off-the-top-of-his-head remark, and Rush did back down and say several days later that maybe it was an overstatement and not quite accurate, but the damage was done.
I think Rush’s performance as a whole has declined since his latest wife (#4, I believe). Maybe it’s not fair to blame her, since I don’t know a thing about her. But I have noticed a definite difference in the last few years. He has become more careless in what he says, more of a shock-jock, and also much more sloppy in his research. Maybe this will be good for Rush, just the way the drug thing was, and will be a wake-up call that will make him focus again.
Good news. Newt is surging! Go Newt!
Good news. Newt is surging! Go Newt!
“I think Rushs performance as a whole has declined since his latest wife (#4, I believe).”
True, but I think that the decline started with his hearing loss. I’ve listened to Rush for 22 years and he is not the Rush of the early 1990’s. That Rush endorsed Pat Buchanan as a protest vote against Bush 41. That Rush did his own research instead of just reading what’s on the Drudge Report. By the time Rush is on I’ve already read the Drudge Report, I don’t need Rush to tell me what’s on it.
He and other conservative talk hosts have been especially useless during Republican primaries. By trying to be neutral he does more damage than if he actually endorsed someone.
Thank you for making one of my points. I am not the one that you need to convince. I would suggest a bit more tact if you forward that to the hundreds of thousands that need to be convinced.
Surging?Did He win something?I didnt notice.
I live in Florida too. All that talk started in early January. In fact Rush made the statement around the 10th of January which was nearly two weeks before the South Carolina Primary. So I’d still have to say it had little effect.
By the time the election came here to Florida, all I heard day and night was Newt was thrown out of Congress for dirty deeds. Newt’s not trustworthy. Newt is the first Speaker to leave in disgrace for ethical wrongdoing. Newt and Nancy Pelosi. Newt and Hillary. Newt is a Washington insider. Newt is sleazy. Newt is unethical, erratic, and reckless. Newt was paid $30,000.00 an hour to work for Freddie Mac. The democrats want to face Newt. All lies from the pit where Mitt lives. Newt wants amnesty and Newt says be humane to the illegals.
I saved the information from Mitt and his PACs. I could not find one thing on what Rush said. Maybe it bothered some people. But that is not what Romney concentrated on round the clock when he beat him. I don’t think what Rush said was very much of a factor. Mitt chose plenty of other things to focus on. So I can’t blame Rush.